50 year old car 3000 mile drive

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I am driving my 65 Mustang from Canyon, Tx. to Charlotte, Nc. for the 50th aniversary of the Mustang. This is a drive of about 3000 miles round trip. I have been using Mobil 1 0w-40 with a little added ZDDP to get it up to 1200 ppm zinc. My question is this; Should I go with Mobil 1 15w-50 for this long trip or stick with the 0w-40? The 15w 50 has 1200 ppm zinc. My engine was rebuilt in '97 and it has a lot of miles on it.

What is your suggestion

Thanks

Jerry
 
It sounds like either one will suit you fine on the trip. Is the Mustang's engine a high performance outfit with a flat tappet camshaft? If not, I don't see any reason to be concerned about zddp.
 
Nice trip!

What oil viscosity does the owners manual spec? Did the rebuild cause any change in clearances?

I agree with above, I'd be more concerned with wheel bearings and other points of wear, as well as rubber parts.
 
Stick with what is working. On all of my road trips, I typically stay near a freeway meaning I'm pushing higher RPMs before the engine is fully warm, meaning the 0W sounds like a good thing, imho. Just carry a couple of extra quarts for when you check it every morning. Unless you've got monster spring pressures, I bet the advanced additive package of Mobil 1 plus your cam has gotta be plenty broken in, which would would indicate extra ZDDP is barely needed, tho' I understand the approach.

I drove the '63 Ford in my sig with 100,000 on it's motor 2200 miles in June 2011 with cheap SAE 30 my Dad was using and it did great. I am happier with the 40 weight oil pressure when it's warm though.
Enjoy the trip.
Kevin
 
It's not 50 years old yet!! I was born in '65 and I still gotta year to go!!
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Originally Posted By: JLR
I am driving my 65 Mustang from Canyon, Tx. to Charlotte, Nc. for the 50th aniversary of the Mustang. This is a drive of about 3000 miles round trip. I have been using Mobil 1 0w-40 with a little added ZDDP to get it up to 1200 ppm zinc. My question is this; Should I go with Mobil 1 15w-50 for this long trip or stick with the 0w-40? The 15w 50 has 1200 ppm zinc. My engine was rebuilt in '97 and it has a lot of miles on it.

What is your suggestion

Thanks

Jerry


Mobil 1 10W-40 High Mileage was my choice for zinc and moly for flat tappets.
 
Exactly what kind of cam is your 'stang equipped with? If you have a regular model, I doubt your car has a cam that needs extra ZDDP. Did you have a special engine package, or did you install a larger than stock cam?

I would stick to M1 0w40 since you say it does work well in your application.
 
He might have the right idea. Lots of hours on the hwy is going to make for hotter oil than the car is used to, unless he has an OD trans. Most old cars are running in the 3Ks at 70.

I'd carry a trunk full of parts.

belts, hoses, fuel pump, coil, fluids, etc.
 
Say your good with math. The car was manufactured on June 30, 1964, so were are 3months from 50.
 
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Exactly what kind of cam is your 'stang equipped with? If you have a regular model, I doubt your car has a cam that needs extra ZDDP. Did you have a special engine package, or did you install a larger than stock cam?

I would stick to M1 0w40 since you say it does work well in your application.


The cam is stock.
 
Originally Posted By: JLR
I am driving my 65 Mustang from Canyon, Tx. to Charlotte, Nc. for the 50th aniversary of the Mustang. This is a drive of about 3000 miles round trip. I have been using Mobil 1 0w-40 with a little added ZDDP to get it up to 1200 ppm zinc. My question is this; Should I go with Mobil 1 15w-50 for this long trip or stick with the 0w-40? The 15w 50 has 1200 ppm zinc. My engine was rebuilt in '97 and it has a lot of miles on it.

What is your suggestion

Thanks

Jerry


Jerry I have not tried it yet but would be an ideal distance to rebuild all of then engines wear/stress surfaces with something like Archoil AR9300 ceramic coating.

Archoil AR9300

I have tried the Ceratec nanoceramic coating from Liquid Moly and on tear down could see/feel the glass like bearing surface created after idling the engine for 11 hours with the Liquid Moly Ceratec added to the motor oil.

I just learned about nano technology in lubrication a few months ago and got too busy to do all the research and testing that I hope to do in the future.

The test engine is a 325 cc Polaris ATV engine with a bad crank due to the prior owner blowing an oil cooler line and spinning the rod insert due to running it at high speed with no engine oil in it. All I did was hit the crank (still in the case) with emery cloth and replaced the rod with a used one and new Standard size inserts. After I started getting on the engine after 10 hours of idling it started to knock again but with that run time I was able to prove to myself the claims that Liquid Moly makes for their Ceratec nano ceramic coating for internal engine parts.

While the rough and I expect out of round rod bearing crank surface did start to eat into the bearing insert there is no way it would have rotated the 1,000,000 revolutions without the ceramic additive I am sure.

I did not know about the Archoil AR9300 at the time which I think may be better than Ceratec but the Ceratec proved the effectiveness of nano ceramic technology in my mind.
 
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