All the GDI, IVD and LSPI talk...

[wemay]

...has me exhausted. For this reason, once my stash is over, i'm just going to run SuperTech 5w30 Synthetic in both vehicles with a max oci of 4K miles.
It's d1G2, SN + , and the used oil analysis are always excellent.

The conjecture and banter is fun but can become overwhelming at times.

Plus, I trust Warren Oil (who blends it for this area).

 

[Solarent]

just wait until the next Top Tier Gasoline specification comes out. They are looking to include some kind of LSPI test in that to attribute for the contribution of Fuel to LSPI as well as the engine oil.

 

[Trav]

I pay no attention to it, we are not finding the cure or cause here on Bitog. The subject interest me as much as a bicycle falling over somewhere in China.

 

[Solarent]

I've been away for a while, so I haven't been following the recent discussions. There are lots of SAE papers which discuss both the cure or cause, but only on BITOG are we obsessive enough to banter with conjecture all day.

 

[53' Stude]

Originally Posted by wemay
...has me exhausted. For this reason, once my stash is over, i'm just going to run SuperTech 5w30 Synthetic in both vehicles with a max oci of 4K miles.
It's d1G2, SN + , and the used oil analysis are always excellent.

The conjecture and banter is fun but can become overwhelming at times.

Plus, I trust Warren Oil (who blends it for this area).


Say it ain't so Warren, j/k as I'm probably going to snag some 0w20 HM SUPER TECH real soon or when its above 32F

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted by Solarent
just wait until the next Top Tier Gasoline specification comes out. They are looking to include some kind of LSPI test in that to attribute for the contribution of Fuel to LSPI as well as the engine oil.

Nice to have you back Solarent.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted by Trav
I pay no attention to it, we are not finding the cure or cause here on Bitog. The subject interest me as much as a bicycle falling over somewhere in China.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted by wemay
...has me exhausted. For this reason, once my stash is over, i'm just going to run SuperTech 5w30 Synthetic in both vehicles with a max oci of 4K miles.
It's d1G2, SN + , and the used oil analysis are always excellent.

The conjecture and banter is fun but can become overwhelming at times.

Plus, I trust Warren Oil (who blends it for this area).


You just made the Waltons clan smile.

 

[wemay]

You're probably right Triple_Se7en. But i used to make the majors smile too.

 

[MParr]

All of the LSPI talk and oil addressing the problem is a bunch of bunk. Dexos Schmexos, I could give a rip. Whatever API rating that my owners manual calls is what it gets.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted by MParr
All of the LSPI talk and oil addressing the problem is a bunch of bunk. Dexos Schmexos, I could give a rip. Whatever API rating that my owners manual calls is what it gets.


Even though i cited the "Dexos Schmexos" in the original post, your sentiments are completely understood.

 

[MParr]

wemay
It wasn't directed at you. It just grates on me the that having the pretty little Dexos symbol on a oil jug is going to save any engine from blowing. Can I call it snake oil?

 

[Gokhan]

Originally Posted by wemay
...has me exhausted. For this reason, once my stash is over, i'm just going to run SuperTech 5w30 Synthetic in both vehicles with a max oci of 4K miles.
It's d1G2, SN + , and the used oil analysis are always excellent.

The conjecture and banter is fun but can become overwhelming at times.

Plus, I trust Warren Oil (who blends it for this area).

How is trusting Warren Oil will help you? Super Tech is not made by Warren Oil. It's made by Warren Distribution.

http://www.warrenoil.com/
http://www.warrendistribution.com/

I was pointing out to someone else how high-quality Super Tech High-Mileage 0W-20 Full Synthetic is.

It's likely not really GTL but a very high-quality, almost-GTL-level Group III+++, apparent from its 10% NOACK, which is impressive for a 0W-20.

