93 Civic modded as DD
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Civic hatches are ugly. Its beat, no. Maybe for half that price.
Some things to consider when looking at a modified car like that:
-looks like no AC in that one, is that a concern for you?
-It's a modified vehicle which can be a problem when something breaks. There's no manual to refer to.
-With this sort of modified vehicle you have to expect it's been beaten a bit. Does the price reflect this?
-How about wheel alignment? Is there anything on paper showing the wheel alignment is reasonable and won't eat tires entirely too fast for a practical DD?
-How about fuel economy? Was it tuned to guzzle gas? Will emissions be a problem?
-looks like no AC in that one, is that a concern for you?
-It's a modified vehicle which can be a problem when something breaks. There's no manual to refer to.
-With this sort of modified vehicle you have to expect it's been beaten a bit. Does the price reflect this?
-How about wheel alignment? Is there anything on paper showing the wheel alignment is reasonable and won't eat tires entirely too fast for a practical DD?
-How about fuel economy? Was it tuned to guzzle gas? Will emissions be a problem?
If you want a reliable daily driver, buy a stock car that's been owned by a mature adult and comes with a good maintenance history.
If you want to bring your fist pumper buddies to high school once a week because your modified money pit of a Civic is broken the other four days, buy this car.
If you want to bring your fist pumper buddies to high school once a week because your modified money pit of a Civic is broken the other four days, buy this car.
Not just no but HECK NO!! i would no put my bet on it being a good reliable safe DD. if you have time money and patience maybe but i wouldnt have even read passed the second line and i would have personally moved on.
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
If you want a reliable daily driver, buy a stock car that's been owned by a mature adult and comes with a good maintenance history.
If you want to bring your fist pumper buddies to high school once a week because your modified money pit of a Civic is broken the other four days, buy this car.
Not sure seller falls into that category..
I personally built this car and it literally is like new. You can visually inspect it yourself. I have it parked on a fresh concrete slab and not one drip of anything. Doesn't over heat all new seals and gaskets and aftermarket head studs that secure the head better then factory. Clutch kit was installed which includes pilot bearing throwout bearing clutch disk and pressure plate with resurfaced flywheel . It has brand new factory upper control arms and upper ball joints left and right. Lower ball joints left and right. New rack and pinion boot cover. New inner and outter tie rods. New plugs wires cap rotor interior in clean and complete. Exhaust is completely new. One crack in front bumper passenger side. No rust no bondo no problems. No check engine lights no pops or grinds shifting. No smoke no leaks strong battery starts in coldest nights. Along with timing belt water pump was replaced. She is road read. Still inspected for 9 or so months. I'm an adult 37 yr ol mechanic who builds and restores Hondas and old aircooled vws. 4000 takes her firm.
Thank you Richard .
P. s clean title and in my name been registered to me for my private use.
If you want a reliable daily driver, buy a stock car that's been owned by a mature adult and comes with a good maintenance history.
If you want to bring your fist pumper buddies to high school once a week because your modified money pit of a Civic is broken the other four days, buy this car.
Not sure seller falls into that category..
I personally built this car and it literally is like new. You can visually inspect it yourself. I have it parked on a fresh concrete slab and not one drip of anything. Doesn't over heat all new seals and gaskets and aftermarket head studs that secure the head better then factory. Clutch kit was installed which includes pilot bearing throwout bearing clutch disk and pressure plate with resurfaced flywheel . It has brand new factory upper control arms and upper ball joints left and right. Lower ball joints left and right. New rack and pinion boot cover. New inner and outter tie rods. New plugs wires cap rotor interior in clean and complete. Exhaust is completely new. One crack in front bumper passenger side. No rust no bondo no problems. No check engine lights no pops or grinds shifting. No smoke no leaks strong battery starts in coldest nights. Along with timing belt water pump was replaced. She is road read. Still inspected for 9 or so months. I'm an adult 37 yr ol mechanic who builds and restores Hondas and old aircooled vws. 4000 takes her firm.
Thank you Richard .
P. s clean title and in my name been registered to me for my private use.
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This car is a hobby for someone with strong mechanical skills that also needs to impress the girl in his English class by how loud the fartcan is. I can't even come close to picturing an adult driving it.
It's the complete opposite of a reliable daily driver, and I think that most people here will agree. The sort of older, modified, high mileage fast and the furious cars that you're looking at are NOT reliable or practical for a daily driver. Are there no unmodified Civics available in your price range?
If you want a fast and the furious project, get one. If you want dependable transportation, avoid descriptors like built, modded, stage [number], body kit, launch control, JDM, and my personal favorite... lambo doors.
