Advice needed on establishing 10 gal fish tank

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I know these things kinda run themselves, but we have been struggling for the most part. We did have a good 5 year run with some guppies, but since then we must be doing something wrong.

I wish I could use a larger tank but space is the factor. We are on a well and our PH is about 7.1, we use a layer of gravel about 3/4-1" deep, quiet flow 10 filter, even tried the 20 series. Temp is good but our nitrates get out of whack and ammonia slowly creeps up. We keep it clean but I guess it doesn't get established even though we wait a week or 2. We usually only have 2 or 3 fish.

All input appreciated.....this can't be this difficult.
 
Do you clean gravel/sand from decaying fish food and excrements? What substrate do you run in filter, how do you clean it? You want to simply gently rinse sponge as useful bacteria lives on it. You need to do water changes to, say 10% a week.
Freshly setup tanks take weeks to stabilize, smaller tanks are more difficult to maintain.
There are many fish keeping resources on the net.
 
Do you clean gravel/sand from decaying fish food and excrements? What substrate do you run in filter, how do you clean it?

We use a suction style cleaner with the large plastic tube and hose. For the filter it's the factory plastic bio filter and the white replaceable filters with the black media inside. When the replaceable filter gets nasty we replace it and rinse the new one before using it.
 
I have a 10 gallon setup I keep for the kids with a couple comet goldfish in it (you know, the .10 ones from the pet store). They are actually pretty cool chill fish and they are easy to keep and very friendly. Our tank has been established for a couple years with regular maintenance.
  • I have a small Whisper HT10 heater and a small Whisper PF10 filter.
  • I have an air stone and small pump that aerates the water.
  • Gravel is about 1" deep, plastic plants, rock.
  • We do drain and fills and I try to vacuum out as much debris from the gravel as I can. Goldfish are pretty dirty fish. I take an old clean sponge and rub the inside of the tank for algae and debris to get it into the water while vacuuming. Now this is important, you only want to remove about 20-30% of the water and add fresh, I usually fill about half a 5 gallon bucket which usually equates to 2.5 gallons.
  • The tank gets really murky after doing these water changes but in about 4-8 hours it is CRYSTAL CLEAR (looks real nice).
  • I rinse the filter out with water every 1-2 months or sooner if I can.
  • I add a little API Stress Coat to the fresh water I am putting in. Periodically I will add a bit of Aquarium Salt, that benefits the fish. Note that this does not evaporate out of the tank so it will accumulate in the water and only leaves via the water changes so you can't be adding it all of the time.
Hope this helps, I give my kids free range to feed the fish and take care of them. They also help when it is time to clean the tank. My younger sticks his finger in the tank and the goldfish "bite" him he says lol. The fish are thriving and have grown from about 1" when we bought them to almost 3" and yes they pretty much won the Lotto out of the feeder tank at the pet store lol.
 
What has worked well for me is a combination of Fritzyme 7 to get bateria growing before fish are introduced, a pothos or other live plants to suck up the nitrates and using a simple sponge filter. Once the bacteria were established, then I introduced the fish and a couple of snails to help clean the tank. I do minimal water changes because the bacteria and plants keep the nitrites and nitrates in check.
 
Forgot to add, this is a pro tip, try not to change the filter media, there is not really a need to. Just rinse out the debris and reuse it. That keeps the good bacteria that helps break down the toxins in the bio cycle. For establishing a tank, you can ask the pet store for some water that has bacteria in it, take some water or a plant or something from a friends established tank. There are also bacteria products. Some people even add fish food to the tank without fish. I would just get some feeder guppies and put them in the tank and let them establish it before adding expensive fish (they have gotten very $$$).
 
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The fish eat the food, poop it into ammonia, the bacteria eat the ammonia and poop it into nitrite, then you got your bacteria that eats the nitrite and poops it into nitrate. Nothing eats the nitrate except plants (if you don't have live plants, this is what causes algae growth) so you only can remove nitrate by water changes.

Each time it changes form it becomes less toxic to the fish, nitrate is least toxic.
 
Check your local fish stores, you should be able to buy bottles of bacteria culture, speak with stores senior staff.
It's been long while since I kept and bred fish, even my wife was hooked for some time watching German Blue Rams and Kribensis spawn and taking care of fry. Moved to own house, job change, became a grandad, other hobbies... bought a $1200 rifle scope today... Lol
 
...our nitrates get out of whack and ammonia slowly creeps up. We keep it clean but I guess it doesn't get established even though we wait a week or 2...

