Would it make a big difference or do any harm if I were to run 5W-20 in a vehicle that the manual calls for 5w30. Its a 2006 Saturn Ion with the 2.2L Ecotec. Excellent motor and I want to get a definitive answer before I make a big mistake. Walmart has been selling Motorcraft sync blend 5W-20 in 5 quart jugs near me for like $11-12. Been using it in my wife's 08 Sportage because the book says either 5W-20 or 30 is fine to use.
5w-30 or 5w-20??
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If it is still in warranty, I would run a 5w30, if its out of warranty, your engine will most likely not know the difference. Choose whatever you can acquire at the best price.
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Originally Posted By: froggy81500
Would it make a big difference or do any harm if I were to run 5W-20 in a vehicle that the manual calls for 5w30. Its a 2006 Saturn Ion with the 2.2L Ecotec. Excellent motor and I want to get a definitive answer before I make a big mistake. Walmart has been selling Motorcraft sync blend 5W-20 in 5 quart jugs near me for like $11-12. Been using it in my wife's 08 Sportage because the book says either 5W-20 or 30 is fine to use.
LOL, are you the same guy that Charlie kicked off of Saturnfans a while back? Your nick looks familiar.
Would it make a big difference or do any harm if I were to run 5W-20 in a vehicle that the manual calls for 5w30. Its a 2006 Saturn Ion with the 2.2L Ecotec. Excellent motor and I want to get a definitive answer before I make a big mistake. Walmart has been selling Motorcraft sync blend 5W-20 in 5 quart jugs near me for like $11-12. Been using it in my wife's 08 Sportage because the book says either 5W-20 or 30 is fine to use.
LOL, are you the same guy that Charlie kicked off of Saturnfans a while back? Your nick looks familiar.
No idea what a nick is? what is saturnfans?
Nick is short for nickname, saturnfans in a forum for saturn owners.
oh, my internet lingo is a bit rusty. Can't say I've ever seen saturn fans. Been on a couple other car forums with this same screenname though.
anybody got a link to the library of VOA's? Last time I was looking at it it hadn't been updated in quite awhile. I'd stick with Havoline but lately I haven't been seeing it around here. No idea why.
anybody got a link to the library of VOA's? Last time I was looking at it it hadn't been updated in quite awhile. I'd stick with Havoline but lately I haven't been seeing it around here. No idea why.
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Originally Posted By: froggy81500
oh, my internet lingo is a bit rusty. Can't say I've ever seen saturn fans. Been on a couple other car forums with this same screenname though.
anybody got a link to the library of VOA's? Last time I was looking at it it hadn't been updated in quite awhile. I'd stick with Havoline but lately I haven't been seeing it around here. No idea why.
Heh...riiiight. OK.
oh, my internet lingo is a bit rusty. Can't say I've ever seen saturn fans. Been on a couple other car forums with this same screenname though.
anybody got a link to the library of VOA's? Last time I was looking at it it hadn't been updated in quite awhile. I'd stick with Havoline but lately I haven't been seeing it around here. No idea why.
Heh...riiiight. OK.
Originally Posted By: Familyguy
Originally Posted By: froggy81500
oh, my internet lingo is a bit rusty. Can't say I've ever seen saturn fans. Been on a couple other car forums with this same screenname though.
anybody got a link to the library of VOA's? Last time I was looking at it it hadn't been updated in quite awhile. I'd stick with Havoline but lately I haven't been seeing it around here. No idea why.
Heh...riiiight. OK.
Ok so did you chime in to actually bother to give me suggestions about oil, since this is an oil forum, or did you just butt in here because you think I'm somebody from another forum that I am not?
Never heard of saturn forums or whatever the [censored] it is.
Originally Posted By: froggy81500
oh, my internet lingo is a bit rusty. Can't say I've ever seen saturn fans. Been on a couple other car forums with this same screenname though.
anybody got a link to the library of VOA's? Last time I was looking at it it hadn't been updated in quite awhile. I'd stick with Havoline but lately I haven't been seeing it around here. No idea why.
Heh...riiiight. OK.
Ok so did you chime in to actually bother to give me suggestions about oil, since this is an oil forum, or did you just butt in here because you think I'm somebody from another forum that I am not?
Never heard of saturn forums or whatever the [censored] it is.
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Originally Posted By: Familyguy
Yes, I just butt in for grins. But to answer your question, MC 5W-20 synthetic blend should be fine in the ecotec engine, especially in upstate NY.
I'm not in Upstate.
I see I'm wasting my time being jerked around. Asked a simple question, not an interrogation over whatever websites you think I've been on or where I'm from.
Yes, I just butt in for grins. But to answer your question, MC 5W-20 synthetic blend should be fine in the ecotec engine, especially in upstate NY.
I'm not in Upstate.
I see I'm wasting my time being jerked around. Asked a simple question, not an interrogation over whatever websites you think I've been on or where I'm from.
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Originally Posted By: Familyguy
LOL. You doth protest too much, sir.
It's fine in downstate NY too.
what is your obsession with where I live? I've reported this to the mods because its none of your business.
LOL. You doth protest too much, sir.
