I never could find it.
Anyone see Penn Plat 5w-20 at a national chain?
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Walmart has it
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2 out of 3 super Wal-Marts around me stock it. What's weird is that the newest of the three don't stock it. They only stock 5w30 & 10w30.
Are you sure you didn't clean them out of it and not telling us?
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only 1 of 4 Wal-Marts have it around me.
I have wanted to try PP in my 2005 focus and may do so with 5w30 PP. Or just use M1 5w20 or syntec 5w20 because they are everywhere.
Advance Auto has it here. As well as the 5-30.
Kragen's....$4.99/qt.
LOL, maybequote:
Originally posted by Blue_Goose:
Are you sure you didn't clean them out of it and not telling us?
Goose
Would it be a bad idea to run PP 5w-30 when the manual calls for 5w-20?
06 Ranger - I don't think so at all. You can run 5-30 with no probs I believe.
Same here with Wal-Mart.
They have it in single quarts and 5 qts.
With a big sticker on the front stating "Meets all requirements for Honda, Ford and Chrysler ".
Take care, Bill
They have it in single quarts and 5 qts.
With a big sticker on the front stating "Meets all requirements for Honda, Ford and Chrysler ".
Take care, Bill
I can find it at Advance Auto here, but it is continuously sold out at the Walmarts. If the motor spec's 5W-20 then start with that. Then blend up to see if there is an improvement in sound, feel, performance, or gas mileage.
Walmart, Napa, Advance Auto around here always have it. Walmart is the cheapest price (before rebates.
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I'm with Accord on this. For a good bit of the operation, they look the same to the engine ..just not at the same time in the warm up process.
That is, your 5w-20 in NO looks like a 5w-40 (maybe even a 5w-50
I haven't done the math with the visc calculator ..but it probably makes less then a 15-20F difference (shift) in the resulting visc (if you see what I'm saying).
I'll have to disagree with this since the "core" engine parts that aren't cooled by the water jacket warm up more than the exterior parts like the block. This temperature differential partially takes up the clearances to compensate for the thinning of the oil. So 5W-30 will be wrong for a 5W-20 engine under most all operating conditions.
I'm saying that the engine will be tighter at 200F than at 180F, so the 5W-20 at 180F will work better in the engine than the 5W-30 at 200F if the engine is indeed designed for 5W-20.
Also for example, if the main bearing journal effectively runs 30F hotter than the main bearing bore in summer vs. winter, the clearance will close by about 5/10000" for a 2.5" pin. This will compensate for half a viscosity grade right there.
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How can you say this when the exact same engine can have both oil temps at full warmup depending on their usage at the time? Highway 220F ...stop and go 185F. It's a function of combustion cycles per minute and the ability of the oil to reject heat in losses via the pan (or whatever).
So? It's all relative. It will compensate for one half of a viscity grade even if the span is within a viscosity grade (span the same number of centerstrokes). Your point?
Now keep in mind that I fully support the use of the newest evolutions in 20 weight oils. I use them in engines that were never spec'd for them. Most were using 20 weight oils when they used 30 weight oils over a certain legnth of time.
but there is just no way, given the vast range of operating conditions that engines are subjected to, that you can say that a 30 weight is going to do anything negitive in the form of protection in a vast array of circumstances since the span of operations make both look like the other in a good bit of operation.
If this was so ..then Canadian drivers would be destroying their rides ..or those in Texas ..both are on opposite sides of the temp scale and 100's of thousands operate their vehicles for the same duration in the same length commute ..
and both last for over 100k/160km without difficulty. How is that possible in your view??
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