Amsoil Synthetic Blend Engine Oils

[buster]

The NOACK Test is done at 482 Degrees Fahrenheit, I have a big problem with this test, it is not realistic. I will do the Lawnmower thing; I aimed an Infrared Gun at the Spark Plug area on a Briggs engine and I got a temp reading of 300. I did a temp reading with a probe in the oil fill hole and only got a temp of 210. This is on an Air-cooled Engine with what I am talking about. This is not on a water-cooled engine, let's talk lawnmowers again. I have a neighbor with a Water-Cooled Engine on his mower that only has an oil temp of like 190 whereas with my air-cooled riding mower I have a temp of 220 with the Thermal Probe.

If the HTHS Test can be done at 300, let's do the NOACK Test at a more reasonable Number.

Certain parts of the engine get very hot, like the underside of the piston for example, the ring land areas. Oil is exposed to these parts. So in theory, a less volatile oil will be less likely to burn off and leave deposits in these areas. They're supposed to modify Noack because they were finding it doesn't correlate well with oil consumption, which quite a few people on this site have observed over the years.

 

[JavierH19]

The NOACK Test is done at 482 Degrees Fahrenheit, I have a big problem with this test, it is not realistic. I will do the Lawnmower thing; I aimed an Infrared Gun at the Spark Plug area on a Briggs engine and I got a temp reading of 300. I did a temp reading with a probe in the oil fill hole and only got a temp of 210. This is on an Air-cooled Engine with what I am talking about. This is not on a water-cooled engine, let's talk lawnmowers again. I have a neighbor with a Water-Cooled Engine on his mower that only has an oil temp of like 190 whereas with my air-cooled riding mower I have a temp of 220 with the Thermal Probe.

If the HTHS Test can be done at 300, let's do the NOACK Test at a more reasonable Number.

Hogwash. Heating oil in a coffee carafe on an electric burner is all the s c i e n c e we will ever need....

 

[That John dude]

Any more updates on this oil? Anyone else have UOA on it?

I have a 4,330 mile one I took today and plan on getting shipped tomorrow. 0W20 flavor.

 

[twelve]

Just put it in my 2010 Crown Vic with 153k on it. I ran 2 5k changes with restore and protect and didn’t notice any changes (not that I thought I would) both oil filters were clean. Inside of the engine looks pretty clean from the oil fill hole so I’m guessing the department took care of it with regular changes. I’ll probably run the amsoil from here on out for 5k intervals.

 

[Zee09]

Those Amsoil quart bottles are the best...Very strong and durable...

 

[Pablo]

Those Amsoil quart bottles are the best...Very strong and durable...View attachment 267926

Now you are just buttering the pie no matter how long you slice it

 

[Zee09]

Now you are just buttering the pie no matter how long you slice it

Guess again...

 

[Scuder]

Not being D1G3 is a positive in my book. If your performance standard is D1G3 your bar is pretty low considering some synthetic blends are on the list. I have no skin in the game as I don’t use syn blend and could care less about dexos.

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Companies that sell a lot of oil to GM dealers and lube centers care about Dexos though. Pennzoil Gold came into existence when the Dexos requirement of a synthetic or syn-blend base stock was laid down.
A product was needed that didn't force installers to take a jump in cost from conventional oil to synthetic for their customers needing Dexos spec oil. Gold split the difference. I had one dealer who was looking at a $100,000 annual oil cost increase. We cut that by more than half with Gold. We still lost him to the GM oil program a couple years later.

 

[tired]

Anyone running this? How is it performing for people?

 

[Pablo]

Anyone running this? How is it performing for people?

I have around 12-15 customers running it. I think two have posted used oil analysis. No complaints.

 

[That John dude]

Anyone running this? How is it performing for people?

I just sent in my second sample should know something by the end of the week.

 

[tired]

I have around 12-15 customers running it. I think two have posted used oil analysis. No complaints.

I found a few, for anyone else who comes across this thread with a search like I did.

0W-20 in 2014 GMC Sierra

5w30 in a Tahoe. There's two used oil analysis in this thread. Seems like some cleaning occurred too. I assume due to the ester content. Interesting results.

 

[That John dude]

I found a few, for anyone else who comes across this thread with a search like I did.

0W-20 in 2014 GMC Sierra

5w30 in a Tahoe. There's two used oil analysis in this thread. Seems like some cleaning occurred too. I assume due to the ester content. Interesting results.

Yep the Sierra is me. I have no complaints so far with said oil.

 

[crashz]

I'm trying this in my F250. 5w-30 flavor. After two rounds of Valvoline Restore and Protect with some signs of cleaning evident, I'm current running some STP 5w-30 that I had hanging around the garage. At nearly Supertech prices, I figure its a good deal.

Why the blend for me? Well this truck is on a 3k OCI because of the short trips it makes. So I'll spend the money on boutique oils for the drivetrain, but I feel like any decent engine oil will work because its being replaced relatively soon anyway. If I don't like this for whatever reason, I'll go back to Valvoline Restore and Protect.

 

[tired]

I'm trying this in my F250. 5w-30 flavor. After two rounds of Valvoline Restore and Protect with some signs of cleaning evident, I'm current running some STP 5w-30 that I had hanging around the garage. At nearly Supertech prices, I figure its a good deal.

Why the blend for me? Well this truck is on a 3k OCI because of the short trips it makes. So I'll spend the money on boutique oils for the drivetrain, but I feel like any decent engine oil will work because its being replaced relatively soon anyway. If I don't like this for whatever reason, I'll go back to Valvoline Restore and Protect.

I'm also intrigued by it and considering it for similar reasons. I am going to run Amsoil HM first though.

@Pablo - do we know if it still has the strong ester content? I feel like I saw somewhere that may have changed but can't find it again.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

I don't get the point of an inherently "lesser" product from a brand that has been priding themselves for years as being a cut above. If you're going to run a blend, why not just grab Pennzoil conventional or similar?

 

[Pablo]

I'm also intrigued by it and considering it for similar reasons. I am going to run Amsoil HM first though.

@Pablo - do we know if it still has the strong ester content? I feel like I saw somewhere that may have changed but can't find it again.

There are some esters, not sure about "strong".

 

[tired]

I don't get the point of an inherently "lesser" product from a brand that has been priding themselves for years as being a cut above. If you're going to run a blend, why not just grab Pennzoil conventional or similar?

This one has high ester content for one. And there's trust that Amsoil will only put out a quality product.

 

[nascarnation]

I don't get the point of an inherently "lesser" product from a brand that has been priding themselves for years as being a cut above. If you're going to run a blend, why not just grab Pennzoil conventional or similar?

Same reason that some people will pay 13 bucks for a $1.50 hot dog at the Tesla GigaDiner or $3.65 for a cup of coffee at Starbux. There's a prestige factor attached to the brand name that flows down to even the lower end products of the lineup.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

This one has high ester content for one. And there's trust that Amsoil will only put out a quality product.

It's $33.19 per gallon. This is better than Mobil 1 ESP that costs less to boot?