I know people that run T6 in motorcycles, they rev the crap out of them without issues. I think Rotella has to be within foaming specs, ????
Very high output / CC, very high RPM, gearbox thrashing the oil and all is fine….I know people that run T6 in motorcycles, they rev the crap out of them without issues. I think Rotella has to be within foaming specs, ????
Guilty as charged. I've often used my own experiences as being a benchmark for success, and therefore, would like to apologize, to the great members of this forum for those foolish responses.3,600RPM? The foaming issue is more relevant to engines operating at twice that, and with MUCH higher power density. These anecdotes of "well, it didn't 'splode my Honda GV160 and I cut lots of grass, so this means the problem doesn't exist" obliterate the necessary nuance that one needs to be aware of to properly understand and qualify the criticisms.
I am unfortunately not surprised that the customer service guy/gal made that recommendation, lol.I sent an email to Pennzoil and asked if they had any oils for a flat tappet sbc race engine, they recommended Rotella t4 15w40 lol. not saying it's right but its kinda funny that they recommended that.
It not passing the foaming spec was what initiated one of the conversations on here. However, it was noted that, with batch-to-batch variation taken into account, it likely, overall, meets the spec. Shell simply isn't putting in the effort (or expense) to make it exceed the requirements of the spec, which, given the price point and intended applications, isn't surprising. VR-1, which was tested at the same time, readily bested the spec, which, given this product's intended applications, also isn't surprising.I know people that run T6 in motorcycles, they rev the crap out of them without issues. I think Rotella has to be within foaming specs, ????
Yeah, VR1 is great for that - and not over priced …I sent an email to Pennzoil and asked if they had any oils for a flat tappet sbc race engine, they recommended Rotella t4 15w40 lol. not saying it's right but its kinda funny that they recommended that.
Where I live - a 1500 is a car - a 2500 is a weekend tow vehicle - and the 350/3500’s are doing the work … Yep, so many diesels that the Mobil 1 Express has a Rotella sign on the front …A certain oil blogger that most of the cool kids on BITOG has blasted as having incompetent methodology in his testing, among other things, consistently ranked Rotella very low in his tests, all while bros were recommending it as a flat tappet oil, Subaru elixir, and motorcycle oil. So there is that. Adds an interesting data point to both controversies in my opinion…
Harks to the "even a broken clock is right twice a day" phrase. I think the criticisms of his methodology are reasonable, the test lacks the resolution necessary to make the sort of granular categorizations he makes. It's not unlike folks trying to bench race oils by observing minute variances in PPM on uncontrolled UOA'sA certain oil blogger that most of the cool kids on BITOG has blasted as having incompetent methodology in his testing, among other things, consistently ranked Rotella very low in his tests, all while bros were recommending it as a flat tappet oil, Subaru elixir, and motorcycle oil. So there is that. Adds an interesting data point to both controversies in my opinion…
Good for colds, moles, and sore, uh, never mindDoesn’t help that some versions have/had little pictures of motorcycles, semi’s, tractors, cars, and trucks right on the bottle. Heck maybe even a chainsaw![]()
I missed this test from HPL. So essentially, the sample hardly passed?HPL apparently tried whisking one & it didn't meet the foaming limits from that single sample. However, Dave stated, while this one didn't pass the test, he surmised the overall average would pass the test. I think Mr Speed is well aware of that but it sounds like you've put in a request for him to do a "Video" on it.
I don't remember exactly as it's been a minute. Thought I saw it in a LSJr video when he visited HPL. I talked to Dave, on the phone, about it a few weeks ago. Rotella passes the Aeration & foaming tests as it's a valid licensed API & OEM oil.I missed this test from HPL. So essentially, the sample hardly passed?
Yes, that’s the oil I tend to use for a somewhat “cheap” well performing oil, vr1 synthetic.Yeah, VR1 is great for that - and not over priced …