Amsoil Signature okay for 15k hard use?

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Order it from Pablo here. He's a site sponsor and will take good care of you.

Is Pablo allowed to ship to another country? I remember a while back Amsoil got strict on the whole international distribution thing...


I'm not 100% certain however I am sure it can be ordered from him, then he would have to make the shipping arrangements.
The oil itself would likely come from a Canadian warehouse, in Edmonton iirc. It would get shipped from there to Canadian addresses.
Basically Pablo would get paid then he'd have to contact the Canadian warehouse to ship,then he'd have to pay the Canadian warehouse to then have it shipped to a Canadian address.
I don't think the oil would come from an American warehouse to a Canadian address. But I cannot say for sure. I'm just making an educated guess.

 

[Quattro Pete]

If it ships from the Canadian warehouse, then the higher Canadian prices would apply.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: TrevorS
Why accuse him of going off the deep end? dermapaint had a varnish issue with 3k mile intervals on (quality?) dino.

Sounds like the issue was with his engine and not the oil or the interval.


Hi Pete: I see one of our members might be suffering from dyslexia, mixing up letters in my user name.

Anyway the engine is mechanically sound, in fact Trav can back me up on that one he and I worked on the car together. I have every invoice for work done on that car from day one, my father owned it. The issue we believe was the severe service intervals and dino oil just not cutting it, in that application. For the record it was heavy varnish, no sludge.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
If it ships from the Canadian warehouse, then the higher Canadian prices would apply.


You're likely right. I haven't bought amsoil for a couple of years,well not from my PC account anyways.

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: TrevorS
Why accuse him of going off the deep end? dermapaint had a varnish issue with 3k mile intervals on (quality?) dino.

Sounds like the issue was with his engine and not the oil or the interval.


Hi Pete: I see one of our members might be suffering from dyslexia, mixing up letters in my user name.

Anyway the engine is mechanically sound, in fact Trav can back me up on that one he and I worked on the car together. I have every invoice for work done on that car from day one, my father owned it. The issue we believe was the severe service intervals and dino oil just not cutting it, in that application. For the record it was heavy varnish, no sludge.



Yes i worked on this car doing a transmission mod no one local was willing to do as well as giving the whole car a once over. Frank wanted my opinion before committing to keeping the car long term.
We went through all the receipts his dad kept for this cars maintenance to decide what we will need to do short/long term. Frank is telling the truth.

I experienced similar varnish issues on these engines in other vehicles with 3K dino OCI.
Some engines are just harder on oil when subjected to severe service, its really that simple.

I know Frank over 5 yrs now, the man doesn't lie. He uses the products he says he uses and get the results he says he gets.
If Frank tells me something is black and white i don't need to drive to Long Island (i have done) i know he is telling me like it is.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: Trav
I experienced similar varnish issues on these engines in other vehicles with 3K dino OCI.
Some engines are just harder on oil when subjected to severe service, its really that simple.

OK. For the record, I wasn't questioning what demarpaint wrote. Merkava came in making claims (as always) that extended 10k/15k intervals cause varnish. Then someone brought in demarpaint's case. But in his case, extended drains have nothing to do with it. His engine is hard on oil (as both you and I noted), so that even short intervals will result in varnish.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: TrevorS
Why accuse him of going off the deep end? dermapaint had a varnish issue with 3k mile intervals on (quality?) dino.

Sounds like the issue was with his engine and not the oil or the interval.


Hi Pete: I see one of our members might be suffering from dyslexia, mixing up letters in my user name.

Anyway the engine is mechanically sound, in fact Trav can back me up on that one he and I worked on the car together. I have every invoice for work done on that car from day one, my father owned it. The issue we believe was the severe service intervals and dino oil just not cutting it, in that application. For the record it was heavy varnish, no sludge.



Yes i worked on this car doing a transmission mod no one local was willing to do as well as giving the whole car a once over. Frank wanted my opinion before committing to keeping the car long term.
We went through all the receipts his dad kept for this cars maintenance to decide what we will need to do short/long term. Frank is telling the truth.

I experienced similar varnish issues on these engines in other vehicles with 3K dino OCI.
Some engines are just harder on oil when subjected to severe service, its really that simple.

I know Frank over 5 yrs now, the man doesn't lie. He uses the products he says he uses and get the results he says he gets.
If Frank tells me something is black and white i don't need to drive to Long Island (i have done) i know he is telling me like it is.


Thanks Trav-I wonder why my car got dragged into this? I made no mention of it in this thread prior to seeing it be mentioned. I don't recall going over the deep end either. The shallow end maybe. LOL

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Trav
I experienced similar varnish issues on these engines in other vehicles with 3K dino OCI.
Some engines are just harder on oil when subjected to severe service, its really that simple.

