Amsoil- I got my arm twisted into trying it

[rrounds]

Come on guys he's on a VTX-1800, it's water cooled and easy on oil.
I had one back in '04 and it was easy on oil(temp wise) the transmission would shear down the oil in 3 to 3.5k miles on 10/40 Honda motorcycle oil. I went with Delo 15w40 back then and that oil was good for 4.5k to 5k miles. I sold that bike to a friend in '06 and he has over 100k miles on it now and it still runs great. Oh and if I remember right it got max tq.(120) at around 3500 and max hp(108) at 5200.

ROD

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: TrailBoss
Oh yes. The infamous reduced temp claim.
I've used every oil out there in my Harley. None of them made it run any cooler,none,and just the claim makes me wonder about an agenda.
Now I like Amsoil. I've got likely 100 quarts of the stuff in various grades but I can honestly say not one oil reduced my operating temps.


I don't particularly like being called a liar. especially by some jack [censored] that doesn't know me. It was my actual experience documented by me on two consecutive 90+ degree days, 220 mile ride exactly the same route both days. Harley Syn3 vs AMSOIL MCV. This is what made me believe that AMSOIL might be something other than the snake oil I thought it was.

I Can't help it if you don't like facts but don't spout off about [censored] you don't know![/quote]

Right. I don't know. Not like I tried every oil from M1 15w-50,M1v-twin 20w-50,motul 15w-50 and 10w-60,Amsoil 20w-50 and straight 60,RP 20w-50 automotive oil and PYB 20w-50.
I have a dipstick with the oil temp displaying with a simple look down.
Of all of these oils the operating temp difference was none. Ambient air temps affected it more than different oils did,which was also nothing.
So bud,I suggest losing your attitude and prove your position,otherwise it carries as much weight as any other post from an anonymous member in an Nernst forum.
And save the Amsoil tests. Lets try a 3rd party with actual data,since we here at bitog love real data.
Don't get me wrong. I'm an Amsoil fan however in my experience in testing these different oils in my Harley I found NO difference in operating temps.
We all know going thinner will dissipate heat faster however oils of the same grade will dissipate heat at the same rate,within a few degrees.
So if you can post some real data from someone who isn't selling something I'd be happy to read it.

 

[henni]

Originally Posted By: GhostFlame
.. my friend making an extra 8 bucks on me..


if your friend, why is he/she taking commission profit from you?

ask for money back.

just for full disclosure, I am a lifetime amsoil dealer (25+ years) and have *never* charged friends or family for any commission on parts, fluids, soaps, etc ... I give them the original invoice and they pay the depot .... this way I make ZERO from my orders and that is the way it should be.

 

[henni]

Originally Posted By: GhostFlame
.. make more profit on their oil or is it really that good?..


the former, not the latter

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted By: GhostFlame
Will it significantly outperform M1?



Nope. It will work, last and perform in much the same way as the comparable M1 motorcycle oil.

 

[Flyboy6258]

I've been lurking on this board for 15+ years, and now I am compelled to chime in, in agreement with Trailboss. The reduced temp claim of Amsoil is real and true. My Harley air cooled engine showed a 20-25 deg. drop in operating temp at the tank temp gage dipstick after switching over to Amsoil 20W50 MC oil.

I suspect this difference will be only noticed in ail cooled engines due to water cooling having more control over determining operating temperature.

 

[BigCahuna]

One of oils jobs is to remove heat from motor parts. As it passes over the parts, heat is supposed to be transferred and carried away to the oil pan or tank. It sounds as if your oil isn't doing much of that, and your MOTOR is still as hot or hotter then usual. Its either that or your gauge is no longer as accurate as you would want it to be.,,

 

[cycleman]

I'm currently using Amsoil 20-50 in all 3 holes of my 08 Softail. Compared to other oils I've run in the bike, like Mobil 1 Vtwin 20-50 in all 3 holes, the Amsoil does run just a bit cooler. I would say in the area of 5-10 degrees cooler at the oil tank. I notice this more at highway speeds than I do if I'm in the city.

Either of the above mentioned oils stay within the Harley's operating oil temp which is in the area of 230 F. In fact anything under 250 F is fine.

 

[benjy]

if you are using 10-40 or 20-50 their synthetic premium are MA rated at $10.10 a qt. you can get discounts but pay ship unless you live close to a warehouse of theirs

 

[SailingWJ]

That would be a Harley Davidson Evolution Engine.... ???

 

[SailingWJ]

Originally Posted By: Flyboy6258
I've been lurking on this board for 15+ years, and now I am compelled to chime in, in agreement with Trailboss. The reduced temp claim of Amsoil is real and true. My Harley air cooled engine showed a 20-25 deg. drop in operating temp at the tank temp gage dipstick after switching over to Amsoil 20W50 MC oil.

I suspect this difference will be only noticed in ail cooled engines due to water cooling having more control over determining operating temperature.


I too saw a significant drop...its hard to tell exactly as ambient is an important factor....but I used to see temps in 235-240F....now never more than 215-220....even when its 95deg out....and I too don't like being called a liar...but try and make a habit of walking away....

 

[Mackelroy]

my experience with grades, MAX temp varies maybe 2 degrees. Its just not normally a factor of any value. But average temp might vary 2 to 4 degrees, again little to no value with issue.