A High milage gas engine

[DrDusty86]

What do you consider high milage for a gas engine?
I heard 300k for a diesel from another thread.
I'm talking light class gas engines- less than 14000lbs GVW
My gas engine list
95' ranger 3.0 412k miles NEVER opened the motor- Used Mobil 1 5w30. Seemed factory tight.
99' ZX2 Escort 2.0 DOHC 202k miles Just a TB at 140k. Has 2,250 hours idling time in addition to the OD. Using 5w20 oil Seems quiet...Repairs: Radiator@ 180k B/C Oring leaked coolant, Alt @ 195k, Blower motor plug and resister @ 200k.., Wheel bearing replacements at each wheel once. $400 therabouts total...
Motor Seems like it could go another 250k+ It doesn't leak, drip or even SEEP oil at the gaskets.
Going by performance, relabily of the past, I would trust this car over some cars with only 50k miles on them from some that I have driven.
I would say these Ford are "just" broken in at their milage...
I have been the sole driver for 95% of the milage
Whats yours?

 

[JHZR2]

>250k is getting to be high mileage to me. High mileage does not really mean much in practical terms without seeing the whole situation. You might have a 250k highway cruiser that looks pretty much like new. You could have a severely punished car that just accidentally hit 250k and is in real sorry shape.

While you would expect some parts to have need for replacement, again, IMO it does not mean much...

 

[Roadkingnc]

I have seen ford modulars with 500k+ still going strong

 

[DrDusty86]

I hear "OH 125k is getting up there for that gasser" all the time.... It kills me because I had 3x that on the ranger when I sold it, it was still running like NEW!. I fix things right when they start to fail and not let it turn into a bigger problem. I think With todays gas engines and todays diesels, I think the gas CAN last as long as the diesel with the EPA stuff taking the long life out of the diesels.
My rigs look and run like new.. inside and out as well as mechanically. I kinda want to run the ZX2 just to see how long the motor will last, I'm curious.
350K 450k more? any guesses?

 

[crazyoildude]

ford modulars dont count those engines run a long long time...Some engines are better than others some run great forever and sone dont

 

[DrDusty86]

GM, Chrysler, honda..etc At milage what do YOU consider high milage and why?

 

[qdeezie]

My definition of high mileage depends on the year of the vehicle.........if it's a 2007, 2008 or 2009 for instance with 175,000+ miles, to me that's high mileage.

On the other hand, if it's 2000 for instance with that same 175,000+ miles it's average........but if that 2000 vehicle has over 250,000+ miles, then it falls into the high mileage category.

That's what I consider as high mileage.

 

[surfstar]

If I'm purchasing a vehicle, anything over 100k is 'high'.
For the ones I own, no such thing as 'too high' mileage. With minimal maintenance, I can't see why an engine would fail due to mileage alone.
I've got a '93 Mazda 2.0L w/ 332k on it now. Still beats EPA MPG #'s easily. Runs smooth, last Tbelt I did at 250k and won't do another one. I plan on running it into the ground now. Looking at my maintenance, I haven't really touched anything in the last couple of years, just oil changes. I think I've replaced the wear items already and it should die before they come due again.

 

[ARB1977]

Proper maintenance is key. Ive seen low mile vehicles that i would never touch and some high milage ones 150K plus that are clean as a whistle.

 

[CivicFan]

Reasonably maintained engines would be OK at 200k or more. With cars, it's not the engine, if reasonably maintained, but the rest of the car that are affected by age or miles.

 

[rjundi]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
GM, Chrysler, honda..etc At milage what do YOU consider high milage and why?


Anything with an automatic 150k miles. The fail expensively which is my criteria of high mileage. Also value of vehicle is only 2-3 times the cost of the automatic repair.

 

[mechtech2]

100k used to be a big deal - it sounded like a lot, and it was.

But with regular care, 300k is more like it now - time for real repairs.

BTW, those Ford Zetecs were not the smoothest, but are bullet proof.

 

[sciphi]

Gas engines will outlast the automatic transmissions they're attached to. 150k miles for an AT is about the limit of life for most AT's. There will always be the factory freaks that go 300k miles with infrequent service.

 

[fdcg27]

Originally Posted By: sciphi
Gas engines will outlast the automatic transmissions they're attached to. 150k miles for an AT is about the limit of life for most AT's. There will always be the factory freaks that go 300k miles with infrequent service.


I dunno.
The slushbox in our old Aerostar was still goin' strong at 176K, and I believe demarpaint is still on the original transmission in his Aerostar, which is knockin' on 200K.
We had one 123 diesel to 210K, and the original slushbox was just fine.
We ran the other to 160K, and it also exhibited no problems at all.
No doubt some ATs are better than others, but some are also serviced better than others.
I think that if the average AT were given regular service, and not driven abusively, it would last well past 200K.

 

[CBR.worm]

It varies by vehicle in my mind.

I had a '91 Escort 1.8 GT that I sold with no major repairs (still original clutch) at 196K miles - thiat seemed like high miles. You didn't hear about them making it that far very often - probably becuase they got totalled before they wore out. And the 1.9 liter ford motor that was in the non-GT's had head/head gasket problems. Most people didn't know there was a difference.

I sold my first Tundra with 220K miles and no major repairs, that did not seem like high miles.

The truth is that both were Japanese 4 valve per cylinder motors that probably would have lasted much longer.

 

[sciphi]

I've serviced the AT on my Buick pretty religiously with partial fluid exchanges every 30k miles and a fluid flush or two and it's still a bit of a problem child. Oh well, it is what it is.

I have every expectation the engines in our Buick and Honda will far outlast the rest of the cars.

 

[addyguy]

I'm old-fashioned - I still see anything past about 160k as HM.

Would I drive a car that had more than 160k? Absolutely.

However, often it doesn't make sense to invest the money to keep a car going past 160k, as I found with my 2002 Cavalier.

 

[Norm Olt]

I consider the Lexus "just barely broken in"...

Cheers!

 

[DrDusty86]

I agree With the Comment about the Zetecs not being smooth...They are WORSE than the 4bt cummins IMO. But it has been reliable so far uses no oil, no seepage at gaskets or even the rear main seal..still has the same amount of power as to when I got it 152k ago..Abit NOT much lol..

 

[tig1]

My son sold his 91 Ranger 3.0 last January with 354K and the engine never had the valve covers removed. The engine was still clean and quite and didn't use any more oil when he sold it than when it was new. The Ranger always had Mobil 1 10w30 used in it, and had 10-14K OCIs. However the body was starting to get rough so with much regret sold it for $900.