Airstrikes in Syria.
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While most gullible Western news agencies are talking up IS as the reincarnation of Khalid ibn al-Walid’s cavalry, Israel has no fear of IS, or any other Sunni jihadi force in Syria, at all.
So the next time you hear idiots like Senator Lindsey Graham blithering about IS chopping us all up in our beds one of these days, remind him that his favorite ally is so comfy with IS, so contemptuous of IS’s combat ability, that the IDF has coddled an IS outpost right below its most sensitive strategic position on the Golan Heights.
Food for thought.
While most gullible Western news agencies are talking up IS as the reincarnation of Khalid ibn al-Walid’s cavalry, Israel has no fear of IS, or any other Sunni jihadi force in Syria, at all.
So the next time you hear idiots like Senator Lindsey Graham blithering about IS chopping us all up in our beds one of these days, remind him that his favorite ally is so comfy with IS, so contemptuous of IS’s combat ability, that the IDF has coddled an IS outpost right below its most sensitive strategic position on the Golan Heights.
Food for thought.
This is not food for thought. There is currently 5 Arab nations providing direct overt support against ISIS. This is not a popular political move in Sunni majority nations by a long shot and if Israel is caught working with Arab nations the Muslim world would literally go ape doo and what happened in Iraq and Syria with ISIS will look like a peaceful quite protest.
This is Mideast 101.
This is Mideast 101.
Silence towards and toleration of Assad's killing of a quarter million souls led to the swamp of isil. To dry the swamp Assad must be held accountable. Any action not addressing the cause will not yield the desired outcome.
Isil is not Islamic, or for Islam at all. It stands for barbarism, base senseless violence.
Isil is not Islamic, or for Islam at all. It stands for barbarism, base senseless violence.
Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: babbittd
Lindsey Graham blithering about IS chopping us all up in our beds one of these days.
Another day in the office for right wing nuts.
Ya might want to browse the news!
Originally Posted By: babbittd
Lindsey Graham blithering about IS chopping us all up in our beds one of these days.
Another day in the office for right wing nuts.
Ya might want to browse the news!
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: babbittd
Lindsey Graham blithering about IS chopping us all up in our beds one of these days.
Another day in the office for right wing nuts.
Ya might want to browse the news!
Meh, I don't watch FOX.
Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: babbittd
Lindsey Graham blithering about IS chopping us all up in our beds one of these days.
Another day in the office for right wing nuts.
Ya might want to browse the news!
Meh, I don't watch FOX.
Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: babbittd
Lindsey Graham blithering about IS chopping us all up in our beds one of these days.
Another day in the office for right wing nuts.
Ya might want to browse the news!
Meh, I don't watch FOX.
Any news, a woman was beheaded in Oklahoma today. Supposidly he recently converted to Islam, however he had a tattoo that was islamic that was not new.
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: babbittd
Lindsey Graham blithering about IS chopping us all up in our beds one of these days.
Another day in the office for right wing nuts.
Ya might want to browse the news!
Meh, I don't watch FOX.
Any news, a woman was beheaded in Oklahoma today. Supposidly he recently converted to Islam, however he had a tattoo that was islamic that was not new.
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Originally Posted By: gman2304
Google barbarism....then get back to us.
? Do you google the meaning of words often? Such a need exists for you?
I do know the meaning of words I use, have no need to google them.
And your point is, if there is one?
Google barbarism....then get back to us.
? Do you google the meaning of words often? Such a need exists for you?
I do know the meaning of words I use, have no need to google them.
And your point is, if there is one?
Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
Originally Posted By: gman2304
Google barbarism....then get back to us.
? Do you google the meaning of words often? Such a need exists for you?
I do know the meaning of words I use, have no need to google them.
And your point is, if there is one?
The point is simple. Radicalized Islamic idiots are the WHOLE problem. Get used to it.
Just as Assad must go to dry the swamp, so must true Islamic believers REJECT the radicals, and slam the door on the mosques that preach it.
Until that happens this is rinse and repeat ad infinitum...
Originally Posted By: gman2304
Google barbarism....then get back to us.
? Do you google the meaning of words often? Such a need exists for you?