I suspect your cleanings are killing most of your good bacteria faster than it can develop let alone do its real job of "Eating" waste. small tank will naturally be harder to keep balanced. There just isn't enough economies of scale

Focus on the biological and keeping it alive

o No more than 50% water change at a time (10 gallon tank, you might have to do a water change every 5 days; this does not mean a full cleaning, just a quick suck and fill)
o 100% Ensure you rinse out the biological filter in a bucket with the water you sucked out of the tank, them promptly drop it back in the tank, while you do other cleaning/work. Lacking water flow / oxygen; the good bacteria can die within 20 minutes. If it dries out, it's done and will take 2 weeks+ to get back to speed
o Again, a canister filter 2-3x the rated size (Turned down to the appropriate flow rate) will have 10x the area for good bacteria to thrive and do its job. increase your water volume. Plus it might only need to be cleaned once every 2-3 weeks, so really you only need a ~20 minute suck/fill/glass cleaning every 5-7 days
 
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I've been fish keeping for over 40yrs. I've only done it well the past 15 or so. Just to add to all the above, a small tank like a 10g will tend to be more challenging to establish a nitrogen cycle from scratch than a tank with a larger volume of water.

If you know anyone with a healthy, well established tank, if they can give you a sock of gravel or a sponge from the filter out of that tank you will be instantly cycled if you keep this in your new tank. This is provided your 10g isn't overstocked and provided you don't dump too much food in the tank. What you add into the tank in terms of foods is what generates the majority of the ammonia and then nitrates in an established tank.

I always suggest to people new to the "hobby": Always be sure to locate your tanks, such that you can do water changes easily. Proper fish keeping requires weekly or bi-weekly water changes. It all depends on your stocking and live plant content.

FWIW, I had to put down my 12yr/old oscar earlier in the summer. His 12+ year old green severum tank mate lives on alone in a 75gal tank. I have done a weekly ~80% water change in that tank for 12yrs. I have a system where I pump the water onto the lawn/flowers and refill directly from a nearby sink. Super easy process. The only additive I use is Seachem Prime or the granular form "safe" to dechlor / detox tap water.

With your foods, always read the ingredient label. If the first 3-4 ingredients are grains and fillers and not protein and plant matter, it's garbage food that will lead to poor water parameters.
 
I know these things kinda run themselves, but we have been struggling for the most part. We did have a good 5 year run with some guppies, but since then we must be doing something wrong.

I wish I could use a larger tank but space is the factor. We are on a well and our PH is about 7.1, we use a layer of gravel about 3/4-1" deep, quiet flow 10 filter, even tried the 20 series. Temp is good but our nitrates get out of whack and ammonia slowly creeps up. We keep it clean but I guess it doesn't get established even though we wait a week or 2. We usually only have 2 or 3 fish.

All input appreciated.....this can't be this difficult.

Your average tank will never run itself. They do become easy to maintain as time goes on when the only thing you have to do is your water changes, squeeze out the filter media and take care of the dietary needs of the fish you keep.

Sorry if it's been mentioned, but for a new tank / new fishkeeper, mail-order yourself the API freshwater master test kit. It's way more reliable than test strips and the kit will last you for years. There are some tips and techniques you'll need for proper use of this kit, so please ask if you are going to go this route.

I've done my best to help friends, family, neighbors who wanted to get into the hobby. Most give you the blank stare when you start talking nitrogen cycle, water changes, etc.. etc. Most don't want to hear it. They think you just top up the tank and change the filter media. There is a lot to it, to do it right. The good news is, it's not difficult, not too time consuming and you don't have to make it expensive at all compared to keeping other pets.
 
What is interesting is the Nitrogen cycle is how plants are able to use the fertilizer we put on our lawns.
 
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My wife has successfully set up and maintained fish aquariums for more than twenty years. And I’m talking about multiple aquariums (think “fifteen plus”) at the same time with sizes from ten gallons and upward.

Not surprisingly, she has a part time gig at a local aquarium store.

Since my knowledge of anything fish related is limited to my frequent trips to high-end sushi bars, I showed her your post @i6pwr, and here’s her sage advice:

“For a ten gallon tank, use a sponge filter.

Use a bacteria product that will jump start the cycle.

Add one hardy fish to add ammonia to the water.

After a week have a reputable fish store test the water. If that is ok, add fish slowly.

Plants will help keep nitrate levels down.

Feed sparingly.

Always rinse sponge filter in Dechlorinated water-NEVER under the faucet!

