Amsoil Euro 0W-30 10K mi, 2017 CRV 1.5T - FUEL!

Strongly disagree. Honda needed a competitive powertrain option for their entire global portfolio that was suitable for economy and entry level luxury applications. The 2.0L NA is ok for economy cars and some hybrids, but wouldn’t be a very competitive engine option for their CUV and entry-level luxury vehicles.
They could have done as Buster suggested and added a bit more power to the 2.0 in those applications.
 
Just calling it as I see it - has anyone ever posted a 1.5T UOA with "no fuel?"
I’ve had one UOA with relatively low FD (May 24th 2019). This was 5w30 SS with Costco premium fuel only

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It would be interesting if Pablo ran a lower-end Amsoil (OE or XL) for shorter interval to see results. Maybe the long-drain approach just plain doesn’t work with GTDI. Of course won’t fix door locks etc.
 
The dipstick never showed over filled, never moved.

Anyway - some updates:
1) I made contact with UMH, account set up, sample received Nov 6, working on it now
2) I reached out to OAI, to get the report straightened up. I had told them it was Euro 0W-30, EOT not sure how they missed that. Seemed odd to me, but seen this before. I went in and was able to enter it myself.
3) I asked OAI if could run a TAN (probably not) and asked virgin Oxi and Nit. numbers, just to see.
4) Now here is something odd, I took a look at the engine and hoses with bright lighting, nothing that I could spot. I popped open the air box and it was really clean on the engine side (well visibly clean FWIW), but the dirty side was absolutely solid mass of black, hard crap, I didn't want to fondle it too much, but I've never seen one of my car air filters get a hard crust like that, especially under 20K miles (around 17K on this filter!). I replaced it with a $20 MicroGard. I'm not say this will make any difference, but back in the day I would say serious restriction. The wife thought the lack of perf was the new tires. I have not told her, so let's see what she says.

Honda made a decent engine, mechanically - but Honda fuel control, wiring, logic and support suck IMHO.
My experience with our 2018 CRV:
-almost always at least 3% fuel, no matter the driving pattern. goes way up (5% or more) with lots of short trips.
-with lots of highway miles, the UOA looks really good, even with high fuel. 5k-7.5k OCI doable.
-with lots of short trips, the UOA looks like crap. 3k-4.5k OCI best.
-the air filter gets dirty really fast. Someone said because of the turbo. I don't know, but my experience has been that it needs to be changed out roughly every 10k. Maybe with more highway miles it will last longer.
-I have had bad luck with 3rd party air filters. Specifically, fit. I now stick with Genuine Honda air filters.
 
My experience with our 2018 CRV:
-almost always at least 3% fuel, no matter the driving pattern. goes way up (5% or more) with lots of short trips.
-with lots of highway miles, the UOA looks really good, even with high fuel. 5k-7.5k OCI doable.
-with lots of short trips, the UOA looks like crap. 3k-4.5k OCI best.
-the air filter gets dirty really fast. Someone said because of the turbo. I don't know, but my experience has been that it needs to be changed out roughly every 10k. Maybe with more highway miles it will last longer.
-I have had bad luck with 3rd party air filters. Specifically, fit. I now stick with Genuine Honda air filters.
Thanks - Did any of yours have a very hard black-brown crud coating? I'm starting to think the OEM filter does not like water. I was concerned about fit of the AF when I bought it, but the China MicroGard fit perfectly.

This OCI was indeed mostly local, more so than any time with this car.

I have the Euro 0W-30 in there again, but will go 5K or OLM. Not sure what next, depending on results. But may go SS 10W-30 or maybe an XW-40.
 
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Thanks - Did any of yours have a very hard black-brown crud coating? I'm starting to think the OEM filter does not like water. I was concerned about fit of the AF when I bought it, but the China MicroGard fit perfectly.

This OCI was indeed mostly local, more so than any time with this car.

I have the Euro 0W-30 in there again, but will go 5K or OLM. Not sure what next, depending on results. But may go SS 10W-30 or maybe an XW-40.
Here’s the last change with 10200 mi.

I’m currently using Castro Euro 5W40 and will be posting a UOA in the next couple of days.
 
LOL. I thought it was filthy for only 10k miles.
Looks normal to light for the dirty side.

I know I am repeating myself but this was solid, and mean scary solid, and HARD black, ceramic like cured clay - the entire side, not even a hint of gray, let alone white. I wish I took a picture dang it. It was bad. I mean maybe some car had something worse with 50-100K+ or an AF never ever changed, this was almost 2x yours in miles - I had planned to take look soon (20K) if that's any respect I can regain as a half-ersed car maintainer.
 
Looks normal to light for the dirty side.

I know I am repeating myself but this was solid, and mean scary solid, and HARD black, ceramic like cured clay - the entire side, not even a hint of gray, let alone white. I wish I took a picture dang it. It was bad. I mean maybe some car had something worse with 50-100K+ or an AF never ever changed, this was almost 2x yours in miles - I had planned to take look soon (20K) if that's any respect I can regain as a half-ersed car maintainer.
Was it driven over a long stretch of freshly paved road?
 
Was it driven over a long stretch of freshly paved road?
Summer doesn't ever come here. We call it construction season, so yes. But even a load of tar....that much seems near impossible. I mean there there are some tar dots on the car.......but maybe vapors. Interesting thought. Filter wet. Dirty. Pulling tar vapors through. Hmm...
 
Looks normal to light for the dirty side.

I know I am repeating myself but this was solid, and mean scary solid, and HARD black, ceramic like cured clay - the entire side, not even a hint of gray, let alone white. I wish I took a picture dang it. It was bad. I mean maybe some car had something worse with 50-100K+ or an AF never ever changed, this was almost 2x yours in miles - I had planned to take look soon (20K) if that's any respect I can regain as a half-ersed car maintainer.
It's totally normal for that engine and that particular brand of oiled air filter. There is nothing wrong. When the dirt gets mixed with the oil, it will have the texture you described.
 
It's totally normal for that engine and that particular brand of oiled air filter. There is nothing wrong. When the dirt gets mixed with the oil, it will have the texture you described.
Hard though? I've had oiled AFs over the years, including foam in cars, bikes, ODPE never had the black/brown junk hard, crusty hard - usually greasy worst case. I am not worried, just changed. Taking CRV to get a hair cut in a couple hours. Italian Tune Up time!! Hahahahaha
 
I wouldn’t consider 3% low.

Nor would I, but BSlabs historically reports that level as 0 or "trace." Maybe sometimes 0.5%. So, most people here on the forum probably _would_ consider 3% as 'low,' they just wouldn't realize it.

I know Pablo knows, because he knows his lab measures fuel via GC, but most of the readers have no idea.

Sorry for your troubles, Pablo. Hopefully(?) it's an injector you can replace and (partly) correct the problem.
 
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