It's the complete opposite of a reliable daily driver, and I think that most people here will agree. The sort of older, modified, high mileage fast and the furious cars that you're looking at are NOT reliable or practical for a daily driver. Are there no unmodified Civics available in your price range?
If you want a fast and the furious project, get one. If you want dependable transportation, avoid descriptors like built, modded, stage [number], body kit, launch control, JDM, and my personal favorite... lambo doors.
Originally Posted By: Chrisfromalbany
Thoughts on this modded 93 Civic?
http://glensfalls.craigslist.org/cto/3442873757.html
For me, there are 2 things makes this car is no-no for DD.
1. Suspension lowered by one and half inch, for Honda more than one inch drop will create uncomfortable ride especially if the road around your area is not smooth like autobahn
2. Stage 2 clutch is quite heavy and harsh for DD, especially if you go for bumper to bumper driving.
Thoughts on this modded 93 Civic?
http://glensfalls.craigslist.org/cto/3442873757.html
For me, there are 2 things makes this car is no-no for DD.
1. Suspension lowered by one and half inch, for Honda more than one inch drop will create uncomfortable ride especially if the road around your area is not smooth like autobahn
2. Stage 2 clutch is quite heavy and harsh for DD, especially if you go for bumper to bumper driving.
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If you want a reliable daily driver, buy a stock car that's been owned by a mature adult and comes with a good maintenance history.
Solid advice.
Not disputing what the owner has attested to, but the amount of "situations" that can occur is substantially higher.
If you want a reliable daily driver, buy a stock car that's been owned by a mature adult and comes with a good maintenance history.
Solid advice.
Not disputing what the owner has attested to, but the amount of "situations" that can occur is substantially higher.
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Personally I have always had a soft spot for this shape Civic.
It certainly has the right parts on it, Exedy and ARP for example, that would indicate it has had some money spent on it.
I would suggest that Bitog isn't the type of forum where people would own such a vehicle or spend money on a similar vehicle to get it to this specification.
The only way you can know if it is any good is by going and driving it.
If there are receipts for the parts and the seller seems plausible, you like this type of car and you have some money spare in case you break it then why not.
It hasn't been lowered that much, most of this shape in the UK rode with a very similar stance.
Some were also lowered so the wheels tucked into the wheelarches and there was excessive rear camber.
It also depends what you consider a DD, my school run for example is 60miles plus a day. Some on here do twice that.
When I still had spare money, and was somewhat younger, I always tried to improve my cars when possible.
So to and test drive it, look at the quality of the workmanship and take a friend along that can take a less emotional view of the car.
If you bought a standard one and modified it to the same spec I suspect it would be an awful lot more money.
It certainly has the right parts on it, Exedy and ARP for example, that would indicate it has had some money spent on it.
I would suggest that Bitog isn't the type of forum where people would own such a vehicle or spend money on a similar vehicle to get it to this specification.
The only way you can know if it is any good is by going and driving it.
If there are receipts for the parts and the seller seems plausible, you like this type of car and you have some money spare in case you break it then why not.
It hasn't been lowered that much, most of this shape in the UK rode with a very similar stance.
Some were also lowered so the wheels tucked into the wheelarches and there was excessive rear camber.
It also depends what you consider a DD, my school run for example is 60miles plus a day. Some on here do twice that.
When I still had spare money, and was somewhat younger, I always tried to improve my cars when possible.
So to and test drive it, look at the quality of the workmanship and take a friend along that can take a less emotional view of the car.
If you bought a standard one and modified it to the same spec I suspect it would be an awful lot more money.
Originally Posted By: kr_bitog
Originally Posted By: Chrisfromalbany
Thoughts on this modded 93 Civic?
http://glensfalls.craigslist.org/cto/3442873757.html
For me, there are 2 things makes this car is no-no for DD.
1. Suspension lowered by one and half inch, for Honda more than one inch drop will create uncomfortable ride especially if the road around your area is not smooth like autobahn
2. Stage 2 clutch is quite heavy and harsh for DD, especially if you go for bumper to bumper driving.
thanks these are views that I can value.
Coming from a WRX that was lowered and modded lightly stage 2 and was a DD. I tend not drive stock cars if i can help it. But dont need another modded VR4 in garaged. lol
Originally Posted By: Chrisfromalbany
Thoughts on this modded 93 Civic?
http://glensfalls.craigslist.org/cto/3442873757.html
For me, there are 2 things makes this car is no-no for DD.