Keep only small fish and low numbers.”

Good luck!
 
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Ok, this is going to be a long post. Aquaariums have been a passion of mine (boy I am going to sound old) since around 1966.
Back then I made a lot of mistakes, after all, I was only around 11 years old. As time went on (yes I am still alive and not a ghost writing this) I read every publication, every book on every subject including lighting and filtration.
To speed up this post. I then got into marine fish and what was new at the time was called a reef tank starting around 1990. SO for other 30 years I have maintained a reef tank with marine fish and hard and soft corals.

New home in 2023 before the move I have a local marine store take everything away, wast possible to move it. I was also looking to return to my roots with all I learned into a 55 gallon fresh water once in the new home. 30+ year of mixing salt for the marine tanks, not getting any younger AND a brand new home with wood flooring I did not want the mess.

EXACTLY one year ago Sept 2023 I set up this tank. I have not lost a fish except one that jumped out of the tank and found on the floor one day and one other that disappeared, it was a small tetra at the time (they have since grown) it is possible an Angel fish ate it. (they have grown quite a bit too)

SO this is what I do, hope this helps. It works every time to the point that for me nowovel 5 decades later, this stuff come so easy I almost get bored because the fish live forever and there is nothing new to buy. My last tank of marine fish some were well over a 10 years old.

Ok, going to post this now and then continue on with what I do. I always fear during a long post losing what I type do to some wonky thing happening in this format.
Below are my current photos. Glass is due to be cleaned. I just wanted to get this posted because I have been meaning to so snapped a quick photo.

Im so excited to be back to fresh water.

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@alarmguy How's your blue gourami's temperament? I'm assuming good? It mostly depends on not having any other similarly sized and shaped fish in the tank in with them. They can be either docile and good natured, or be absolute terrors. I've got an old blue I've had for years that is real mellow (lower tank). Below is a pic of my two 75g tanks. They need some TLC aside from my regular maintenance. All live plants in the lower tank. I also have a 10g with neocaridina shrimp and live plants. My ~9" green severum is alone in the top tank.

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Ok, with the above said, these are my recommendations based on my experiences and knowledge with a twist of my own methods.
1. A gravel bed of 1 inch is not enough. It should slope from about one inch in the front of the tank to about 3 inches in the back. Mine is about 4 inches in the back corners and a little less in the middle back to maybe 3 inches. I realize in a smaller tank this might look less then nice but at the least I would have about 3 inches in the back corners sloping to the middle with a low of 3/4 to 1 inch in the front.
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The reason for this is in the deep area of the gravel which you never really want to clean. It's fine for the shallow areas of the gravel to clean) is at the deep level anaerobic bacteria develop. This is bacteria that lives in a VERY low oxygen environment. It is this bacteria that survives on the nitrate in the tank. It will help keep it lower.

2. Water changes, once a month, 25% to 30% ten gallon tank about 3 gallons (no more)
OF course if city water use dechlorinator .

One or two live plants, the ones you see that look spread out are Amazon Swords. Actually one would be fine for you. Also get some fish tank plant tabs. Put on tab into the gravel near the roots once per month.

3. I personally use test strips to check water quality, they work good enough for our purposes.
I find this time of year the water from my faucet contains low levels of nitrites (not nitrates) SO changing my water once a month is actually (lack of a better word) adding more dangerous Nitrites to the tank where the tank has none, and the tank then breaks down into nitrates (safer). Between the gravel and plants the nitrate level is stable at around 30 (ish) PPM. Anything less than 50 is fine. When I do a once a month water change this drops the level a bit lower. (my tap water does not have much nitrate)

4. Water temperature should be kept around 78 degrees. 76 winter is fine 80 summer is fine, even higher.

5. Food, this is what kills fish and ruins tank and has people give up on the hobby. They put food in the tank, WAY, WAY, WAY too much food. Been there done that decades ago. More fish and tanks are killed by to much food than anything. Fish in nature eat food at every chance they get, its survival, they never know their next meal. Thing is if their body doesnt need it, they are simply sending undigested food back into the tank. Most fishtanks are like fish living in a sewer.
IF YOU DO ANYTHING I posted, to this. STOP FEEDING YOUR FISH EVERYDAY and if you fish get sick, longer than that, they are sick because of polluted water.
Every other day is fine and when you do, feed every other day all food should be gone in less then 5 minutes, meaning NOT a trace of it left. I think I am closer to 3 to 4 minutes. I feed a mix of frozen blood worms from the pet store and LARGE flake food (tetra) so the fish have a chance to eat the flakes before they fall apart and become part of the water pollution problem.
When I feed, I drop a cube (you would use less) of frozen food and then flake flood all at once, you get used to what will disappear if a few minutes and than that is it. No more for another 2 days. This isnt a hard and fast rule, as long as you go light on the food once a day, you can even feed everyday but at least one to two days a week no food and never more than once a day.
Food is the pollutant.

