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We always hear about people complaining about the price of gas. Then answer me this one.
I noticed over the last few days while out on the interstates I keep getting passed by a majority of the other drivers. Why I noticed it is because I'm usually driving 65 mph which is 10 over the limit in the right lane. Even then I'm trying to keep up with the other lolly gaging drivers.
I thought gas was so expensive that we can't afford to fill our gas tank. Then why are you passing me when I'm already driving 10 over the limit?

I guess Gas at $3 a gallon isn't that expensive to the average driver. People must enjoy useless belly aching over the issue.
 
Exactly. Compared to other expenses, the cost of gas still isn't such a burden for an average person. People still keep buying and driving large SUVs and trucks.

Speeding still takes place because the recognition that "higher speed" = "higher fuel consumption" is not immediate. It only hits you after you go to the pump. Maybe people would notice it more if there was a huge blinking display or gauge in the dashboard showing current mpg, but even then, I don't think it'd help much. My previous car had it, and honestly, it wasn't taming my led foot much. I didn't buy that car to drive it like a grandma. I was aware that spirited driving costs money. Premium grade, too.
 
Because of responses something to the tune of this:

"Becasue we are exercising our rights to excessively consume and exercising our social freedom to be socially irresponsible. Frankly its none of your business if we can or cant afford $3 gas, and how much money we have in our retirement account... or how much of a mortgage we have, or how much credit card debt we have - so stop it.

We're Americans, so we can comsume, not be able to afford it, and then complain abut the costs being unfair, all the while doing it to ourselves - its our right."

OK, now that I got out, I have been trained all along to watch consumption, and to keep the fuel economy high to reduce operating costs. Speed is a major factor and most dont think about it at all - they may think number of cylinders or number of horsepower or vehicle size, but speed is so unapparent, especially the difference that 10 MPH can make in ANY car - large or small..

All the nearly free credit and out of whack real estate prices (partially as a result of the credit) have disconnected a lot of folks from what they really are... which is not rich, which is poor. They should watch the pennies that slip through the grasp as their own doing - but its so much easier to not criticise their driving style, but rather blame big oil, the government, the terrorists, the traders, the hurricanes, or whatever else. Dollar cost of fuel is easily apparent, deltas in prie are apparent, driving style as it relates to consumption and their actual fuel bill is just too much thinking and math... especially if you can just gripe and swipe the credit card - and not have to get to the root of the problem - complaining makes it feel good enough to get by... and if 'griping and swiping' gets too annoying - throw $100 at an oxygen sensor and think that youre all the better.

Couple that with only a very small fraction of people understanding anythng about physics other than that gravity keeps things onthe ground... and the understanding of the factors relating to economy are way to addvanced for their small brains - anything beyond seeing what has last happened with "Bradgolena" or "Vaungniston" or Jessica Simpson or Paris Hilton and fulfilment of illusions of money and grandor are just too much in terms of brain exercise and thinking for them...

Kids that havent even graduated high school can have amazing grasp of some of this stuff, and adults professionally employed with college degrees can be so dense it isnt funny. In the end, it comes down to how much brainpower and consideration you care to employ.

JMH

[ July 22, 2006, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: JHZR2 ]
 
It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.

With 4-6 speed overdrive automatics, torquey low-revving 6 and 8 cylinder motors, tons of sound insulation, most cars are pretty boring even at 65.

Plus a lot of people are hardwired in the head that they always have to be passing people. I actually think this is an evolved lazy driving "skill", because then you can keep track of everyone in your windshield and ignore the rearview mirrors.
 
Does that mean doing 210 KM/H on the autobahn was a bad thing?
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I'm sorry I just can't keep the smile off my face...

By the way, gas was about $6 - $7 a gallon in Europe and not too many people were driving THAT slowly so don't be TOO hard on us Americans, wasteful though we are.
 
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Originally posted by eljefino:
It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.

ain't that the truth.

The slowest cars that I've owned could be flogged mercilesly without raising an eyebrow from the authorities.

The hottest cars I've owned drew roadside trouble even operating below the speed limit.
 
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It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.

It's true, especially if you sit so low you're close to the ground! My first own car was a decrepit old VW Scirocco with a 1.8 liter, 85 hp four-banger. That car weighed in at under 800 kilos with a full tank. Sound insulation was non-existant -- I removed it. Top speed was only a meager 175 km/h (109 mph), but it felt much faster. And for blasting down winding rural roads, the fun factor was nearly impossible to beat -- well except maybe with an Opel Manta or a Ford Capri, but those were my enemies.
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I drive over the speed limit about 10MPH max.

However the only people I think are funny passing me are the hybrids. Why bother paying extra for an underpowered car and then driving its one strong point of mileage down the tubes.
 
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Originally posted by rjundi:
I drive over the speed limit about 10MPH max.

However the only people I think are funny passing me are the hybrids. Why bother paying extra for an underpowered car and then driving its one strong point of mileage down the tubes.


Same and same!!!

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JMH
 
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Originally posted by rjundi:
However the only people I think are funny passing me are the hybrids.

That certainly is funny. I haven't seen that yet because we don't have too many around here.
 
Well aerodynamics is more important at 80 than 55. Of course, if there is nothing in the bed to fall out, why are they driving a truck?
 
Everyone want's a quick and easy solution, no one wants to change their ways. That's why snake oil products still fly off the shelves.
 
People may or may not notice the fuel economy difference by driving slower, but what they do notice is the time they waste by doing so. On a short trip it hardly matters, but on a 3 hour or a 10 hour trip adding 25% to your travel time is significant. I can buy more fuel, even at $3 a gallon. But I can't buy back the time no matter how wealthy I am.

So until the flying cars we were promised show up, I'll probably keep driving 70-80mph on the highways where it's safe to do so. That I'm able to do that with little expense and effort is something I consider to be a reward for living in a modern technologically advanced society. Compared to even 50 years ago, I call that progress. I'm still trying to understand why some people want us to regress to where we travel like 3rd world peasants and at the same time want to call that "progressive."
 
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Originally posted by moribundman:

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It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.

It's true, especially if you sit so low you're close to the ground! My first own car was a decrepit old VW Scirocco with a 1.8 liter, 85 hp four-banger. That car weighed in at under 800 kilos with a full tank. Sound insulation was non-existant -- I removed it. Top speed was only a meager 175 km/h (109 mph), but it felt much faster. And for blasting down winding rural roads, the fun factor was nearly impossible to beat -- well except maybe with an Opel Manta or a Ford Capri, but those were my enemies.
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Ha! I used to have both a Capri and a Scirocco, before I got my Mustang Mach 1.
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BTW Going fast in Cherokee is interesting.
 
As I have said many times. The more people waste, the better it is. More wast means that there will be fewer vehicle miles and less traffic and less wear on roads. If all vehicles got 100 miles per gallon there would be way you could drive anywhere. So really I favor gas guzzling SUV's.
 
Jsharp, you are right. Figure the dollars per hour you save by driving slower. Divide by the number of people in the car. Compare to the minimum wage. Yeah, right.

Save both time and money. Plan ahead and make fewer trips.

We will be on the road this weekend. We will have 4 adults and 2 dogs in our daughter's Civic hybrid. Did the same trip last year. It won't be that comfortable, but with gas at $3 a gallon, we will save a bundle. It will give us a nice visit with the kids. The dogs will be disappointed they have to sit on the floor and be good.
 
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