Amsoil Production

[buster]

Amsoil has come a long way IMO. They now have a dedicated engine lab to do a lot of in-house testing. This video is pretty good too. I've been a vocal critic of Amsoil in the past, but they've done a nice job and have only gotten better over the years.

Valvoline is another - they can run every API industry standard test in their own lab like XOM.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Amsoil Severe Gear is the only fluid that’ll ever go into 300ZX’s rear differential. Amsoil Severe Gear 75W-110.

 

[The Critic]

like most others amsoil is a blender buying the ingredients from whoever at a price they prefer then blending it together, like a cake baker!!!

Exactly. And so are most brands, but most customers do not realize this. The additive suppliers are the ones who really drive innovation in the marketplace, not the blenders.

Then add a ton of advertising, a overly high price point and strange Amway type marketing technique. Say, Amway, Amsoil?

I have a feeling that their prices would be a lot more competitive if they produced at larger volumes. But maybe they don't want to? I do think their distribution model is a bit dated by modern standards and may be preventing them from achieving growth.

 

[kschachn]

I have a feeling that their prices would be a lot more competitive if they produced at larger volumes. But maybe they don't want to? I do think their distribution model is a bit dated by modern standards and may be preventing them from achieving growth.

What company doesn’t want increased sales and subsequent profit? That makes no sense to me.

 

[buster]

Listen to what he says at the .30 second - 1 minute mark in the video I posted above. He's denying they just blend. The truth is though the additive companies are where the real know how is.

 

[The Critic]

What company doesn’t want increased sales and subsequent profit? That makes no sense to me.

Some smaller businesses seem to resist growth. Just look at your small mom and pop businesses that are overflowing with customers out the front door and refuse to open a second location. Maybe Amsoil retained that mindset?

 

[MolaKule]

like most others amsoil is a blender buying the ingredients from whoever at a price they prefer then blending it together, like a cake baker!!!

Well, not exactly.

An oil blender with advanced chemical and mechanical labs, especially blenders such as HPL and Amsoil, will take a commercial DI package and add some of their own chemistry to the DI package to make the resultant mix conform to their own internal standards.

So it is not a cake mix by any means.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

I swear I’m about ready to start using Amsoil due to the amount of goofy and unsubstantiated irrational posts against it.

I might follow your lead!

Seriously, what is up with this thread.

 

[The Critic]

Well, not exactly.

An oil blender with advanced chemical and mechanical labs, especially blenders such as HPL and Amsoil, will take a commercial DI package and add some of their own chemistry to the DI package to make the resultant mix conform to their own internal standards.

So it is not a cake mix by any means.

Under those circumstances, would the blender be responsible for re-validating the performance of this blend to ensure that it still meets API and/or any OEM performance standards?

 

[tolian21]

Why some people are so touchy in feelings when you say something bad about Amsoil?

 

[PimTac]

Why some people are so touchy in feelings when you say something bad about Amsoil?

If you have something bad to say about any product then that should be backed up with substance and not conjecture.

 

[tolian21]

If you have something bad to say about any product then that should be backed up with substance and not conjecture.

A lot of things said here have conjecture because there is no definite proof for anything if you start digging deep in any product. I just noticed some sensitivity when it comes to Amsoil.

 

[buster]

Well, not exactly.

An oil blender with advanced chemical and mechanical labs, especially blenders such as HPL and Amsoil, will take a commercial DI package and add some of their own chemistry to the DI package to make the resultant mix conform to their own internal standards.

So it is not a cake mix by any means.

Thanks Mola I was wondering that.

 

[MolaKule]

Under those circumstances, would the blender be responsible for re-validating the performance of this blend to ensure that it still meets API and/or any OEM performance standards?

Yes, and they do.

 

[Kuato]

Under those circumstances, would the blender be responsible for re-validating the performance of this blend to ensure that it still meets API and/or any OEM performance standards?

Yes, and they do.

My understanding is that this is one of the reasons Amsoil doesn't chase certifications - every time they tweak their formulation they'd have to recertify.

 

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

It work$

Why some people are so touchy in feelings when you say something bad about Amsoil?

I would defend and feel the same about Valvoline or brand x. The attacks and mud slinging of folks who prefer a different product make no sense.?

 

[tolian21]

I would defend and feel the same about Valvoline or brand x. The attacks and mud slinging of folks who prefer a different product make no sense.?

At the end of the day we are talking about oils, not about human beings, I dont see why we need to get defensive and sensitive.

 

[BHopkins]

The cleanliness and well maintained condition of the operation was something that I did not expect. Somehow, in my mind I had pictured the oil industry as being a lot more dirty. Just the nature of the beast. But this was very clean and organized.

I noticed a few things that aren't up to the Lean Manufacturing and 5S standards that I am accustomed to, but overall I was impressed.

The Amsoil rep implied that the empty bottles are individually weighed and tared for bottle fill weight. If true, that's impressive.

I don't get the HATE for Amsoil. Its a freaking product. So what if they had Dealers etc... . . .

. . . I totally agree there are many oils today as good or similar to Amsoil. Do you hate the guy who drinks a different beer than you? Let it go or be miserable.

I believe that is the key to the hate right there. Unlike what you said, so many others make statements to suggest that Amsoil is so far superior to all other products that it is in a class by itself. Some even leave the suggestion that anyone who is using any product other than Amsoil is just plain stupid. I believe those sort of comments create the hate.

It is good to see someone acknowledge that Amsoil offers good motor oils, just like many of their competitors.

 

[rob1715]

Not hiding the fact. Is there something untrue in my post?

Discuss the video.? Go after Amsoil?

You kinda had a choice.

Do I like Banks? He bugs me. But that's just me.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

A lot of things said here have conjecture because there is no definite proof for anything if you start digging deep in any product. I just noticed some sensitivity when it comes to Amsoil.

The typical engagement occurs something like this. Person A reads some Amsoil publications and may/may not become a distributor. Person A then finds themselves on BITOG where he/she have a desire to share their new to them information and most importantly their enthusiasm. Claims will be questioned and Person A takes it personally because the questions to some degree reflect on his/her own judgement and nobody likes to be told they are a "sucker".