Amsoil, what are your thoughts?

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: BobFout
They make good stuff. Whether one agrees or not with their distribution method, they still made darn good stuff.


Up here in Bizarro World aka Canada, I've found a store that actually stocks Amsoil. Peavey Mart (home away from home for old [censored] farmers) sells Amsoil along with EaO filters, of all things. How they get the old farmers to go past the 15w-40 HDEO and buy Amsoil, I'll never know.

I'm not sure of the price off hand. Yes, I know that my BITOG membership card risks going on probation for walking by without checking the prices. Then again, this is Canada, and I don't need to have a heart attack in the middle of the oil aisle, either.

 

[webfors]

Good oil. Worth the expense if you extend OCI. As Gary mentioned their tranny/gear lubes are excellent.

 

[HangerHarley]

Their marketing is -HORRIBLE- (Four-ball wear test? Wear Scar? Really? Have you seen the Dandruff video, not scientitic at all, not wiping off platen after test?) And this casts a bad light on the whole company. Some would say their distribution method invites shadyness. Maybe a little bit better than good oils, virtually the same as "Best" OTC Oils, for Engine Oil. Can order online, thats they way to do it if interested.

My take: Never used, however, outside looking in says "Costs too much" and marketing that doesant seem to line up with a great product, its too Sensationalist. Even if AMSOIL isnt Snake Oil.

"Better than Synthetic?"

We need an AMSOIL vs Mobil1.

<---- (I pick Mobil 1. IF my engine stays quiet.)

 

[demarpaint]

I used it for a year, very good oil, not worth the cost unless you extend drains. I also found my engine to be a little quieter after the change from ASM to Edge 0W20, most say the noise doesn't matter, some say silence is golden. If I decide to do extended drains I'd use it again. JMO

I loved the GHD grese, I still have another tube, I was not happy with the Series 2000 grease.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Most of their oils will not officially meet API/ACEA and the accompaning OEM standards because they have chosen not to have their oils tested. So you really have no idea how well the oil will perform for your application. (UOA does not tell you that).

That being said they have been around a long time and if their oils were not up to standards I would no think they'd be around today.

Personally if you're under warranty stick with oils which have OEM approvals.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: webfors
their tranny/gear lubes are excellent.


The best imo. All I`ll ever use.

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: HangerHarley
Their marketing is -HORRIBLE- (Four-ball wear test? Wear Scar? Really? Have you seen the Dandruff video, not scientitic at all, not wiping off platen after test?) And this casts a bad light on the whole company. Some would say their distribution method invites shadyness. Maybe a little bit better than good oils, virtually the same as "Best" OTC Oils, for Engine Oil. Can order online, thats they way to do it if interested.

My take: Never used, however, outside looking in says "Costs too much" and marketing that doesant seem to line up with a great product, its too Sensationalist. Even if AMSOIL isnt Snake Oil.

"Better than Synthetic?"

We need an AMSOIL vs Mobil1.

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Keep in mind they are marketing to the general public that need their psychological needs met and impressive looking numbers do that.

It's not marketed at BITOGers which are a small group. I have however used most of their product line and would stand behind all of their products and claims. They are excellent and worth the cost with shipping IMO.

 

[ottotheclown]

One uoa should not make you stay away from synthetics. Keep in mind the XL line oil is a group three oil. This is one of many, some as good and some alot cheaper.Also longer oci is a big selling point for this oil. Your application might make that point not so important. The good thing it got you asking.

Originally Posted By: wtd
I just found out yesterday that a guy I work with sells Amsoil and has used it for four years. I have never used it but he wants me to try it.

I did a search here and it doesn't seem that many people use it here. Is it too overpriced for what it is or do people not like their marketing?

Years ago I used Mobil 1 and after not very good oil analysis results, I quit using it and all synthetics.

So, what is the consenus on Amsoil? Thanks.

