5W30 and STP oil treatment

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which viscosity would this leave me with.
I'm looking for extra protection and stp has lots of zinc and moly. Open to oppinion, and other products.
 
IMHO STP oil supplement = yuck!

Again, I don't have a problem if someone insists in using it in their mosquito-fogging vehicle (*grin*), just not me thank you very much.


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STP oil supplement = yuck! ?
did you get this oppinion because it is "snake oil" or that it has a high viscocity? (just wondering)
 
If you insist on STP use the red bottle (4 cyl treatment) as it isn't near as thick as the blue bottle. There is a VOA of the red bottle here, but compare it to VSOT and the VSOT is much better stuff and also has zddp along with a lot of other goodies.

But unless you have a special case (high performance engine for example) you should be fine with off-the-shelf oil.
 
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Yes, I used it (blue can/plastic bottle) in my cousin's Chevette back in the college days to soup up his smoking engine (try pouring that into the crankcase in -27F!!). No offense to "soup mix" folks who likes to add VSOT, etc. but my take is that granted that properly rated motor oil with balanced additive chemistry already work it's miracles when used in a mechanically-sound engine, why add "AssTeePee"??

that also reminded me of a mech friend of ours (actually, he is a small craft pilot who used to fly with my wife together...) who insisted in dumping a bottle of "motor hunny" into any smoking engine just to impress his customers. 3ks down the road the the smoke came back again.

My thoughts on this subject. YMMV.

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few year back Consumer Reports did a thing on Oil and found that on a 5QT system it made the oil a 10W-40.

Save the cash and just pour in 10W-40.
 
I'll chime in.

I spoke with one of the Product Managers at Clorox (which owns the STP brand) and asked him what the product did and what it was for. While he alluded to benefits that people "believed" they got, the only provable change the product imparts is a measurable increase in viscosity.

Not consistent, not predictable, just measurable. Results varied depending on base oil formulations and weights mixed in. So you would see a bigger move in, say, 5w20 than you would in 20w50 for example, and different results between conventional and synthetic, brand to brand, etc.

If you don't think your basic oil viscosity selection is correct, it will be cheaper and more predictable to just choose a higher viscosity range.

For the grey beards that remember, some of the early multi-vis oils were pretty poor. In those days, a shot of STP into a crankcase about halfway through a change interval (or to stretch one a little because you didn't have time/money to do a proper change) was a viable product benefit. These days, most oils (and engines!)are so good that an additive like STP adds no value.
 
that's why i'm adding a bottle of SLOB at 3k in the galant

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Back in the 60's and early 70's, I always used Quaker State Super Blend in 10W-20W40. and no oil change was complete without adding a can of STP. When Mobil 1 came out in the mid 70's advertising one year or 25,000 mile oil change intervals, I switched over to it and went on a yearly oil change regime until I retired about 5 years ago and my yearly driving mileage came down from 18,000 to 20,000 miles a year to about 6000 a year. I also quit using any oil additives then(when I began using M1), and have not used any in more than 30 years. Since I have gone to 6000 miles a year, I use conventional, most any brand, changed twice a year.

Bu the way, in the 30 years I used M1 in my cars, OCI one year, there was never a lubrication problem and my engines were always as quiet when they had as much as 140,000 miles on them as when new. I always wondered, when they came out with Mobil 1 Extended Performance, just what they had done to it to make it only good for 15,000 miles; now, since it is not really a true synthetic in the old sense, I guess we know.
 
If you're adding stp for moly and zinc, I'd just pick oils are already blended with it like Chevron and Havoline or even HDEOs.
 
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few year back Consumer Reports did a thing on Oil and found that on a 5QT system it made the oil a 10W-40.

Save the cash and just pour in 10W-40.




I agree, don't put that stuff in your engine, just use the heavier oil. I also used to use STP and all it ever did was #@$%! up the engine.
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VSOT is the real deal, but dont add too much. the bottle is 13oz, but the "recommended dose" seems to be 1oz per quart of oil.

that will bring boron up by 33ppm and moly up by 73ppm.

it will also increase magnesium, but cause a slight drop in calcium. the drop in Ca is not a problem because the increase in magnesium does the job.

if your oil is right at the 30wt level (11.0cst) then expect it to be at a 32wt after adding VSOT.
 
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