Amazing how rumors get started

[53' Stude]

This morning, a very old, misinformed "person" tells a bunch of us the USS HARRY S. TRUMAN is decommissioned. Funny, as i have a friend who is pn the ship and its on deployment. The guy starting rumor said "the news said this though"

I said "find a better news source then"

 

[53' Stude]

Who knows, guy is a disgruntled, mr know it all anyways. A ex navy co worker told him, why in hades would the U.S. NAVY decom a active aircraft carrier? Everyone in room laughed

 

[WyrTwister]

Saw where one of the active carriers is coming up for either decommissioning or overhaul . Expensive either way . But things do wear out .

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Who knows, guy is a disgruntled, mr know it all anyways. A ex navy co worker told him, why in hades would the U.S. NAVY decom a active aircraft carrier? Everyone in room laughed

I have an uncle like that. Knows everything about everything and has a streak in him of stretching the truth. Needless to say the family steers away from him.

 

[Mr Nice]

Originally Posted by WyrTwister
Saw where one of the active carriers is coming up for either decommissioning or overhaul . Expensive either way . But things do wear out .


That's why military funding is so important.

 

[RamFan]

Originally Posted by StevieC
Was he watching Fox and friends?

So glad to see another Faux News critic on here.

Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Who knows, guy is a disgruntled, mr know it all anyways. A ex navy co worker told him, why in hades would the U.S. NAVY decom a active aircraft carrier? Everyone in room laughed


I come from a Navy family, there's something about the Navy and rumors - like white on rice.

 

[StevieC]

We get all the US news on-top of our Canadian News allowing for many sources for information and while our news can be biased like any other news outlet it's nothing like that heard on Fox regularly.
They are spin doctors to the extreme in some cases. I have a hard time distinguishing whether they actually believe what they are reporting or just are blatantly lying because it's good for viewership.

I like to turn it on regularly (Fox news) to have a good head shaking session. It's better than SNL now.

 

[Vuflanovsky]

"Redeployed" can turn into "decommissioned" in a game of telephone that isn't played by people who employ basic logic about a 20 year old carrier. The George Washington and the Stennis, who are both a few years older than the Truman, are being overhauled / modernized...but an intelligent 5th grader would tell you that "decommissioned" doesn't make sense here whomever relayed that information.

 

[Zee09]

Originally Posted by StevieC
We get all the US news on-top of our Canadian News allowing for many sources for information and while our news can be biased like any other news outlet it's nothing like that heard on Fox regularly.
They are spin doctors to the extreme in some cases. I have a hard time distinguishing whether they actually believe what they are reporting or just are blatantly lying because it's good for viewership.

I like to turn it on regularly (Fox news) to have a good head shaking session. It's better than SNL now.

I do the same with CNN- no actually I don't-I couldn't watch that trash for 20 seconds
Same for MSNBC

 

[StevieC]

CNN makes me laugh as well. "The Situation Room" - To me that says. "Here is what you should fear at the moment" ... It's hilarious.

 

[Kjmack]

Let us know when Canada gets a military , instead of trying to be neutral on every conflict .🤔 Icebreakers and RMP doesn't count either . Just think how broke your country would really be if you had to build a military .

 

[Zee09]

Can you imagine doing cable news and repeating that slop over and over again
I couldn't do it.

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted by Kjmack
Let us know when Canada gets a military , instead of trying to be neutral on every conflict .🤔 Icebreakers and RMP doesn't count either . Just think how broke your country would really be if you had to build a military .

We have a military, and we pay what we are asked, you forget that 90% of us live near the U.S. border and that we are 1/10th your population so that our requirements are not the same as yours. As for remaining neutral if you mean blowing up countries with a vested self-interest for resource exploration and then pretending we did it for other reasons under the guise of terrorism, yeah we don't do that. We usually try to remain neutral in the wars the U.S. starts, however we always have your back in terms of supporting our allies on the front lines when asked.

I support the troops just not the illegal wars and the reason to go to war in the first place because the reason is usually a lie with a hidden agenda.

 

[Vuflanovsky]

Broadcast news is tribal just like the country. I'd agree it's sad that most are more concerned about supporting their media tribe than doing content analysis of media...but that takes brain power and time that people don't have...it's just easier to fall back on your tribe's flag and wave it while the "fourth estate" of any leaning rarely gets called out on any transgressions.

"Infotainment" is an apt word and all you have to do is watch your local broadcast news for a few nights and compare the content to social media versus actual "journalism"...there are usually more similarities than not with social media. News is formulaic and it's just a lot easier to report it in a predictable, social media style than it is to report it in a non-tribal, analytical way.

 

[StevieC]

We need to get that message out to folks that just take what they hear as factual until such time that we fix the journalism problem. But I suspect that this will never happen and only contribute to the problem.

 

[Astro14]

CVN-75 was commissioned in 1996. That puts her at 22 years in service. Which means that she will be due for a reactor complex overhaul (RCOH - new fuel, etc.) in a few years.

This is a very expensive proposition. Well over $1Billion (not cheap, but cheaper than the oil she would've burned in that time).

So, there is a looming big bill to pay on her, and given the strategic and political importance of our carriers, they often become "bargaining chips" in Congressional funding battles.

We have a budget battle taking place on the Hill right now.

I'm certain that there are point papers and PowerPoint briefs in the hands of staffers as part of those "discussions" which propose deferring the RCOH if the Navy were to face big budget reductions.

People, particularly political people, like the ones working on the Hill, love to be "in the know". And tell all their friends how much they "know"...

Easy to misconstrue bargaining proposals with plans.

Next thing you know: rumor with no real basis.

I assure you that the Harry S Truman, CVN-75 is very much actively serving as part of Carrier Strike Group EIGHT.

 

[Onetor]

OP,

Consider this. The etymology of rumor: "From Old French rumur, from Latin rumor (noise)."

Rumor=Noise

I would add that the U.S. is creating a new military branch: Space Force. I wouldn't worry about Aircraft carriers when we probably have a fleet of Spaceships. Lol!

Happy Holidays!

 

[RamFan]

Originally Posted by Kjmack
Let us know when Canada gets a military , instead of trying to be neutral on every conflict .🤔 Icebreakers and RMP doesn't count either . Just think how broke your country would really be if you had to build a military .


This is one of the most ignorant comments I've seen on this page to date. The Canadian military is quite capable and has quite a prestigious history.

 

[StevieC]

RamFan, Thanks... For anyone interested here is some stats: https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=canada

We spend $16.4 billion a year on defense for a population of 35 million to defend 9.9M kilometers of square land area. (6.18M miles)
that also doesn't include the 202K KM (126K miles) of coast line we have or the 8K KM (5K miles) of our borders.

 

[02SE]

Originally Posted by Zee09
Originally Posted by StevieC
We get all the US news on-top of our Canadian News allowing for many sources for information and while our news can be biased like any other news outlet it's nothing like that heard on Fox regularly.
They are spin doctors to the extreme in some cases. I have a hard time distinguishing whether they actually believe what they are reporting or just are blatantly lying because it's good for viewership.

I like to turn it on regularly (Fox news) to have a good head shaking session. It's better than SNL now.

I do the same with CNN- no actually I don't-I couldn't watch that trash for 20 seconds
Same for MSNBC


And ABC, CBS, NBC, the NY Times, etc, etc, etc.