FIlter - tough call on a 10 gallon tank, filters do not do too much, changing carbon once a month is a good idea or twice if its once of those small filters. I use Sea Chem Tidal filters hangs on back but their smallest is for 20 to 35 gallon. Fantastic filter if you ever have a larger tank. Wash filter media once a week. I also have a 270 GPH power head with filter material that gets rinsed once a week. This is needed in a tank this size to have proper water circulation. Meaning all four corners of the tank should have at least some moving water.

Im sure I am leaving some stuff out but let me address your original post now _
1. Stop adding chemicals to the water, forget trying to control PH. Fish adapt to a wide range of conditions, you make it hard for them with a seesaw effect every time you change water.

2. it takes a good 2 months for a tank to be fully established not 2 weeks, far too little. Do not worry about nitrates but do worry about Ammonia and Nitrite both deadly. If you have any ammonia you have along way to go until the tank is established. Maintain one or two fish, feed only every other day and as little as they can eat in 3 minutes. Anytime you put food in that water you are adding ammonia and nitrite but once a tank is established the bacteria breaks it down instantly to harmless nitrates. (amazon sword loves nitrates)
During this time DO NOT, NEVER, CLEAN your filter and NEVER clean your gravel. That is where the bacteria lives to break down Antonia and nitrite.

3. Once established and you NEVER see ammonia or nitrite in your water, you can once a week clean your filter. If you set up your gravel like I posted, you can clean the front of the gravel in the tank but NEVER the high part in the back. You want that undisturbed.

4. Ok, here is one chemical, most often used in a tank that is only a few months old. It's fantastic to clean up a tank where you eventually get a coating of blue green algae in a tank over the gravel CynoBateria. Always use any chemical is a last resort. This stuff works and you should never need it more than once, possibly twice in the first year of a tank. It's made by Boyd Enterprises and it is called ChemiClean.

Most all, chill, tanks take months to stabilize and be established. You will lave a run of the mill brown algae, to green, to possibly the mentioned Blue/green sheets of Cyno. Key is to not feed too much food.
 
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@alarmguy How's your blue gourami's temperament? I'm assuming good? It mostly depends on not having any other similarly sized and shaped fish in the tank in with them. They can be either docile and good natured, or be absolute terrors. I've got an old blue I've had for years that is real mellow (lower tank). Below is a pic of my two 75g tanks. They need some TLC aside from my regular maintenance. All live plants in the lower tank. I also have a 10g with neocaridina shrimp and live plants. My ~9" green severum is alone in the top tank.

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Nice plant set up! Im trying to guess the lights on the bottom tank. Either shop lights or higher end like form Aquarium CO-OP or oh heck I forgot, I bought and returned so many until I got down to what worked for me. My own modified Hygger LED. I use two fixtures front to back. I find them a little too blue so I covered up every other blue LED with painters tape to block it.

Blue Gourami (Jerry) is my favorite fish, he is getting big too. Funny you should mention that. Yeah, oh I was concerned about temperament. I knew not to get two. Jerry is pretty Docile. He was the last fish to be added to the tank, months after the others.
Almost all the time except for a very rare moment he just floats around on his merry way. When I say rarely I do mean rarely he may seem to get mildly aggressive towards an Angel fish if they cross his path but they will have no part of it and both just continue on their way, Meaning there is no chasing around the tank. The Angels have grown quite a bit too. My wife really wanted them and they have been in there within the first two months or so of setting up the tank. I actually like the schooling of the tetra's black neons and crud I forgot. Redtail tetras? Interesting they will hang together but then at certain times school with their own kind.

IN case I didnt mention it, love how you have those plants growing.

BTW- the Betta you see in there has been in the tank since one week setting it up. I figured he was better off in my tank while I broke it in vs. the plastic disgusting container he was sitting in, in PetCo. ;) they are actually very interesting fish. WHENEVER I do anything with the gravel. I do occasionally vacuum the very front (not the back. or plant a plant he is right there next to my fingers. I guess looking for creatures to eat as I stir up the gravel. Really interesting fish to watch poke around the tank all day.
 
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