advice from parents about camping
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Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
I sure hope your wife has more sense than you. wow.
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
I sure hope your wife has more sense than you. wow.
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
A "mature" 3 year old is still 3 years old. Period.
4 years old with a gun? Wow.
That was common practice back in the day. Alot of people Had firearms young. Also depends on where you live in the country
No offense but I think you may be off a little on the age. My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch. That is not a good idea regardless of the time it is done in or where you live. A 4 year old is not safe with a gun. I wouldn't want to be within range of any 4 year old with a gun even if being supervised. That is too young. BB gun with an adult showing how MAYBE but that is it. Nothing that actually uses powder. Not even wax bullets. Nope nope nope.
I was started out young with guns myself. Was allowed to shoot a BB gun with adult supervision at 7 years old. Fired a .22 at 10 years old( again with adult supervision ). Had my 1st shotgun at 12 years old. And so on. No way I was touching a real gun at 4 years old though.
I am not against guns for kids. But 4 years old is crazy man. Just is. There hasn't been a 4 year old to ever walk this Earth( let's leave religious figures out ok guys )that is mature enough to handle a real gun or even a BB gun at that age let alone have their own gun and go off on their own with it into the woods. Not now, not in the 1800's, not in the 1700's, etc...
That is dangerous I don't care how you try and word it.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
A "mature" 3 year old is still 3 years old. Period.
4 years old with a gun? Wow.
That was common practice back in the day. Alot of people Had firearms young. Also depends on where you live in the country
No offense but I think you may be off a little on the age. My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch. That is not a good idea regardless of the time it is done in or where you live. A 4 year old is not safe with a gun. I wouldn't want to be within range of any 4 year old with a gun even if being supervised. That is too young. BB gun with an adult showing how MAYBE but that is it. Nothing that actually uses powder. Not even wax bullets. Nope nope nope.
I was started out young with guns myself. Was allowed to shoot a BB gun with adult supervision at 7 years old. Fired a .22 at 10 years old( again with adult supervision ). Had my 1st shotgun at 12 years old. And so on. No way I was touching a real gun at 4 years old though.
I am not against guns for kids. But 4 years old is crazy man. Just is. There hasn't been a 4 year old to ever walk this Earth( let's leave religious figures out ok guys )that is mature enough to handle a real gun or even a BB gun at that age let alone have their own gun and go off on their own with it into the woods. Not now, not in the 1800's, not in the 1700's, etc...
That is dangerous I don't care how you try and word it.
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
How do you know for certain that a three year old wouldn't wander off? Kids at all ages make bad decisions.
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
How do you know for certain that a three year old wouldn't wander off? Kids at all ages make bad decisions.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
I sure hope your wife has more sense than you. wow.
Wow. Just wow. How naive can you get?
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
I sure hope your wife has more sense than you. wow.
Wow. Just wow. How naive can you get?
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
A "mature" 3 year old is still 3 years old. Period.
4 years old with a gun? Wow.
That was common practice back in the day. Alot of people Had firearms young. Also depends on where you live in the country
No offense but I think you may be off a little on the age. My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch. That is not a good idea regardless of the time it is done in or where you live. A 4 year old is not safe with a gun. I wouldn't want to be within range of any 4 year old with a gun even if being supervised. That is too young. BB gun with an adult showing how MAYBE but that is it. Nothing that actually uses powder. Not even wax bullets. Nope nope nope.
I was started out young with guns myself. Was allowed to shoot a BB gun with adult supervision at 7 years old. Fired a .22 at 10 years old( again with adult supervision ). Had my 1st shotgun at 12 years old. And so on. No way I was touching a real gun at 4 years old though.
I am not against guns for kids. But 4 years old is crazy man. Just is. There hasn't been a 4 year old to ever walk this Earth( let's leave religious figures out ok guys )that is mature enough to handle a real gun or even a BB gun at that age let alone have their own gun and go off on their own with it into the woods. Not now, not in the 1800's, not in the 1700's, etc...