The Warren Distribution MSDS shows it as CAS # 72623-87-1, which is:

Substance Name: Lubricating oils (petroleum), C20-50, hydrotreated neutral oil-based

RN: 72623-87-1

TSCA Definition 2018: A complex combination of hydrocarbons obtained by treating light vacuum gas oil, heavy vacuum gas oil and solvent deasphalted residual oil with hydrogen in the presence of a catalyst in a two stage process with dewaxing being carried out between the two stages. It consists predominantly of hydrocarbons having carbon numbers predominantly in the range of C20 through C50 and produces a finished oil with a viscosity of approximately 32 cSt at 40.degree.C (104.degree.F). It contains a relatively large proportion of saturated hydrocarbons.

http://msds.walmartstores.com/clien...y=undefined&MSDS=0&subformat=NAM

In addition, the additive package is very strong and SN PLUS. It's possibly an Infineum (Exxon Mobil and Shell) additive package.

http://pqiadata.org/SuperTech_HM_SYN_0W20.html

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted by MParr
wemay
It wasn't directed at you. It just grates on me the that having the pretty little Dexos symbol on a oil jug is going to save any engine from blowing. Can I call it snake oil?


Sorry MParr, i know you didn't. I just didn't have a chance to finish that post with something humorous too.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted by Gokhan
Originally Posted by wemay
...has me exhausted. For this reason, once my stash is over, i'm just going to run SuperTech 5w30 Synthetic in both vehicles with a max oci of 4K miles.
It's d1G2, SN + , and the used oil analysis are always excellent.

The conjecture and banter is fun but can become overwhelming at times.

Plus, I trust Warren Oil (who blends it for this area).

How is trusting Warren Oil will help you? Super Tech is not made by Warren Oil. It's made by Warren Distribution.

http://www.warrenoil.com/
http://www.warrendistribution.com/

I was pointing out to someone else how high-quality Super Tech High-Mileage 0W-20 Full Synthetic is.

It's likely not really GTL but a very high-quality, almost-GTL-level Group III+++, apparent from its 10% NOACK, which is impressive for a 0W-20.

The Warren Distribution MSDS shows it as CAS # 72623-87-1, which is:

Substance Name: Lubricating oils (petroleum), C20-50, hydrotreated neutral oil-based

RN: 72623-87-1

TSCA Definition 2018: A complex combination of hydrocarbons obtained by treating light vacuum gas oil, heavy vacuum gas oil and solvent deasphalted residual oil with hydrogen in the presence of a catalyst in a two stage process with dewaxing being carried out between the two stages. It consists predominantly of hydrocarbons having carbon numbers predominantly in the range of C20 through C50 and produces a finished oil with a viscosity of approximately 32 cSt at 40.degree.C (104.degree.F). It contains a relatively large proportion of saturated hydrocarbons.

http://msds.walmartstores.com/clien...y=undefined&MSDS=0&subformat=NAM

In addition, the additive package is very strong and SN PLUS. It's possibly an Infineum (Exxon Mobil and Shell) additive package.

http://pqiadata.org/SuperTech_HM_SYN_0W20.html


Thanks for the correction G'. I always get the Warren's confused. Funny since my first name is Warren too. Good info on Super Tech High Mileage Syn.

 

[bbhero]

Will tell ya this wemay.... Warren Distribution oil is almost guaranteed to make a car run quiet... The Peak high mileage is great in my car. They do a good job has you mentioned.

 

[wemay]

 

[StevieC]

With the amount of Ecoboost engines Ford is selling alone, let alone the heaps of engines from other manufacturers that are GDI / TGDI the sky would have fallen and these OE's would have quickly retreated back to PFI or a dual setup and this just isn't happening.

Has there been some teething issues at first with some first generation GDI / TGDI models and some one-off cases with a certain engine design. SURE.
Is it the norm for all GDI / TGDI engines and should we live in fear? Nope.

One exception is Injector filters, heaven forbid if I don't mention that and someone here takes it the wrong way.

Running a conservative interval with a decent oil that meets the spec is an excellent idea and a failsafe way to ensure you did what you could not to create the problem yourself should it arise.

 

[4wd]

Looked at some F150's with the new 3.3L TiVct since they were non turbo and dual point injection … but decided they had not been around long enough …

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted by 4WD
Looked at some F150's with the new 3.3L TiVct since they were non turbo and dual point injection … but decided they had not been around long enough …

Yeah I broke that rule with my Toyota Highlander and the new 8-speed transmission and boy was I sorry I bought something that hadn't been around a while yet.

Oh well, live and learn.