I do know the meaning of words I use, have no need to google them.
And your point is, if there is one?
The point is simple. Radicalized Islamic idiots are the WHOLE problem. Get used to it.
Just as Assad must go to dry the swamp, so must true Islamic believers REJECT the radicals, and slam the door on the mosques that preach it.
Until that happens this is rinse and repeat ad infinitum...
November, 16th 2001 : quote: "Franklin Graham, Islam is an evil religion". To say that ISIL/ISIS is not part of, or for Islam is either the height of PC cowardess or complete idiocy! You need Google, more than you know. Still waiting on the Islamic leadership in the U.S. to come out and explain it's position on the 'barbaric' terrorist attack in OK yesterday. Get your head out of your !!! and call it what it is!! Franklin Graham was right and has yet to apologize, just as I will never apologize for recognizing evil when I see it!
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
And Saddam's Baathist cronies would not have supported them if Nouri al-Maliki wasn't a complete [censored]! And Iraq is hardly "democratic" - A tyranny of the majority in the truest sense of the word! The Iraqi gov't and their hollow Army of political appointees got what they deserved!
This is alleged by some very smart folks to have been the reason the Iraqi Army would not fight. Only cronies got the higher rank position, many extremely unqualified "leaders" who ran away at the first sign of bloodshed.
I doubt things will ever be much different...
Actually, it was a good deal worse than that. Many of those cronies were so corrupt, they actually encouraged their men not to show up or even to desert. They would either split their paycheck or just take all of it if they deserted. Initiative of the better qualified and motivated was quashed. The battle for the Sunni portions of Iraq was lost even before it began.
It's sort of like Vietnam all over again, but maybe a good deal worse. There were some South Vietnamese actually worth their salt and they did put up some resistance to the final PAVN push in places. There really hasn't been much evidence of that by the Iraqis (official Army) other than with some of their elite forces...
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
And Saddam's Baathist cronies would not have supported them if Nouri al-Maliki wasn't a complete [censored]! And Iraq is hardly "democratic" - A tyranny of the majority in the truest sense of the word! The Iraqi gov't and their hollow Army of political appointees got what they deserved!
This is alleged by some very smart folks to have been the reason the Iraqi Army would not fight. Only cronies got the higher rank position, many extremely unqualified "leaders" who ran away at the first sign of bloodshed.
I doubt things will ever be much different...
Actually, it was a good deal worse than that. Many of those cronies were so corrupt, they actually encouraged their men not to show up or even to desert. They would either split their paycheck or just take all of it if they deserted. Initiative of the better qualified and motivated was quashed. The battle for the Sunni portions of Iraq was lost even before it began.
It's sort of like Vietnam all over again, but maybe a good deal worse. There were some South Vietnamese actually worth their salt and they did put up some resistance to the final PAVN push in places. There really hasn't been much evidence of that by the Iraqis (official Army) other than with some of their elite forces...
Originally Posted By: Throckmorton
...It is widely know that the reason no president has pardoned Pollard, despite enormous political pressure to do so, is that waves of high-ranking career CIA officers have threatened to resign in protest if such a thing is ever done. I doubt those CIA officer are Kremlin assets. They are the ones whose contacts in Eastern Europe & Russia were all rounded up and executed based on the information Israel sold to Russia.
Widely know' by whom? I've never heard that specifically. Then again, they may be passing onto Pollard the guilt of having a mole that was so obviously a flashy drunk that caused most of this. Also, a defector from the CIA went over to the Soviets before the end of the Cold War and the KGB tracked down and killed many of our agents. Pollard had nothing to do with that...
It was Aldrich Ames, not Pollard, bud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldrich_Ames#Espionage
You're just propagandizing another myth...
...It is widely know that the reason no president has pardoned Pollard, despite enormous political pressure to do so, is that waves of high-ranking career CIA officers have threatened to resign in protest if such a thing is ever done. I doubt those CIA officer are Kremlin assets. They are the ones whose contacts in Eastern Europe & Russia were all rounded up and executed based on the information Israel sold to Russia.