It's fine in downstate NY too.
what is your obsession with where I live? I've reported this to the mods because its none of your business.
Wow, I'm from NY and have asked people what part of NY they're from (friendly thing), I live on LI.
Anyway to your question: I've used 5W20 in an old Ford engine back spec'd from a 5w30 to a 5W20, it actually is running better and using less oil than before. I currently mixed up 5W20 and 5W30 to get rid of some left over qts I had. If your car is under a warranty I would stick to whatever the OM calls for. If not give the 5W20 a try this winter and see how it works for you, if you like it give it a shot year round. JMO
Anyway to your question: I've used 5W20 in an old Ford engine back spec'd from a 5w30 to a 5W20, it actually is running better and using less oil than before. I currently mixed up 5W20 and 5W30 to get rid of some left over qts I had. If your car is under a warranty I would stick to whatever the OM calls for. If not give the 5W20 a try this winter and see how it works for you, if you like it give it a shot year round. JMO
For NYC use a 5w30 changed at a reasonable OCI is fine. Now if you're in say, Watertown or Plattsburgh I'd lean towards a synthetic 5w30 or any 5w-20 since it gets much colder in the winter up there.
Originally from Buffalo myself, and down here I tell everybody that I'm from "the rest of New York" since most people assume NYC when I say I'm from New York. Even the other folks with NY tags ask me if I'm from the city or upstate.
Originally from Buffalo myself, and down here I tell everybody that I'm from "the rest of New York" since most people assume NYC when I say I'm from New York. Even the other folks with NY tags ask me if I'm from the city or upstate.
Originally Posted By: sciphi
For NYC use a 5w30 changed at a reasonable OCI is fine. Now if you're in say, Watertown or Plattsburgh I'd lean towards a synthetic 5w30 or any 5w-20 since it gets much colder in the winter up there.
Originally from Buffalo myself, and down here I tell everybody that I'm from "the rest of New York" since most people assume NYC when I say I'm from New York. Even the other folks with NY tags ask me if I'm from the city or upstate.
Heh. Same here...people always assume when I say I'm from New York that I'm from Fort Apache or something.
But maybe next time I'll just say yeah I'm from Da Bronx since there seems to be such a stigma attached to being upstate.
When I lived in Syracuse I always used synthetic 5W-20 in my cars, even when they spec'ed 5w30.
For NYC use a 5w30 changed at a reasonable OCI is fine. Now if you're in say, Watertown or Plattsburgh I'd lean towards a synthetic 5w30 or any 5w-20 since it gets much colder in the winter up there.
Originally from Buffalo myself, and down here I tell everybody that I'm from "the rest of New York" since most people assume NYC when I say I'm from New York. Even the other folks with NY tags ask me if I'm from the city or upstate.
Heh. Same here...people always assume when I say I'm from New York that I'm from Fort Apache or something.
But maybe next time I'll just say yeah I'm from Da Bronx since there seems to be such a stigma attached to being upstate.
When I lived in Syracuse I always used synthetic 5W-20 in my cars, even when they spec'ed 5w30.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Wow, I'm from NY and have asked people what part of NY they're from (friendly thing), I live on LI.
Anyway to your question: I've used 5W20 in an old Ford engine back spec'd from a 5w30 to a 5W20, it actually is running better and using less oil than before. I currently mixed up 5W20 and 5W30 to get rid of some left over qts I had. If your car is under a warranty I would stick to whatever the OM calls for. If not give the 5W20 a try this winter and see how it works for you, if you like it give it a shot year round. JMO
no paranoia and I gave up coffee awhile ago. Its just spooky when somebody online starts focusing on where somebody lives and thinks they are somebody else.
yes, actually I am mid way between Syracuse and Albany. So I am upstate, I only fibbed to try to get you off the topic.
Car is out of warranty. Surpassed the 36K mark quite awhile ago, sometime last year actually. closing in on 60K in less than 1K. I've always been using 5w30 and going by the OLM thus far. Changed my oil this morning with Pennzoil 5w30 regular conventional, which I think I see it referred to as YB (yellow bottle). Friggin' walmart stopped carrying Havoline [censored] it! I started using Havoline a few years back because I read on here it was really good conventional oil.
My concern was using a lighter oil than what its spec'd for and causing any kind of abnormal wear. that's really my main concern. I've read not to use it in motors not spec'd for it. My parents have been buying Honda CRV's for almost 10 years now and those have been running 5W-20 since around 2000 or so, some Fords also. I'm already getting good MPG, around 35 or so in the summer with a 5 spd, so its not why I would look to run 20. Its that the Motorcraft Semi Synthetic is a really good deal.
I looked at a few VOA's comparing 20 and 30 and it seemed the 20 has more moly in it than 30, so I'm guessing that helps with the wear in place of the heavier weight. Kinda new to the chemistry of the oil additive package so don't flame me for seeming off on it. I've picked up a little bit here and there and if you guys can point me to a place here that explains what all of the different things in the additives do, like moly and calcium, that would be extremely helpful.