That is dangerous I don't care how you try and word it.[/quote]
My grandpa was given his 410 at 4 yrs old I believe he was close to 5 though. And yes I personally think that is to young. It was just an example of how things have changed. As far as how much adult supervision he had I don't know I do know he would shoot squirrels for supper in the back yard basically was woods around 4 yrs old though.
And I Did say I was questioning letting him have his own tent. I don't worry about him wandering off though. I know if there was an issue he would come to us. I do know my son well enough to know how he reacts to things. As I said earlier he is much more mature than most. He already reads better than first and second graders. He very much not your average kid.
I will be buying a bigger tent it looks like.
Anyone have any brands of tents they prefer?
man]
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
A "mature" 3 year old is still 3 years old. Period.
4 years old with a gun? Wow.
That was common practice back in the day. Alot of people Had firearms young. Also depends on where you live in the country
No offense but I think you may be off a little on the age. My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch. That is not a good idea regardless of the time it is done in or where you live. A 4 year old is not safe with a gun. I wouldn't want to be within range of any 4 year old with a gun even if being supervised. That is too young. BB gun with an adult showing how MAYBE but that is it. Nothing that actually uses powder. Not even wax bullets. Nope nope nope.
I was started out young with guns myself. Was allowed to shoot a BB gun with adult supervision at 7 years old. Fired a .22 at 10 years old( again with adult supervision ). Had my 1st shotgun at 12 years old. And so on. No way I was touching a real gun at 4 years old though.
I am not against guns for kids. But 4 years old is crazy man. Just is. There hasn't been a 4 year old to ever walk this Earth( let's leave religious figures out ok guys )that is mature enough to handle a real gun or even a BB gun at that age let alone have their own gun and go off on their own with it into the woods. Not now, not in the 1800's, not in the 1700's, etc...
That is dangerous I don't care how you try and word it.[/quote]
My grandpa was given his 410 at 4 yrs old I believe he was close to 5 though. And yes I personally think that is to young. It was just an example of how things have changed. As far as how much adult supervision he had I don't know I do know he would shoot squirrels for supper in the back yard basically was woods around 4 yrs old though.
And I Did say I was questioning letting him have his own tent. I don't worry about him wandering off though. I know if there was an issue he would come to us. I do know my son well enough to know how he reacts to things. As I said earlier he is much more mature than most. He already reads better than first and second graders. He very much not your average kid.
I will be buying a bigger tent it looks like.
Anyone have any brands of tents they prefer?
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I was around 10 or so when I first shot a BB gun, got my first pellet gun when I was 12. My parents weren't pro-gun people (quite the opposite actually) which was odd, given that both of their parents were
That said, 4 years old is WAY too young. My daughter is 5, smart as a whip and while I am already teaching her about gun safety, she has not laid her hands on one and won't until I feel she is ready. Her brothers are 7 and 10 and I just bought a Ruger pellet gun to teach the 10 year old with. The 7 year old has handled it, but he knows he won't be able to shoot it until he is older.
It is one of those things where you want them to understand, respect and in certain situations fear firearms, but at the same time, you don't want them carting one around, even a pellet gun, until you are 100% confident that they have the safety aspect MASTERED.
I love guns and I own several (no handguns though, and there won't be any in my house, but that's another topic). When I was a kid I loved shooting squirrels and I know just how much fun that can be. There's nothing wrong with plinking and having fun as long as it is safe. It is determining WHEN it is safe; when the age that the child is completely aware as to the proper processes of safe handling, and of the potential danger of the gun, even something as seemingly harmless as a BB gun (compared to dad's big rifles) has been reached, that is the challenge for the parent.
Everybody is going to have their own point as to when they feel that has been accomplished. But the onus is on us, as parents, to KNOW that if a firearm is to be handled, that it is being done with the care and respect that it DEMANDS. Because if something goes wrong, well, that's our own fault now isn't it?
