I got a little over 17,000 miles on my ultra and i am heading for 20,000.
I usually go for the ultra because of the specs on filtering and the fact that you all go ga ga over it lol. I’ll try the extra guard this next go round. I miss the days when I didn’t overthink things like this. I think I’ll start running extra guard on cars without maintenance minders and the ultra on ones withAny reason? Consider this ...
- The XGs are generally rated at 99+% efficient; rated 20k miles
- The TGs are generally rated at 99% efficient; rated 15k miles
- The EGs are generally rated at 95% efficient; rated 10k miles
ANY of those filter are far more capable of the task you propose (5k miles).
NONE of those filters are going to be able to produce a result you'd be able to differentiate IN THE REAL WORLD. You will never be able to produce a filtration effect that your engine will see any real difference in cleanliness or wear rates between those three. The capacity of all three is more than you intend to use them for, and even the EG is rated for 2x what you will do. The efffiency of all three are so good that you'll never see any wear rate difference you can truly prove (not theory BS, but really show tangible results).
A "tad overkill" you say? No, sir, that's a massive waste of money that will never give you any discernable ROI. So why pay for a grossly under-utilized XG, when even the EG would be under-utilized?
Seems to me that your mind is already made up and you just want some manner of adulterized authorization to reaffirm your choice. So here it comes:
Do what you want; get the XG. There's nothing wrong with stuff that makes you feel good, as long as you're honest with yourself. Just don't try to convince us that it's a smart decision, because there's no proof it would be so.
I am unconvinced that using a premium will actually be of any advantage , I have never viewed a report on a million mile vehicle that used premium oil filters.I remain unconvinced it is any better than a TG... but aside from the cost, no there isn't any reason you can't run it 5000.
How many of those million-mile vehicles haven’t had at least one engine rebuild? I mean over gotten my old Sienna to nearly 500K but there’s no way the engine would make it to a million.I am unconvinced that using a premium will actually be of any advantage , I have never viewed a report on a million mile vehicle that used premium oil filters.
Can't speak for all of them, but I'll bet fewer than you'd think.How many of those million-mile vehicles haven’t had at least one engine rebuild? I mean over gotten my old Sienna to nearly 500K but there’s no way the engine would make it to a million.
How do you know it wouldn't have been in better shape (less wear, better compression, etc) at 1M miles if it would have used premium filters and oil instead?I am unconvinced that using a premium will actually be of any advantage , I have never viewed a report on a million mile vehicle that used premium oil filters.
How many of those million-mile vehicles haven’t had at least one engine rebuild? I mean over gotten my old Sienna to nearly 500K but there’s no way the engine would make it to a million.
I don't. I can't say it would or wouldn't. If your OCI control point was 5k miles, I'd say there would be very little difference. If your OCI point was 15k miles, there might be a significant difference. Simply put, there is way too little data for us to know one way or another. But the point is that normal everyday oils and filters are far, far more capable than most BITOGers would give them credit for; there are plenty of examples that conventional oil and filters can get vehicles to 1M miles.How do you know it wouldn't have been in better shape (less wear, better compression, etc) at 1M miles if it would have used premium filters and oil instead?
I am unconvinced that using a premium will actually be of any advantage , …
Yes, it has been said before that the shorter the OCI, the less important the filter becomes. If the OCI was 1000 miles or less there might not even be a need for an oil filter once the engine is totally broken in.I don't. I can't say it would or wouldn't. If your OCI control point was 5k miles, I'd say there would be very little difference. If your OCI point was 15k miles, there might be a significant difference. Simply put, there is way too little data for us to know one way or another. But the point is that normal everyday oils and filters are far, far more capable than most BITOGers would give them credit for; there are plenty of examples that conventional oil and filters can get vehicles to 1M miles.
But at 1M miles, does it really matter? How many people brag about their compression at 100k, 300k, 1M? How many people worry about fuel consumption when having 250k or 500k miles on a vehicle? They are far ahead of the $$$ game just milking every mile out of the car/truck/van.
BITOGers are, by nature, OCD about these things; if we were completely honest with outselves, we all would admit that. But we need to remember there is more than one road to the same destination. You either filter out contamination, or you flush out contamination. Once a sump is "clean enough" to sustain low wear, making it "cleaner" does not return much on your investment. High-mileage vehicles are not the exclusive domain of syns/filters. You can just as easily get there with normal jobber stuff.
Wait ... Be more specific; are we talking run-of-the-mill McDs, or a gourmet 1/2 lb of black angus infused with blue-cheese and roasted onions?I like high efficiency oil filters simply because they keep the oil cleaner, which IMO isn't a bad thing even if the OCI isn't very long. All it costs me is one less hamburger a year.
Even just a Big Mac is enough to make up the difference in price. A big gourmet burger will be enough difference for 2 or 3 better filters per year.Wait ... Be more specific; are we talking run-of-the-mill McDs, or a gourmet 1/2 lb of black angus infused with blue-cheese and roasted onions?
Maybe if I strech the FCI to 3x and use a jobber filter ... Hmmmm ... Mmmmm!