OK. For the record, I wasn't questioning what demarpaint wrote. Merkava came in making claims (as always) that extended 10k/15k intervals cause varnish. Then someone brought in demarpaint's case. But in his case, extended drains have nothing to do with it. His engine is hard on oil (as both you and I noted), so that even short intervals will result in varnish.




Bahahaha.
Awesome Quattro Pete.
That's gold right there.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Trav
I experienced similar varnish issues on these engines in other vehicles with 3K dino OCI.
Some engines are just harder on oil when subjected to severe service, its really that simple.

OK. For the record, I wasn't questioning what demarpaint wrote. Merkava came in making claims (as always) that extended 10k/15k intervals cause varnish. Then someone brought in demarpaint's case. But in his case, extended drains have nothing to do with it. His engine is hard on oil (as both you and I noted), so that even short intervals will result in varnish.



Which is why I'm using synthetic in it now, even though the usage pattern has changed somewhat for the better.

You're right, extended drains had absolutely nothing to do with it in my case, and in all fairness it never saw a drop of synthetic oil until I took it from my father. I'd venture to say had my dad used synthetic oil we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[drolds]

The extended OCI is fine using 15k miles for the Amsoil signature series. One word of caution, keep the OCI to about 15k miles if you have ethanol in the fuel (E10). If you are running pure gas, you can go longer, say 20k miles. I have a friend(master ASE tech)up in IA who has verified just how bad E10 gas can be by acidifying the oil w/ UOA. For petroleum oil, keep the change interval to about 4,200 miles or so. My friend said most other synthetics fall in-between for intervals. Those using the regular 100% gas can go longer on the OCI. Pure gas is available in IA, but not much choice here in KS or MO.
On the Fram filters, I would use about five to achive the 15k mile OCI; Amsoil filter, one. You could use two with either the Purolator Pure One or the Wix premium filter and manage the 15k OCI by changing at the halfway point.

Dr. Olds
1994 Dodge Intrepid ES Amsoil 10W-30 SS 206000 miles, no problems.

 

[MobilinHyundia]

I'm doing 15000miles (24000km) oci on both my Hyundai Sonatas now. I took off their valve covers...took many pictures of the condition of the cams....general condion of the cylinder heads.

My cars will do their 15000miles in one year. Afterwards at the end (15k miles) I will take pictures again with UOA of both engines and post the results here for all to see.

 

[Mystic]

Don't feel bad demarpaint. That particular member has used at least two different user names for me besides the correct one. He has put me down as @Mystic and Mystick. I don't know what might be going on with him.

Maybe he will see this post and realize that my user name is Mystic. And get it correct just like I can get his correct.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: drolds
The extended OCI is fine using 15k miles for the Amsoil signature series. One word of caution, keep the OCI to about 15k miles if you have ethanol in the fuel (E10). If you are running pure gas, you can go longer, say 20k miles. I have a friend(master ASE tech)up in IA who has verified just how bad E10 gas can be by acidifying the oil w/ UOA. For petroleum oil, keep the change interval to about 4,200 miles or so. My friend said most other synthetics fall in-between for intervals. Those using the regular 100% gas can go longer on the OCI. Pure gas is available in IA, but not much choice here in KS or MO.
On the Fram filters, I would use about five to achive the 15k mile OCI; Amsoil filter, one. You could use two with either the Purolator Pure One or the Wix premium filter and manage the 15k OCI by changing at the halfway point.

Dr. Olds
1994 Dodge Intrepid ES Amsoil 10W-30 SS 206000 miles, no problems.



5 oil filters to get to 15000 miles. Apparently you've never heard of the fram ultra oil filter.
It's the one rated for 15000 miles.

 

[Nayov]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
It would probably be full of varnish at the end of 15,000 miles.

When oils start drying out from extended mileage, they start varnishing the engine.


How do oils "dry out"? Someone help me out here.

 

[TrevorS]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Don't feel bad demarpaint. That particular member has used at least two different user names for me besides the correct one. He has put me down as @Mystic and Mystick. I don't know what might be going on with him.

Maybe he will see this post and realize that my user name is Mystic. And get it correct just like I can get his correct.


No one should feel bad when an autocorrect goes wrong.

After all, it's not only me that it's happened to:

Misspelling examples

In any case, I apologize for any upset caused by my misspelling.

 

[HangFire]

Originally Posted By: Nayov
How do oils "dry out"? Someone help me out here.


Simply put the organic volatiles boil or evaporate off. As oil shears down more volatiles are created.

The NOACK test measures this and is really quite simple, a given quantity of oil is heated for a specified period of time and then the remaining weight is compared to the start weight.