Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: XtremeRevolution
This thread confirms why I stopped coming to this forum. Bashing, bashing, and more bashing. Your member joining and responding for the sole purpose of making himself look like an idiot confirmed that yet again. Amazing. Calling me out on what is or isn't a group 3 oil while conveniently ignoring the discussion that led to me moving posts around while forgetting to update the titles. What a crime. I'm surprised he didn't notice that the last update was posted in the thread as 12/17/13 yet the "last updated" date automated by AutoGuide.com was last month. Being a little absent-minded comes with working 4 jobs and raising a 4 month old kid. Most people point out the error instead of creating an entire thread about it.
I will not name names, but I sincerely loathe people who will write someone off entirely due to them being an AMSOIL dealer. Again, this is why I stopped coming here. People will find any reason they can to "pwn" you on the interwebs, and that includes attempting to discredit you with personal attacks instead of facts. I have yet to see any in this thread, and your "representative" did a fine job if I may say so myself.
Pablo, it is ironic because my first AMSOIL purchase was from you. Remmeber? 2 quarts of Synchromesh for a Cruze ECO MT?
Among other sources of testing, most of my information comes from the following:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
Most if not all of the group 3 hydrocracked oils out there will struggle to hit a NOACK volatility of below 10, most likely due to their need for higher levels of pour point depressants and viscosity index additives. Of course, none of you bothered to read the actual discussion, or the fact that I have repeatedly recommended non-AMSOIL products across all of CruzeTalk in my 10,000+ posts there.
Thank you for participating in this circus. How civil of you.
Yep.
He came over and saw us laughing.
You've gotta admit your list is laughable at best. Pennzoil platinum coming in under qsud yet they are almost identical oils.
Any comment there?
And to add my own disclaimer I hate Mobil 1 and everyone here knows it but to put it as a tier 3 oil,and the only tier 3 oil is a total joke.
M1 0w-40 is one of the most certified oils on earth with more performance engine approvals than any other oil,so do these oem's know their oil is a tier 3 product.
I read most of that thread and you sir are a shill,completely and totally.
I'm a fan of amsoil. I like the products and used them exclusively for years until cost became an issue for me.
I feel you are doing the company a dis-service. The oil sells itself in that it's a quality product,without your stupid list.
Thankfully there are professionals such as Pablo selling the stuff because if it was only shills pushing it the company would bankrupt and all these negative comments would be more than just opinion.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
The specs are rather different, but close enough to where I'll just move PP up to the tier 1. If it wasn't made clear to you yet, those were MY recommendations to MY community.
You must have magical powers because you read my mind and understood exactly what constituted a Tier 1, 2, or 3. Yep, you must be God. No, actually you just speculated, and failed to realize that all of these oils were a comparison of 5W-30 weight oils (unless otherwise noted) specifically for the Chevrolet Cruze (the vast majority of which run off of a 1.4L Turbo engine that is rather hard on the oil) and are NOT applicable to any other vehicles.
What made you think I created that list to sell AMSOIL? If I wanted to sell AMSOIL, I'd do so in my own vendor section of the forum way toward the bottom, not in the Powertrain section where I discussed the merits of several options.
This went from annoying to laughable. So much speculation, so many assumptions, and that would be all well and good if people at least requested a shred of clarification.