Amazing Cree Mini Torch Flashlight..

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Just got my Ultrafire Cree Mini Torch Flashlight that I bought off Amazon. It says it's 7 watts and 300 lumens and is only 3-1/2 inches long. Some reviews say it's not 300 LM and that's alright because it's bright as [censored] regardless.
 
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Those guys are fun. I bought two, one junked out after a couple months. Think it's the switch. It's very nice how they run off one AA instead of three AAAs in a pod like many others.

Ordered more for xmas, they never showed up. Drop shipped from china. Gotta get on that.
 
These lights vary widely in quality.

I ordered one from China for under 4 bucks, then found an American seller for an 8 dollar 2 day prime delivery.

Very impressed with the Hausbell light from the american reseller, the one which finally came from china was slightly dimmer and did not focus to as small a square. Not as much throw and it heats up twice as fast and gets twice as hot.

Using an AA battery is only about 60% as bright as using a 14500( 14mm wide, 50.0mm long, same as AA) Li-ion battery.

Do note these 14500 li-ion batteries are a whole different ballgame, and have the potential to be dangerous.

A proper recharger is paramount, and the use of protected cells, which are slightly fatter and slightly longer is recommended.

The 14500 battery in these Sipik clones is truly impressive especially if you luck into a good one.

Also do not believe any Li-ion 14500 battery which claims more than 800 mAh. Avoid all those cheaper 14500 cells. They have no more than 350 mAh and that capacity lowers quickly in use.

So far my 9$ nitecore NL147 14500 are producing much greater runtimes than the cheap ultrafires I originally bought, one of which already failed after about 2 dozen cycles.

If you are new to Li-ion batteries, research their proper care and use and DO NOT treat them like normal Alkaline/ Nicad/NiMH batteries as they can cause permanent health issues is they vent with flame and you breathe it.
 
Oh boy... I spent $400-$500 each order last year. On top of what I already had. Think I made 3 orders in 2013. I've been called names for all the flashlights, batteries & chargers.
Haven't bought any this year. Guess I should see what's new for 2014. Here I come CandlePowerForum, Battery Junction etc.
 
Spend the money on some solid made in the USA maglights. More money upfront but solid build, quality and warranty. I got mine pretty cheap.

Thought all of you were pro made in USA?! LOL
 
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Spend the money on some solid made in the USA maglights. More money upfront but solid build, quality and warranty. I got mine pretty cheap.

Thought all of you were pro made in USA?! LOL


That is what I like. Mag lines with LEDs. Not all of mine are retrofitted, but they will be someday.

I wonder if a AA mag lite would work with two 14500s in series. The led bulbs usually have a decent voltage range.
 
I like mag lights, i have several, very durable. They however don't come close to the brightness of an 18650 powered light. I have an 800 lumen cree xm-l t6. I carry it almost everywhere in my pocket as its only 4.25 inches long and 1.2 inches at the widest.
Similar to this one.

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I'm still shopping for a zoomable Cree based single 18650 flashlight. I bought one cheapo on Amazon which does not impress me nearly as much as the Sipik 14500 clone. The clone when fully zoomed in projects a small tight square of intense light.

Do note the chargers included with many of Amazon's flashlight offerings are junk, and the included 18650 batteries could be capacity compromised cells pulled from old laptop batteries rewrapped and relabelled. Don't waste your money on the kits where batteries and chargers are included with the flashlight.

I bought one such light with the included charger which would take the included (protected)battery well above 4.2v( dangerous) and the battery itself which is not protected as advertised, lasts 1/15 as long as the panasonic NCR18650B 3400 mAh cells I bought before I realized they were not protected cells.

I do have a Nitecore HC50 18650 headlamp which claims 565 lumens. Its output is impressive when on this highest setting( of the 5 intensity levels). It is a level above the clones in quality, and possibly several levels below the best quality lights available.
 
The difference between a piece of junk and a useful tool seems to be the switch. Former careers had me waist deep in ceilings all over metropolitan Boston. Over the yrs, I have found a few mag lites and a Rayovac. Its a trade I've left plenty of tools in trade. All have performed well and are over 20 yrs old. Marina has a head lamp with LEDs that is pretty good.
 
Originally Posted By: wrcsixeight
I'm still shopping for a zoomable Cree based single 18650 flashlight. I bought one cheapo on Amazon which does not impress me nearly as much as the Sipik 14500 clone. The clone when fully zoomed in projects a small tight square of intense light.

Do note the chargers included with many of Amazon's flashlight offerings are junk, and the included 18650 batteries could be capacity compromised cells pulled from old laptop batteries rewrapped and relabelled. Don't waste your money on the kits where batteries and chargers are included with the flashlight.

I bought one such light with the included charger which would take the included (protected)battery well above 4.2v( dangerous) and the battery itself which is not protected as advertised, lasts 1/15 as long as the panasonic NCR18650B 3400 mAh cells I bought before I realized they were not protected cells.

I do have a Nitecore HC50 18650 headlamp which claims 565 lumens. Its output is impressive when on this highest setting( of the 5 intensity levels). It is a level above the clones in quality, and possibly several levels below the best quality lights available.


Yes, li-ion safety is a critical thing, as abusive conditions will result in cell failure and release, and in these chemistries, it is organic fires and extreme exoteric release from the cathode. Dangerous.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: wrcsixeight
I'm still shopping for a zoomable Cree based single 18650 flashlight. I bought one cheapo on Amazon which does not impress me nearly as much as the Sipik 14500 clone. The clone when fully zoomed in projects a small tight square of intense light.

Do note the chargers included with many of Amazon's flashlight offerings are junk, and the included 18650 batteries could be capacity compromised cells pulled from old laptop batteries rewrapped and relabelled. Don't waste your money on the kits where batteries and chargers are included with the flashlight.

I bought one such light with the included charger which would take the included (protected)battery well above 4.2v( dangerous) and the battery itself which is not protected as advertised, lasts 1/15 as long as the panasonic NCR18650B 3400 mAh cells I bought before I realized they were not protected cells.

I do have a Nitecore HC50 18650 headlamp which claims 565 lumens. Its output is impressive when on this highest setting( of the 5 intensity levels). It is a level above the clones in quality, and possibly several levels below the best quality lights available.


Yes, li-ion safety is a critical thing, as abusive conditions will result in cell failure and release, and in these chemistries, it is organic fires and extreme exoteric release from the cathode. Dangerous.


That is the downside. If people who buy 18650 and the 14500 lights do not know how to handle them and charge them, its downright unsafe. I don't charge mine when i'm sleeping or away from home, i don't carry the battery in my pocket outside of a case.( You really don't even want to drop these, or even totally drain them either).
 
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Im surprised nobody has mentioned Surefire flashlights. I bought the Z2-S for myself and the E2D LED Defender for the girlfriend. The Z2-S is 160 lumens and also has strobe ability. The E2D is 5 or 200 lumens. Both work excellently and no problems in the 3 years we have had them.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Spend the money on some solid made in the USA maglights. More money upfront but solid build, quality and warranty. I got mine pretty cheap.

Thought all of you were pro made in USA?! LOL


That is what I like. Mag lines with LEDs. Not all of mine are retrofitted, but they will be someday.

I wonder if a AA mag lite would work with two 14500s in series. The led bulbs usually have a decent voltage range.


What is the approximate lumen output of the LED retrofitted Mag Lights (let's say a 2 C cell model with the best LED bulb one can install in it)??
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