1. Suspension lowered by one and half inch, for Honda more than one inch drop will create uncomfortable ride especially if the road around your area is not smooth like autobahn
2. Stage 2 clutch is quite heavy and harsh for DD, especially if you go for bumper to bumper driving.
thanks these are views that I can value.
Coming from a WRX that was lowered and modded lightly stage 2 and was a DD. I tend not drive stock cars if i can help it. But dont need another modded VR4 in garaged. lol
bigjl, good review thanks..
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I think those that have driven a WRX as a DD might have a different viewpoint with regards acceptable ride quality.
At low urban speeds mine could be a little erm, jiggly!
My Volvo V50 is also a little harder riding than the typical Volvo of year gone by, as it is just a Ford Focus.
But mine is acceptable due to running 16" wheels, they are apparently a lot worse on 18" rims, but do look good.
Let us know if you give the Civic a test drive!
At low urban speeds mine could be a little erm, jiggly!
My Volvo V50 is also a little harder riding than the typical Volvo of year gone by, as it is just a Ford Focus.
But mine is acceptable due to running 16" wheels, they are apparently a lot worse on 18" rims, but do look good.
Let us know if you give the Civic a test drive!
I like the EG civics myself. Owned a few modified ones that I daily drove that were higher hp turbo ones. It all comes down to the quality of parts and how the car was built. I daily drove mine, but always had my winter beater for a backup just in case. Not like the corner parts store will have what you need when something takes a dump.
Then there's all the problems that come with a modified hatch. You'll have people wanting to race you, theft, and standing out to the police. I always drove normal and never really had a problem with law officers. It's all the other ding dongs that rev at you and want to race haha. That's why I ended up selling all my cars and parts. It just got old and what lady wants to ride around in a modified civic (not safe either)?
Let's see what else there is:
-Car is tuned with launch control (Car might need to be retuned for the winter for cold start)
-Internal engine mods (seems like the person did them himself)
-I'm not sure if the engine in there now is obd1 or obd2. There could be the need for a harness adapter/wiring.
I'd just stay away and build up a car like that if you want. Sure it will be expensive compared to someone's project, but it'll be done right.
Then there's all the problems that come with a modified hatch. You'll have people wanting to race you, theft, and standing out to the police. I always drove normal and never really had a problem with law officers. It's all the other ding dongs that rev at you and want to race haha. That's why I ended up selling all my cars and parts. It just got old and what lady wants to ride around in a modified civic (not safe either)?
Let's see what else there is:
-Car is tuned with launch control (Car might need to be retuned for the winter for cold start)
-Internal engine mods (seems like the person did them himself)
-I'm not sure if the engine in there now is obd1 or obd2. There could be the need for a harness adapter/wiring.
I'd just stay away and build up a car like that if you want. Sure it will be expensive compared to someone's project, but it'll be done right.
I think you should look at it and drive it and let us know how it went. The good thing is the you have a lot of new parts. I've replaced numerous on my car which is newer than the hatch.
Its more risky than stock and a little pricey for the age but if it is what you like and can afford I say go take a look!
Its more risky than stock and a little pricey for the age but if it is what you like and can afford I say go take a look!
IMO, if you are buying this car you should be as comfortable as the current owner is turning a wrench on it. While the Honda/Acura drivetrain should be reliable in theory, it is still a transplant and it has mods on it.
At the end of the day, it is a "frankencar". Acura drivetrain in a Honda shell. All sorts of aftermarket parts elsewhere. If you can't work on it, do you have a place to bring it to that can deal with it? You would probably need a tuner friendly shop that knows Honda and Acura as a speciality.
At the end of the day, it is a "frankencar". Acura drivetrain in a Honda shell. All sorts of aftermarket parts elsewhere. If you can't work on it, do you have a place to bring it to that can deal with it? You would probably need a tuner friendly shop that knows Honda and Acura as a speciality.
This car appears to have been built by someone who actually knows what he's doing, rather than someone who used a mod parts catalog as a guide.
This car would probably also be a better bet than the Audi you posted about.
I'd call the guy, arrange a test drive and talk to the guy a while.
From the CL post, this guy does appear to be competent, and while he wants to move the car, you might find him pretty honest.
Such combinations of honesty and competence do exist, even on CL.
This car would probably also be a better bet than the Audi you posted about.
I'd call the guy, arrange a test drive and talk to the guy a while.
From the CL post, this guy does appear to be competent, and while he wants to move the car, you might find him pretty honest.
Such combinations of honesty and competence do exist, even on CL.
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