Wayne

 

[Gary Allan]

Quote:
Their marketing is -HORRIBLE- (Four-ball wear test? Wear Scar? Really? Have you seen the Dandruff video, not scientitic at all, not wiping off platen after test?)


Have you seen a crazy Scotsman running around whacking people on the behind with a dipstick?

Ever heard that 90% of all wear occurs at start and insults you without telling you that it means the first 20 minutes of operation?

Ever see a guy at a drive through getting bathed in liquid sludge?

Shall I go on? You see idiocy where you choose and apparently see nothing wrong with being treated like an idiot. They do call it a boob tube for good cause.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Point to GA for that one! Haw!

But as a LONG time user of Amsoil I'd say their products are top notch.

The competition has closed in on some, but they have many that are unique and ultra high quality.

I don't care if I do get whacked with a dipstick, I'm still using some of their stuff!

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Quote:
Their marketing is -HORRIBLE- (Four-ball wear test? Wear Scar? Really? Have you seen the Dandruff video, not scientitic at all, not wiping off platen after test?)


Have you seen a crazy Scotsman running around whacking people on the behind with a dipstick?

Ever heard that 90% of all wear occurs at start and insults you without telling you that it means the first 20 minutes of operation?

Ever see a guy at a drive through getting bathed in liquid sludge?

Shall I go on? You see idiocy where you choose and apparently see nothing wrong with being treated like an idiot. They do call it a boob tube for good cause.
Gary, well said.

 

[tig1]

I used Amsoil engine oil, tranny, and gear oil in the 70s and all were very good for me. When M1 oils came out I switched in 1978 and have used their products ever since. I found M1 to be easier to find back then, but today if you don't mind ordering their oils then you won't be disapointed. With that said , don't expect your engine or tranny to last any longer with Amsoil versus M1 or PP, or even Castrol. I see no real differance in quality from what I read here on BITOG.

 

[HangerHarley]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Quote:
Their marketing is -HORRIBLE- (Four-ball wear test? Wear Scar? Really? Have you seen the Dandruff video, not scientitic at all, not wiping off platen after test?)


Have you seen a crazy Scotsman running around whacking people on the behind with a dipstick?

Ever heard that 90% of all wear occurs at start and insults you without telling you that it means the first 20 minutes of operation?

Ever see a guy at a drive through getting bathed in liquid sludge?

Shall I go on? You see idiocy where you choose and apparently see nothing wrong with being treated like an idiot. They do call it a boob tube for good cause.


Oh, Gary. You are a sharper and more educated knife than I. If only i could let that one go. However, i see a flaw...

Gary. I can buy Castrol Edge, Syntec. GTX, High Miles, or any other Castrol at the store. I can NOT do this with AMSOIL at WM, pep Boys, Autozone, (name a retailer, gary.)

The Scotsman? Sludge? I rather like the one with the Edge bottle as the blow-dryer. here is a link. This isnt it, but my Uncle had a car similar to this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8uzFwpTkw&feature=search (No Sensationalism in it) here is the Hair one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR7JIi_txcQ&feature=search

I cant buy AMSOIL next to this "ridiculous marketing."

So, in a way... the Scotsman, sludge-dunked-at-drive-thru and thought of "it occurs when i turn the key" (which i thought as well) .. wins.

Touche, Gary.

 

[Gary Allan]

Quote:
Oh, Gary. You are a sharper and more educated knife than I. If only i could let that one go. However, i see a flaw... thumbsup

Gary. I can buy Castrol Edge, Syntec. GTX, High Miles, or any other Castrol at the store. I can NOT do this with AMSOIL at WM, pep Boys, Autozone, (name a retailer, gary.)


I don't quite see your point.

That's not a marketing issue.

That's a distribution/vending issue.

 

[HangerHarley]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Quote:
Oh, Gary. You are a sharper and more educated knife than I. If only i could let that one go. However, i see a flaw... thumbsup

Gary. I can buy Castrol Edge, Syntec. GTX, High Miles, or any other Castrol at the store. I can NOT do this with AMSOIL at WM, pep Boys, Autozone, (name a retailer, gary.)


