Acetone Fuel Additive Update

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the acetone craze- ahhhhhh... i'm so tempted.. I have posted in a few threads about it here and other places... I have read everything from it being an AWSOM fuel saver, to it saving no fuel, to it making milage worse, to it destroying fuel systems.

arg... I want to try it, but i don't want to risk it, lol!
 
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Originally posted by mdocod:
the acetone craze- ahhhhhh... i'm so tempted.. I have posted in a few threads about it here and other places... I have read everything from it being an AWSOM fuel saver, to it saving no fuel, to it making milage worse, to it destroying fuel systems.

arg... I want to try it, but i don't want to risk it, lol!
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If you think 3oz per 10 gallons will turn gas into a rubber and plastic eating slurry, you need to honestly see that that can not chemically happen.
 
I filled up the Corolla and the Accord last night and added a little over 2 oz. of acetone to each tankful. Drove the Accord to the store today and I swear it ran and idled better.
Mama Bear took the Accord to her yoga class tonight, I'll ask her what she thought when she gets home.
I can wash the cars and mow the lawn and she won't even notice when she comes home, so if she says it's running better then it must be quite an improvement.
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I'll keep you posted as time goes by.
P.B.
 
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Originally posted by Papa Bear:
I filled up the Corolla and the Accord last night and added a little over 2 oz. of acetone to each tankful. Drove the Accord to the store today and I swear it ran and idled better.
Mama Bear took the Accord to her yoga class tonight, I'll ask her what she thought when she gets home.
I can wash the cars and mow the lawn and she won't even notice when she comes home, so if she says it's running better then it must be quite an improvement.
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I'll keep you posted as time goes by.
P.B.
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Not enough acetone. Follow the actual directions.

Putting whatever you think is right will not help in proving anything.

If you have a 15 gallon tank, use 4.5oz
 
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Originally posted by jbl:
But isnt Acetone agressive to the fuel tank if plastic and the fuel lines which are some kind of rubber or plastic.
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Berrymans Chemtool has acetone,xyleen{sp}and other solvents I would guess diluted acetone would be ok.
 
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Originally posted by BlazerLT:
Let's not tell people how they can post their results in the forums please. You don't set the rules by which I report my real life findings.
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Unfortunately, your data is not statisticaly significant whatsoever, and anyone with half a brain would call it an 'outlier' and throw the data point.

Show me actual calculated MPG values for many previous tankfulls, then many tankfulls with an improvement from acetone, and Ill believe you... Until then, its just 'noise'

There very well may be a reason why gas hasnt been doped with acetone instead of MTBE, etc., as it is an oxygenate. Id hate for something bad to come along becuae of the promise of insignificant numbers, at a time when gas prices are biting everyone in the rump.

JMH
 
I have run acetone a few times in the blazer and haven't noticed any increase in MPG. It does seem to run better and smoother though. Don't like the smell.
Bought a scangauge and are testing different brands of gas.
 
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Originally posted by JHZR2:

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Originally posted by BlazerLT:
Let's not tell people how they can post their results in the forums please. You don't set the rules by which I report my real life findings.
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Unfortunately, your data is not statisticaly significant whatsoever, and anyone with half a brain would call it an 'outlier' and throw the data point.

Show me actual calculated MPG values for many previous tankfulls, then many tankfulls with an improvement from acetone, and Ill believe you... Until then, its just 'noise'

There very well may be a reason why gas hasnt been doped with acetone instead of MTBE, etc., as it is an oxygenate. Id hate for something bad to come along becuae of the promise of insignificant numbers, at a time when gas prices are biting everyone in the rump.

JMH
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now looking back, where did I say anything about it being proven fact?

I posted my results.

And I am sorry, I have NEVER had 16.8MPG out of my truck in the 3 years I have owned it while city driving.

And that is after SEVERAL fuel tanks in ALL conditions in the city.
 
Well, then, kindly post all previous and current data for us. Im not saying that youre misleading anyone, or that this isnt very promising... I just like my data. There is way too much "I did this and it got me x MPG extra" with no real, significant previous data to compare to.

That's all... Claims without data are just words, Id love to see numbers!

Thanks,

JMH
 
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Originally posted by JHZR2:
Well, then, kindly post all previous and current data for us. Im not saying that youre misleading anyone, or that this isnt very promising... I just like my data. There is way too much "I did this and it got me x MPG extra" with no real, significant previous data to compare to.

That's all... Claims without data are just words, Id love to see numbers!

Thanks,

JMH
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Ok, here are the last 5 tanks with all of them being city stop and go driving.

13.8mpg
14.0mpg
13.4mpg
14.1mpg
13.7mpg
16.8mpg <---acetone
 
BlaserLT, keep us posted. I don't give a rip if you are following a double blind test or not. The information is interesting. I've tried it a few times and always improved my mileage. And I understand that people often find what they are looking for and that clouds the results, but it looks like, in your case, acetone is helping.

One other thing would be interesting. Are you able to look at one of your spark plugs?
 
That is right, the total concentration is 0.234% acetone in your tank which is less concentration than some other chemicals in your fuel.

Results of common octane additives:

Xylene:

Rubber: D-Severe Effect
Viton: B = Good -- Minor Effect, slight corrosion
or discoloration.

Toluene:

Rubber:D-Severe Effect
Viton: C-Fair

Acetone:

Rubber: C-Fair
Viton: D-Severe Effect

Viton is the plastic used in fuel systems.

So as you see, the normal octane additives that are used in HIGHER concentrations in todays gas have the SAME relative affects on these components than acetone.

The thing is, Xylene and Toluene make up more than 15% of the total volume of the fuel whereas the acetone concentration is 0.234%

Toluene & Xylene: 15%+
Acetone: 0.234%

Difference is the normal harmful part of your gasoline has a concentration 64X that you will introduce with your acetone treatment.

The numbers speak for themselve, with 3oz/10 gallons, you can and WILL not cause a problem.

You could pour that concentration of maple syrup into your tank and it wouldn't hurt your engine.

To everyone thinking it will ruin anything, look at the numbers in REAL LIFE. You gas is more harmfull than the acetone you are adding.
 
OK. I have to chime in. I'm not a chemist, but have been buying snake oil for cars since 1961.
Acetone was a constituent of a product called 104 octane booster. I tried to replicate 104 back in the leaded-gas days, mainly because it worked, and the chemical make-up was listed on the old, old, original red cans. Not wanting to give away the formula (because I may be wrong, and don't want any blown-up engines on my account)*

*That was a disclaimer!

My original concoction consisted of about 30% benzene, 30% Acetone and 30% Methanol and 10% of stuff I never understood ... probably Kerosene. Benzene labeled as such is hard to find today. It still lives disguised as another fluid, readily purchased at Mal*Wart or Dome-Hepot.
Mix the Methanol into the Acetone, then mix that into the Benzene. Keep it from the sun and tightly covered. Shake the mixture well before metering out 2-oz. per 5 gallons of gas. The stuff evaporates quickly, so I usually mixed 1:1 diesel fuel to help measurement and give the volatiles a chance to get mixed. Add just before filling up.
I always used it as an octane modifier (my Chrysler Concorde which preferred midgrade, never knew I was feeding it lowgrade regular)... no ping and about 8%~10% better fuel mileage than with regular.
It still works today. My Lexus' computer/O-2 sensors thinks it has midgrade and performs to my expectations. Never had a problem with seals or neoprene components ... maybe because the vehicles I own are Gasohol-85 compliant. That's the extent of my tribal knowledge on gasoline additives.

Dave
 
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