I have maybe half a quart of the MC 5w-20 leftover from doing my wife's oil a couple months ago so I might top off with it in the Ion whenever I need to, but the Ecotec is [censored] good on oil that I rarely need to top it off. About 1000 miles before I plan on changing the oil I usually toss in a little bit of MMO to keep things clean and my OLM has been running around 7-7500 miles.
Wow, I'm from NY and have asked people what part of NY they're from (friendly thing), I live on LI.
Anyway to your question: I've used 5W20 in an old Ford engine back spec'd from a 5w30 to a 5W20, it actually is running better and using less oil than before. I currently mixed up 5W20 and 5W30 to get rid of some left over qts I had. If your car is under a warranty I would stick to whatever the OM calls for. If not give the 5W20 a try this winter and see how it works for you, if you like it give it a shot year round. JMO
no paranoia and I gave up coffee awhile ago. Its just spooky when somebody online starts focusing on where somebody lives and thinks they are somebody else.
yes, actually I am mid way between Syracuse and Albany. So I am upstate, I only fibbed to try to get you off the topic.
Car is out of warranty. Surpassed the 36K mark quite awhile ago, sometime last year actually. closing in on 60K in less than 1K. I've always been using 5w30 and going by the OLM thus far. Changed my oil this morning with Pennzoil 5w30 regular conventional, which I think I see it referred to as YB (yellow bottle). Friggin' walmart stopped carrying Havoline [censored] it! I started using Havoline a few years back because I read on here it was really good conventional oil.
My concern was using a lighter oil than what its spec'd for and causing any kind of abnormal wear. that's really my main concern. I've read not to use it in motors not spec'd for it. My parents have been buying Honda CRV's for almost 10 years now and those have been running 5W-20 since around 2000 or so, some Fords also. I'm already getting good MPG, around 35 or so in the summer with a 5 spd, so its not why I would look to run 20. Its that the Motorcraft Semi Synthetic is a really good deal.
I looked at a few VOA's comparing 20 and 30 and it seemed the 20 has more moly in it than 30, so I'm guessing that helps with the wear in place of the heavier weight. Kinda new to the chemistry of the oil additive package so don't flame me for seeming off on it. I've picked up a little bit here and there and if you guys can point me to a place here that explains what all of the different things in the additives do, like moly and calcium, that would be extremely helpful.
I have maybe half a quart of the MC 5w-20 leftover from doing my wife's oil a couple months ago so I might top off with it in the Ion whenever I need to, but the Ecotec is [censored] good on oil that I rarely need to top it off. About 1000 miles before I plan on changing the oil I usually toss in a little bit of MMO to keep things clean and my OLM has been running around 7-7500 miles.
Originally Posted By: sciphi
For NYC use a 5w30 changed at a reasonable OCI is fine. Now if you're in say, Watertown or Plattsburgh I'd lean towards a synthetic 5w30 or any 5w-20 since it gets much colder in the winter up there.
Originally from Buffalo myself, and down here I tell everybody that I'm from "the rest of New York" since most people assume NYC when I say I'm from New York. Even the other folks with NY tags ask me if I'm from the city or upstate.
Buffalo, the snow capital! Yes indeed.
See what people do not realize is there are actually 2 NY states, Upstate NY and Downstate NY. anybody who's lived in our state knows this is true and sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off becoming two separate states. Westchester and north everybody pretty much considers Upstate.
For NYC use a 5w30 changed at a reasonable OCI is fine. Now if you're in say, Watertown or Plattsburgh I'd lean towards a synthetic 5w30 or any 5w-20 since it gets much colder in the winter up there.
Originally from Buffalo myself, and down here I tell everybody that I'm from "the rest of New York" since most people assume NYC when I say I'm from New York. Even the other folks with NY tags ask me if I'm from the city or upstate.
Buffalo, the snow capital! Yes indeed.
See what people do not realize is there are actually 2 NY states, Upstate NY and Downstate NY. anybody who's lived in our state knows this is true and sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off becoming two separate states. Westchester and north everybody pretty much considers Upstate.
Originally Posted By: froggy81500
Originally Posted By: Familyguy
Yes, I just butt in for grins. But to answer your question, MC 5W-20 synthetic blend should be fine in the ecotec engine, especially in upstate NY.
I'm not in Upstate.
I see I'm wasting my time being jerked around. Asked a simple question, not an interrogation over whatever websites you think I've been on or where I'm from.
OK, so your hysteria got me interested so I did a simple google search. And lo and behold...
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=froggy81500
A few links down to "saturnfans" and someone who owns a 2006 Ion from "upstate NY". Couldn't be you though. hhehehehe...whatever.
There must be hundreds of froggy81500's around.
Originally Posted By: Familyguy
Yes, I just butt in for grins. But to answer your question, MC 5W-20 synthetic blend should be fine in the ecotec engine, especially in upstate NY.
I'm not in Upstate.
I see I'm wasting my time being jerked around. Asked a simple question, not an interrogation over whatever websites you think I've been on or where I'm from.
OK, so your hysteria got me interested so I did a simple google search. And lo and behold...
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=froggy81500
A few links down to "saturnfans" and someone who owns a 2006 Ion from "upstate NY". Couldn't be you though. hhehehehe...whatever.
There must be hundreds of froggy81500's around.
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