That said, 4 years old is WAY too young. My daughter is 5, smart as a whip and while I am already teaching her about gun safety, she has not laid her hands on one and won't until I feel she is ready. Her brothers are 7 and 10 and I just bought a Ruger pellet gun to teach the 10 year old with. The 7 year old has handled it, but he knows he won't be able to shoot it until he is older.
It is one of those things where you want them to understand, respect and in certain situations fear firearms, but at the same time, you don't want them carting one around, even a pellet gun, until you are 100% confident that they have the safety aspect MASTERED.
I love guns and I own several (no handguns though, and there won't be any in my house, but that's another topic). When I was a kid I loved shooting squirrels and I know just how much fun that can be. There's nothing wrong with plinking and having fun as long as it is safe. It is determining WHEN it is safe; when the age that the child is completely aware as to the proper processes of safe handling, and of the potential danger of the gun, even something as seemingly harmless as a BB gun (compared to dad's big rifles) has been reached, that is the challenge for the parent.
Everybody is going to have their own point as to when they feel that has been accomplished. But the onus is on us, as parents, to KNOW that if a firearm is to be handled, that it is being done with the care and respect that it DEMANDS. Because if something goes wrong, well, that's our own fault now isn't it?
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I was around 10 or so when I first shot a BB gun, got my first pellet gun when Its 12. My parents weren't pro-gun people (quite the opposite actually) which was odd, given that both of their parents were
That said, 4 years old is WAY too young. My daughter is 5, smart as a whip and while I am already teaching her about gun safety, she has not laid her hands on one and won't until I feel she is ready. Her brothers are 7 and 10 and I just bought a Ruger pellet gun to teach the 10 year old with. The 7 year old has handled it, but he knows he won't be able to shoot it until he is older.
It is one of those things where you want them to understand, respect and in certain situations fear firearms, but at the same time, you don't want them carting one around, even a pellet gun, until you are 100% confident that they have the safety aspect MASTERED.
I love guns and I own several (no handguns though, and there won't be any in my house, but that's another topic). When I was a kid I loved shooting squirrels and I know just how much fun that can be. There's nothing wrong with plinking and having fun as long as it is safe. It is determining WHEN it is safe; when the age that the child is completely aware as to the proper processes of safe handling, and of the potential danger of the gun, even something as seemingly harmless as a BB gun (compared to dad's big rifles) has been reached, that is the challenge for the parent.
Everybody is going to have their own point as to when they feel that has been accomplished. But the onus is on us, as parents, to KNOW that if a firearm is to be handled, that it is being done with the care and respect that it DEMANDS. Because if something goes wrong, well, that's our own fault now isn't it?
I agree I'll probably teach him at a range with me there and all around 7 or 8 it'll be a gradual thing though. Depends on his maturity level at that age really.
I was around 10 or so when I first shot a BB gun, got my first pellet gun when Its 12. My parents weren't pro-gun people (quite the opposite actually) which was odd, given that both of their parents were
That said, 4 years old is WAY too young. My daughter is 5, smart as a whip and while I am already teaching her about gun safety, she has not laid her hands on one and won't until I feel she is ready. Her brothers are 7 and 10 and I just bought a Ruger pellet gun to teach the 10 year old with. The 7 year old has handled it, but he knows he won't be able to shoot it until he is older.
It is one of those things where you want them to understand, respect and in certain situations fear firearms, but at the same time, you don't want them carting one around, even a pellet gun, until you are 100% confident that they have the safety aspect MASTERED.
I love guns and I own several (no handguns though, and there won't be any in my house, but that's another topic). When I was a kid I loved shooting squirrels and I know just how much fun that can be. There's nothing wrong with plinking and having fun as long as it is safe. It is determining WHEN it is safe; when the age that the child is completely aware as to the proper processes of safe handling, and of the potential danger of the gun, even something as seemingly harmless as a BB gun (compared to dad's big rifles) has been reached, that is the challenge for the parent.
Everybody is going to have their own point as to when they feel that has been accomplished. But the onus is on us, as parents, to KNOW that if a firearm is to be handled, that it is being done with the care and respect that it DEMANDS. Because if something goes wrong, well, that's our own fault now isn't it?