I don't quite see your point.

That's not a marketing issue.

That's a distribution/vending issue.



I was trying to say the marketing of the Scotsman, Sludge in the convertible, etc. makes me -think- of that when i see Edge on the shelf.

When i go in the store, I dont see AMSOIL on the shelf.

In that sense, the "horrible marketing" of Castrol wins.

 

[BobFout]

Originally Posted By: HangerHarley
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Quote:
Oh, Gary. You are a sharper and more educated knife than I. If only i could let that one go. However, i see a flaw... thumbsup

Gary. I can buy Castrol Edge, Syntec. GTX, High Miles, or any other Castrol at the store. I can NOT do this with AMSOIL at WM, pep Boys, Autozone, (name a retailer, gary.)


I don't quite see your point.

That's not a marketing issue.

That's a distribution/vending issue.



I was trying to say the marketing of the Scotsman, Sludge in the convertible, etc. makes me -think- of that when i see Edge on the shelf.

When i go in the store, I dont see AMSOIL on the shelf.

In that sense, the "horrible marketing" of Castrol wins.

What's wrong with your local Amsoil dealer, becoming a PC, or buying from Pablo or Gary?

From the beginning Amsoil has not focused on traditional brick-and-mortar.

 

[HangerHarley]

Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: HangerHarley
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Quote:
Oh, Gary. You are a sharper and more educated knife than I. If only i could let that one go. However, i see a flaw... thumbsup

Gary. I can buy Castrol Edge, Syntec. GTX, High Miles, or any other Castrol at the store. I can NOT do this with AMSOIL at WM, pep Boys, Autozone, (name a retailer, gary.)


I don't quite see your point.

That's not a marketing issue.

That's a distribution/vending issue.



I was trying to say the marketing of the Scotsman, Sludge in the convertible, etc. makes me -think- of that when i see Edge on the shelf.

When i go in the store, I dont see AMSOIL on the shelf.

In that sense, the "horrible marketing" of Castrol wins.

What's wrong with your local Amsoil dealer, becoming a PC, or buying from Pablo or Gary?

From the beginning Amsoil has not focused on traditional brick-and-mortar.


That, I believe, is the fundamental breaking point. My family was always "Well, if it is so good, how come they arent in the stores best product category?" Kinda "Snake Oil" Logic.

I am not saying AMSOIL is bad oil. Only that their "Tests," videos, and statements (old 4-ball weaer tests from 2001, etxc) get ridiculed a great deal.

Im trying to spin it how Castrol marketing, even stupid commercials, make people check out Edge when they go in the store. Whereas they dont see AMSOIL, at all.

They do see a small sampling of Rpyal Purple 5W-30 and 10W-30, though. Adding to the confusion. At Wal-Mart.

 

[StevieC]

So only good products are sold in stores? You can't get anything that is worthwhile privately or through a salesman?

How much "Snake Oil" is on the shelf at Walmart? STP or Lucas additives anyone?

 

[badnews]

Originally Posted By: BobFout
They make good stuff. Whether one agrees or not with their distribution method, they still made darn good stuff.


Yeah, pretty much this

 

[HangerHarley]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
So only good products are sold in stores? You can't get anything that is worthwhile privately or through a salesman?

Sounds snake-oily.

Seems my Family (GM people) are Idiots.

Logic being.. Being in store = sign of reputability?

Ill say again, never said AMSOIL was a bad oil. But why is it marketed like a magic potion?

Do tthey have the Brooklyn Bridge listed on their website too?

This is BITOG banter. All in good fun, my Uncle does use racing catalog but that is for racing, im sure AMSOIL is the same.

Maybe i need to concede defeat on this one, but their tests DO draw ridicule. Shall i try to find the one that says "Tet result: May cause dandruff?"