Widely know' by whom? I've never heard that specifically. Then again, they may be passing onto Pollard the guilt of having a mole that was so obviously a flashy drunk that caused most of this. Also, a defector from the CIA went over to the Soviets before the end of the Cold War and the KGB tracked down and killed many of our agents. Pollard had nothing to do with that...
It was Aldrich Ames, not Pollard, bud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldrich_Ames#Espionage
You're just propagandizing another myth...
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Originally Posted By: Volvohead
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
You think Assad is any less brutal?
Not at all. This is a land of religious caliphates, dictatorships (military and otherwise) and monarchies.
Anyone thinking they can turn it into Dayton, Ohio is a fool.
The only state remotely approaching a western system there is Israel.
Well, I guess having your security forces abduct, torture, and rape young boys -then sending footage to their parents- doesn't count as "brutal" to you?
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
You think Assad is any less brutal?
Not at all. This is a land of religious caliphates, dictatorships (military and otherwise) and monarchies.
Anyone thinking they can turn it into Dayton, Ohio is a fool.
The only state remotely approaching a western system there is Israel.
Well, I guess having your security forces abduct, torture, and rape young boys -then sending footage to their parents- doesn't count as "brutal" to you?
Originally Posted By: spasm3
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Any news, a woman was beheaded in Oklahoma today. Supposidly he recently converted to Islam, however he had a tattoo that was islamic that was not new.
What about the grandfather that was born and raised Christian and shot his daughter and his five or six grandchildren? I noticed partisan fools never bring that up when reporting extreme, rare events as some sort of norm to paint a wide brush with...
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Any news, a woman was beheaded in Oklahoma today. Supposidly he recently converted to Islam, however he had a tattoo that was islamic that was not new.
What about the grandfather that was born and raised Christian and shot his daughter and his five or six grandchildren? I noticed partisan fools never bring that up when reporting extreme, rare events as some sort of norm to paint a wide brush with...
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
Originally Posted By: gman2304
Google barbarism....then get back to us.
? Do you google the meaning of words often? Such a need exists for you?
I do know the meaning of words I use, have no need to google them.
And your point is, if there is one?
The point is simple. Radicalized Islamic idiots are the WHOLE problem. Get used to it.
Just as Assad must go to dry the swamp, so must true Islamic believers REJECT the radicals, and slam the door on the mosques that preach it.
Until that happens this is rinse and repeat ad infinitum...
I would never trust a corrupt, despotic idiot to "dry the swamp" he dug and filled...
Assad has colluded with ISIS in an effort to divide his opposition and to gain some oil revenue from refineries in areas they've captured! F-Assad!
Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
Originally Posted By: gman2304
Google barbarism....then get back to us.
? Do you google the meaning of words often? Such a need exists for you?
I do know the meaning of words I use, have no need to google them.
And your point is, if there is one?
The point is simple. Radicalized Islamic idiots are the WHOLE problem. Get used to it.
Just as Assad must go to dry the swamp, so must true Islamic believers REJECT the radicals, and slam the door on the mosques that preach it.
Until that happens this is rinse and repeat ad infinitum...
I would never trust a corrupt, despotic idiot to "dry the swamp" he dug and filled...
Assad has colluded with ISIS in an effort to divide his opposition and to gain some oil revenue from refineries in areas they've captured! F-Assad!
Quote: What about the grandfather that was born and raised Christian and shot his daughter and his five or six grandchildren? I noticed partisan fools never bring that up when reporting extreme, rare events as some sort of norm to paint a wide brush with...
Did the christian grandfather that committed this terrible crime do it in the name of Jesus ? Was the daughter and her children not good practicing christians? Was he screaming Alla Ahkbar as he shot his family? Can you relate this tragedy to any religious zealotry? See the difference? Speaking of partisan fools painting with a broad brush....hmmmmm.
Did the christian grandfather that committed this terrible crime do it in the name of Jesus ? Was the daughter and her children not good practicing christians? Was he screaming Alla Ahkbar as he shot his family? Can you relate this tragedy to any religious zealotry? See the difference? Speaking of partisan fools painting with a broad brush....hmmmmm.
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