I agree I'll probably teach him at a range with me there and all around 7 or 8 it'll be a gradual thing though. Depends on his maturity level at that age really.
Originally Posted By: ram_man
My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Esp since you have a 5 year old. He must have had you later in life.
My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Esp since you have a 5 year old. He must have had you later in life.
From the topics of your threads the last couple weeks,the last thing you need in your life is more drama.
Letting a 3 year old sleep in his own tent reminds me of the phrase "play stupid games,win stupid prizes".
Letting a 3 year old sleep in his own tent reminds me of the phrase "play stupid games,win stupid prizes".
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Originally Posted By: ram_man
My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Esp since you have a 5 year old. He must have had you later in life.
I read this and thought [censored] - but he misquoted someone above him or else his dad would have been near 70 when he was born most likely!
Originally Posted By: ram_man
My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Esp since you have a 5 year old. He must have had you later in life.
I read this and thought [censored] - but he misquoted someone above him or else his dad would have been near 70 when he was born most likely!
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
I sure hope your wife has more sense than you. wow.
Dumber than a bag of hammers. Sad anyone can be a parent but most kids come out alright.
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Never a three year old let alone 5 year alone in a tent alone. They can wander......In our area bears are an issue too.
It is interesting you worry about snatching(so unlikely) however don't think the obvious problem(wandering off).
Because I know he wouldn't do that.
I sure hope your wife has more sense than you. wow.
Dumber than a bag of hammers. Sad anyone can be a parent but most kids come out alright.
Originally Posted By: ram_man
So i like my son growing up simple and knowing how to do things the old fashion way before computers and gizmos. He does know how to use a lot of tech stuff for his age though. That got me thinking. We are going camping in a month and it'll be at a state park. He will still be 3 yrs old he turns 4 in july. My mom was very much a worry wart when I was a kid so I didn't get to go hunting young and stuff and as a kid i was kind of a baby Imo. I did grow out of it though.
This seems kind of complex for the question but that's ok I guess. Would you guys let your 3 yr old have his own tent or would you get a big enough family tent. He wants to use his own tent but I kind of think he shouldn't. I worry about someone snatching him in the night. Is my worry unrealistic or well justified? I don't want to be the parent who babies their kids but on the other hand making it to adulthood in one piece is a plus.
I will be giving him my first fishing pole on the trip. I am excited to hand that down. I'm glad I was able to keep it in decent shape all those years. Thanks everyone. Have a good night.
The answer is simple NO. Too many perverts and too many other animals out there!
So i like my son growing up simple and knowing how to do things the old fashion way before computers and gizmos. He does know how to use a lot of tech stuff for his age though. That got me thinking. We are going camping in a month and it'll be at a state park. He will still be 3 yrs old he turns 4 in july. My mom was very much a worry wart when I was a kid so I didn't get to go hunting young and stuff and as a kid i was kind of a baby Imo. I did grow out of it though.
This seems kind of complex for the question but that's ok I guess. Would you guys let your 3 yr old have his own tent or would you get a big enough family tent. He wants to use his own tent but I kind of think he shouldn't. I worry about someone snatching him in the night. Is my worry unrealistic or well justified? I don't want to be the parent who babies their kids but on the other hand making it to adulthood in one piece is a plus.
I will be giving him my first fishing pole on the trip. I am excited to hand that down. I'm glad I was able to keep it in decent shape all those years. Thanks everyone. Have a good night.
The answer is simple NO. Too many perverts and too many other animals out there!
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Originally Posted By: ram_man
My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Esp since you have a 5 year old. He must have had you later in life.
Actually the part about having a 90 year old Dad was from a post of mine to him. He messed up the quote and thus it looks like his post when it is really mine.
Originally Posted By: ram_man
My Dad is 90 and he had guns young certainly. But 4 years old is a stretch.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Esp since you have a 5 year old. He must have had you later in life.
Actually the part about having a 90 year old Dad was from a post of mine to him. He messed up the quote and thus it looks like his post when it is really mine.
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