Any market interest in a 5qt jug hose? My prototype

[Kurtatron]

I don’t know if I should bother to go through the hassle to bring something like this to market. I’m looking for a leak proof way to fill a car. I don’t like the funnels because they don’t deal with glugs. I find glugging makes it harder to avoid drips. My prototype worked ok, but I found the breather hose doesn’t work very well. My finger is over the breather hose. It spilled out oil, so I had to cover it with my finger. I’d need to make a single hose that both breathes and pours.

But all in all this pours oil faster than without, because I can squeeze the bottle to really get things pouring. I like the idea. Think there’s a market for this?

I could not find one of these for a 5 qt bottle, only 1 qt bottle on Amazon.

 

[JavierH19]

This one is for quart and gallon bottles. It's sold in stores at walmart, Maybe try one to see if it fits jugs.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-To...["In-store"]}]&classType=REGULAR&from=/search

 

[4WD]

I glue a clear hose to a new gear oil cap - use & move to the next bottle

 

[fsdork]

Personally, I'll deal with managing glugs over residual oil in a long-ish tube. Perhaps it would make sense for someone using it frequently enough that having a system to manage drain-back would be worthwhile.

 

[Rand]

you need to keep the hose short and put a hose in a hose.. how gas cans breathe
however the oil being much thicker venting is a bigger issue
Unless I'm doing gear oil under a car a funnel is fast and effective
I even use one with a mesh on it to catch anything(bit of foil seal etc)
and still only pouring oil for 2-3min max-- faster in summer.

 

[GSCJR]

I don’t like the funnels because they don’t deal with glugs. I find glugging makes it harder to avoid drips.

Pour with the jug sideways; no glugs. Further, by doing it this way, you can get the jug opening very close to the intended target (engine or graduated cylinder), before oil begins to flow out of the jug.

 

[TomYoung]

I think that working on getting the flow right from the bottle, getting your technique down, with a properly designed and adequately sized funnel, is the gentleman's solution to the problem. I acknowledge the fill hole's unfortunate closeness to the firewall in this situation, but still advocate a "glug-free" technique.

Your product idea does exist and is a great go-to for filling differentials and trans fluid, transfer cases, etc.

 

[TomYoung]

you need to keep the hose short and put a hose in a hose.. how gas cans breathe
however the oil being much thicker venting is a bigger issue
Unless I'm doing gear oil under a car a funnel is fast and effective
I even use one with a mesh on it to catch anything(bit of foil seal etc)
and still only pouring oil for 2-3min max-- faster in summer.

"hose in a hose"; "how gas cans breathe".... What are you talking about?

 

[dnewton3]

Further, not all 5 qt jugs have the same size opening or thread pitch. I know this because I've occasionally tried to put one cap on a different jug and found they don't match.

 

[WobblyElvis]

This kind of jug and spout/tap would get my vote.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tide-Plu...2-fl-oz-94-loads/5060306694?classType=REGULAR

 

[Kurtatron]

honestly I am sort of satisfied that you think there’s not market potential. I am not much of an entrepreneur.

 

[Kurtatron]

you need to keep the hose short and put a hose in a hose.. how gas cans breathe
however the oil being much thicker venting is a bigger issue
Unless I'm doing gear oil under a car a funnel is fast and effective
I even use one with a mesh on it to catch anything(bit of foil seal etc)
and still only pouring oil for 2-3min max-- faster in summer.

Right but another issue I’ve had with funnels, is the base of the funnel either butts up against the opening or baffle of some sort, causing leaks. My 3mz-fe is like that. Hardly any room for a funnel. In this case, I prefer a tube concept.

 

[Rand]

"hose in a hose"; "how gas cans breathe".... What are you talking about?

So if you have one of those nifty carb gas cans not the good type it looks like this

If you have a hose attached to the threads on a 5qt bottle it has to be able to vent. This type of vent however doesn't work as good on more vicious fluids.
and you cant just poke a hole in the 5qt jug because presumably you will need it to recycle the used oil.

The best answer is just using a proper pouring technique with a funnel... IMO. no gizmos needed.

The other issue as brought up is the fact that oil jug lids arent standardized .

 

[RyanY]

IME Valvoline jugs don't glug even if holding the jug straight up. So far I haven't found any other brands to be as glug-free, and they have to be tilted to the side. And Valvoline is good oil, albeit foreign-owned (just like Tesla).

For the issue of the baffle (inside the oil port) preventing funnel entry, a workaround is to get a universal funnel like the one at harbor freight. This set includes screw on adapters for most makes.

 

[D60]

So if you have one of those nifty carb gas cans not the good type it looks like this
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If you have a hose attached to the threads on a 5qt bottle it has to be able to vent. This type of vent however doesn't work as good on more vicious fluids.
and you cant just poke a hole in the 5qt jug because presumably you will need it to recycle the used oil.

The best answer is just using a proper pouring technique with a funnel... IMO. no gizmos needed.

The other issue as brought up is the fact that oil jug lids arent standardized .

I like the funnels that have a threaded cap top and bottom. Perfect to store in an engine bay because it's sealed.

I also carry a plastic long neck funnel for filling most any gas tank from any style gas container. No gimmicks, straightforward, but yeah, you gotta keep the funnel someplace and make sure you have it.

For the OP, does Lisle offer a funnel that clips into your valve cover like the filler cap?

 

[daniel327]

I use a screw in funnel from Temu (no chance of spills) and a 5 litre (5.28qts) graduated jug from a farm supply store to measure my oil volume prior to filling the engine.

When pouring from oil bottle to jug, I turn the bottle to the side (just like my grandma taught me) to prevent glugs.

I think op's prototype is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Cool idea, but how do you handle different size 5 quart bottles. There not al the same?

 

[GSCJR]

Right but another issue I’ve had with funnels, is the base of the funnel either butts up against the opening or baffle of some sort, causing leaks. My 3mz-fe is like that. Hardly any room for a funnel. In this case, I prefer a tube concept.

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You need a short neck funnel, I had a 1MZ-FE for many years. I've done so many oil changes in my life, that 99 percent of the time I don't even use a funnel, as previously mentioned, I just pour sideways.

So far I haven't found any other brands to be as glug-free

Castrol seem to have the least amount of glug, you can hear the spout whistle while pouring if you don't pour sideways. At one time IIRC, they promoted a no glug jug or something similar.

 

[eljefino]

I use a screw in funnel from Temu (no chance of spills) and a 5 litre (5.28qts) graduated jug from a farm supply store to measure my oil volume prior to filling the engine.

This is where the money is... even though it's on Temu and therefore impossible to patent.

I use a cutoff Castrol quart bottle as a funnel in my Toyotas, the thread is close but not quite there. Conveniently, the cutoff locks into the plastic cowl piece similar to the one in your first picture.

0w20 oil pours at the right speed out of a wide mouth M1 5 qt bottle into said homemade funnel.

A funnel guaranteed to work for a particular car, perhaps with a stays-clean storage solution, is an untapped market.

 

[RyanY]

A funnel guaranteed to work for a particular car, perhaps with a stays-clean storage solution, is an untapped market.

Untapped? Harbor Freight has one for nearly all models. Of course, car manufacturers could change the fill ports at a moments notice...