Amsoil Signature Series & GF-7

[tired]

OK I did. A lot going on. Thanks

5W-30 or ??

I think that would be a good choice!

 

[OVERKILL]

The signature series? As far as I have read, it is ASSUMED to be Group 3,4,5. But I’m just assuming the posts that said they were ultimately assuming.

Not sure if assumptions stack up linearly or if there is some type of logarithmic curve.

We are discussing SS above. See other comments. And AMSOIL has been making Group III-based oils for ages, even back when SS was basically just PAO-based plus Group V.

Similarly, HPL uses Group III in many of their product lines, including the ones they use for the border patrol fleet. It has it place in many lubes, particularly if you aren't trying to blend a 0W-xx.

 

[doverlabs]

We are discussing SS above. See other comments. And AMSOIL has been making Group III-based oils for ages, even back when SS was basically just PAO-based plus Group V.

Similarly, HPL uses Group III in many of their product lines, including the ones they use for the border patrol fleet. It has it place in many lubes, particularly if you aren't trying to blend a 0W-xx.

I know they use G3 in general, but it looks like SS using G3 is an assumption but was also presented as fact. I’ll just go back to waiting for a Voa.

 

[OVERKILL]

I know they use G3 in general, but it looks like SS using G3 is an assumption but was also presented as fact. I’ll just go back to waiting for a Voa.

It's an assumption based on the fact that they call out PAO in the SDS's for some of the grades (it would appear the 0W-xx grades) and don't for others (like 5W-xx and up, where you don't need it). Is this proof positive that they aren't using PAO in the grades with the less stringent Winter grades? No, but it's a reasonable assumption that if they are calling out PAO on the SS 0W-xx grades, the ones they aren't calling it out for is probably because it wasn't used.

 

[tired]

It's an assumption based on the fact that they call out PAO in the SDS's for some of the grades (it would appear the 0W-xx grades) and don't for others (like 5W-xx and up, where you don't need it). Is this proof positive that they aren't using PAO in the grades with the less stringent Winter grades? No, but it's a reasonable assumption that if they are calling out PAO on the SS 0W-xx grades, the ones they aren't calling it out for is probably because it wasn't used.

And there was an EU MSDS that showed GTL in AMSOIL SS.

 

[buster]

As others have said Amsoil has been using III's a lot. In fact in the Gale Banks video Dan Peterson who is the head of their tech department I believe said they like and use IIIs and esters. In reality you could make a mostly III based oil with ester and mPAO as a VII. Just as an example not saying they are.

Just keep in mind base oil blends can be complex and a mix/combination of many different base oils. That's been the game for quite some time.

The worst thing you can do is like an oil because it strictly uses one type of base oil. Don't get caught up in that.

"Regularly in some products" - per video (9:50)

"we do use base oils for sure in this group V area"

Amsoil has been known to like "proprietary" esters.

 

[tired]

Amsoil has been known to like "proprietary" esters.

What are these? Made by someone at their request?

Good memory on that video. I had seen it before but didn’t remember that quote.