Amsoil euro EOT 0w30 VOA for those interested. Thanks
Amsoil Euro 0w-30 VOA
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Interesting - no moly, 50% less boron than SS, some group V of some sort based on oxidation value. Ca/Mg values lower than SS. The one attribute that makes this noticeably different than SS other than additive levels is the higher HT/HS. Hmm Titanium?
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What? An oil analysis is supposed to be an oil analysis.
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Ya, they have to be completely impartial & note the higher than expected metals.
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EOT? Looks fairly similar when it comes to pour point and Noack. Castrol EDGE is up to 50% PAO, probably Amsoil is similar. Can’t find MSDS.
I don’t know current additive package of Castrol EDGE 0W30. It is probably same as one in 0W40 API SP. I will do UOA soon when I get it out from Sequoia. I am maybe 800mls to OCI.
Titanium is something that was big in the Castrol Euro oils for JLR, maybe Amsoil was inspired.
I thought about giving this oil a go in my wife’s Pilot.
You mean Polaris Labs is supposed to know. You think they would, being a huge lab, and Amsoil that farms their analysis to them.
IMO OA has the responsibility b/c that's who you paid & Amsoil connection. I understand your point though.
You mean OA doesn't or is not supposed to know where the Ti came from in a VOA Amsoil sample as an example? Maybe the Ti isn't supposed to be in there but that's not what they say so they should know. Just understand that OA = Amsoil lab's business model.
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I mean OA simply records what the machine says. I don’t know the accuracy of the machine on titanium but if it’s within the margin of error it may as well be zero.
Any time a fluid is transferred between containers you can get transfer from the materials used to do it. So…. All OA can do is say what was present.
They include the analysis "Comments" regarding the results though. They brought it up.
Go look at what they stated about the Titanium. They said "May be an additive in this lubricant". Don't you think OA should know their own oil (Amsoil)? That's my point.Any time a fluid is transferred between containers you can get transfer from the materials used to do it. So…. All OA can do is say what was present.
If you sold your own "SubieRoo 0w-30" oil, started your own testing lab, received said oil to test, & then said "It MAY contain this metal as an additive" that would be a bit lacking. You should know your own oil right?
Again, OA should know if this Amsoil has Ti in it, as an additive, or not, period.
Ever think that maybe Polaris Labs is an independent 3rd party that just happens to have a reduced-price agreement with Amsoil/Oil Analyzers to process their kits? It’s not that hard to look up…
IOW, @fantastic, unless @Pablo or Amsoil themselves comes on here to correct this understanding… “OAI” exists literally only on paper… their oil testing kits say OAI, but all testing is performed by Polaris, which is not an Amsoil company, so that’s why the comments may not know every miniscule difference from what their testing machine results were compared to what you think Amsoil should look like.
Polaris is a great lab, ISO certified and everything, but I’d be really surprised if Amsoil shared proprietary info with them just so they could disseminate it on every $30 oil analysis to any random Tom, Richard, or Harry.
If someone follows history on BITOG there were accusations of the lab boosting Amsoil used oil analysis 20+ years ago. Patently false.
This is kinda sorta reverse
Amsoil does not control Polaris
Of course I'm not implying OA "Owns" Polaris. We already know that but it sounds like there's little value in ordering via OA, instead of going through Polaris directly, outside of potential cost savings.
I just thought Amsoil worked better with Polaris labs on the analysis w/Amsoil to get more value out of OA's test kits when testing Amsoil's own oil. OA has chosen Polaris as their lab so surely they could provide more details about their additive packages etc to Polaris. I don't believe that's an impossible model. It doesn't appear they do work together at this level so I'll now chalk it up to "business as usual" & carry on.
I like both companies. I've ordered from both companies.
Amsoil providing information to Polaris to help analyst seems like an added value.
I'm thinking really Amsoil isn't looking at used oil analysis, well especially VOA's of their own oil.Of course I'm not implying OA "Owns" Polaris. We already know that but it sounds like there's little value in ordering via OA, instead of going through Polaris directly, outside of potential cost savings.
I just thought Amsoil worked better with Polaris labs on the analysis w/Amsoil to get more value out of OA's test kits when testing Amsoil's own oil. OA has chosen Polaris as their lab so surely they could provide more details about their additive packages etc to Polaris. I don't believe that's an impossible model. It doesn't appear they do work together at this level so I'll now chalk it up to "business as usual" & carry on.
I like both companies. I've ordered from both companies.
Amsoil providing information to Polaris to help analyst seems like an added value.
IMHO 5 ppm of Ti? Could have been piping, sampling, lab, etc......definitely would need a re-run. And if concerned contact Amsoil. I'm not concerned.
