What airline and was this out of CLE?
737 max... what now?
- Thread starter Tdog02
- Start date
- Status
Southwest... It was a 2-leg flight, so the MAX was from SAN to MDW I believe it was... Then MDW-CLE was on the -700.
Not the news the Seattle area wanted to hear but it has been in the cards for some time now.
Especially with U.S pilots.
Supposedly Emirates, Ethiad or Singapore Airlines wasn’t happy with the quality of the 787-10s they got and told Boeing to fix their planes. And EK/SQ/EY are also important Airbus customers - and the A350 might be what they order instead of the 787-10 if things improve.
edyvw
$50 site donor 2025
As far as I know complaints were specifically about quality from SC plant.
But, Boeing needs to lower cost, and that is what they are doing.
That might mean no more 787s and they will just default their new aircraft purchases to Airbus.
Boeing is in shambles and they are responsible for everything non Covid related due to the poor quality, manufacturing defects, Air Force unhappy with the FOD in new tankers / refusing to accept new tankers, 737 MAX mess, high ranking executives being hush hush and playing dumb leaving with golden parachutes while MBAs ran the company into the ground, etc....
William Boeing is rolling in his grave at what has become of what was once the most well respected and flagship aviation company in the world.
Last edited:
Boeing was always known as an engineering-first company. I think that left the day Alan Mulally left the company to right the ship at Ford(before that ran aground with Jim Hackett). Many CxOs and MBAs are clueless when it comes to actually running a business. They paid too much to wine and dine after looking at pre-digested reports in Excel or Salesforce.high ranking executives being hush hush and playing dumb leaving with golden parachutes while MBAs ran the company into the ground, etc....
William Boeing is rolling in his grave at what has become of what was once the most well respected and flagship aviation company in the world.
From what I heard from a FA on Southwest, their union wants WN to consider the A320 when it comes time for a major fleet refresh. However, WN is an important customer to Boeing.
According to this article (have to pay to see the whole thing) Boeing has recently considered another generation 737 beyond the MAX. I’m guessing to focus on range increases? The A321LR and XLR put the 737 MAX 10 to shame on range. 3,300 NM on the MAX 10 vs. 4,700 NM on the 321XLR with similar seating capacity.
https://theaircurrent.com/aircraft-...s-vaporware-but-5g-max-revamp-comes-to-light/
https://theaircurrent.com/aircraft-...s-vaporware-but-5g-max-revamp-comes-to-light/
If I was Boeing, I’d look past stretching the 737 Max and focus on its replacement as well as the NMA project. The 737 has hit its physical limits - hence why the MCAS was implemented with the slightly bigger engines that barely cleared the physical envelope of the old CFM56-3B/7B on the 300-500 and NG(700-900) variants.
Agreed, if it turned out to be a marketing issue, which is unlikely, they would simply give it a new name.
737 + 60 ?
They are considering a new aircraft. It might not be what you are thinking of.
https://airwaysmag.com/industry/boeing/boeing-considers-new-nma-airplane/
That is a considerably larger airliner which could carry 250 to 300 passengers. It seems targeted to replace the 757.
The article is poorly written. I was looking at the second paragraph. It does show that Boeing is considering these new aircraft but the big question of course is when.
edyvw
$50 site donor 2025
Everything will be moved 5 years, at least.
Airlines have been asking for the NMA to replace the 757 for years now. Boeing's dragged their feet, and at this point, the market for the NMA may be dwindled as airlines are parking/retiring their 757s and 767s and finding new ways to operate without them. The current climate has not only accelerated airlines planes with these fleets (I know American was planning on operating the 757 for at least another 4 years), but it's put everyone in a poor financial position which, to edyvw's point, will push timelines for new A/C back for years to come.
In other news, expect the MAX's grounding to be removed shortly. I've heard sometime this week and I've heard sometime shortly after Thanksgiving. Either way, it should be soon, now. We are planning for the MAX to embark on its first scheduled flight in January. I don't know if that's going to be a passenger flight, or media only. I just know that they are planning for it to happen sometime early January.
In other news, expect the MAX's grounding to be removed shortly. I've heard sometime this week and I've heard sometime shortly after Thanksgiving. Either way, it should be soon, now. We are planning for the MAX to embark on its first scheduled flight in January. I don't know if that's going to be a passenger flight, or media only. I just know that they are planning for it to happen sometime early January.
Approval to fly the 737MAX
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/business/boeing-737-max-approval/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/business/boeing-737-max-approval/index.html
- Status
Similar threads
