Whats the deal? Called the Purolator Hot Line. Asked it I could run a pure one for 6 months or 3,000 miles on my Toyota Tacoma a 2011 4x4. The y said no. They are good for only 3 months or 3,000 miles.
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They want your money. I'd change it as often as your oil if you change your oil at 5 months do your filter then to. It would be fine for 6 months and 3,000 I personally wouldnt go longer not because you couldn't but to me oil and filters are cheap enough that I do it whenever I'm bored or 5,000 although I am using Mobil1 now so I may go a little longer. Id say not to go longer than 5months or 5000 miles that seems like a decent compromise.
I change my oil and filter once a year with mobil 1 ep and a pure one filter. Never had any problem. Besides not having any oil pressure, how would you know a filter is not doing it's job?.,,
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Same reason they say 3000 miles or 3 months for an oil change.
1. To cover themselves from getting sued
2. Because they make more profit if you buy more filters/oil
I wouldn't go over a year or 10k miles with a Pureone though. High fuel dilution and moisture in the oil from sitting or from short trip driving can deteriorate the filter media so use your best judgment based on your driving habits.
1. To cover themselves from getting sued
2. Because they make more profit if you buy more filters/oil
I wouldn't go over a year or 10k miles with a Pureone though. High fuel dilution and moisture in the oil from sitting or from short trip driving can deteriorate the filter media so use your best judgment based on your driving habits.
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Yeah, but I've done 4K on a Puro CLASSIC with no problem-why wouldn't a P1 be good until the OLM indicates it needs to be changed??
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Yeah, but I've done 4K on a Puro CLASSIC with no problem-why wouldn't a P1 be good until the OLM indicates it needs to be changed??
The quote below is from the Purolator website - note the part in red:
"Purolator PureONE oil filters should be replaced every 3,000 miles or 3 months depending on the driving conditions - or unless otherwise specified by the vehicle's manufacturer."
For example, the C5 Corvette owner's manual says to change oil and filter every year or when the OLM gets to 0% - which ever one occurs first - then Purolator is saying that their filters will do that. The "3 months or 3000 miles" is a super CYA if there is no other vehicle manufactures maintenance direction.
See at the bottom of the page in this link:
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/products/oil_filters/Pages/pureoneoilfilters.aspx
Yeah, but I've done 4K on a Puro CLASSIC with no problem-why wouldn't a P1 be good until the OLM indicates it needs to be changed??
The quote below is from the Purolator website - note the part in red:
"Purolator PureONE oil filters should be replaced every 3,000 miles or 3 months depending on the driving conditions - or unless otherwise specified by the vehicle's manufacturer."
For example, the C5 Corvette owner's manual says to change oil and filter every year or when the OLM gets to 0% - which ever one occurs first - then Purolator is saying that their filters will do that. The "3 months or 3000 miles" is a super CYA if there is no other vehicle manufactures maintenance direction.
See at the bottom of the page in this link:
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/products/oil_filters/Pages/pureoneoilfilters.aspx
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Originally Posted By: addyguy
I'm sure the Toyota rec. is either 5,000/7,500 miles OR 6 months, whatever comes first.
Very few, if any manufacturers are 3-month intervals anymore.
If you use 0w-20 Toyota's new recommendation is 1year/10k miles on 2011 and newer
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I'm sure the Toyota rec. is either 5,000/7,500 miles OR 6 months, whatever comes first.
Very few, if any manufacturers are 3-month intervals anymore.
If you use 0w-20 Toyota's new recommendation is 1year/10k miles on 2011 and newer
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Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
I change my oil and filter once a year with mobil 1 ep and a pure one filter. Never had any problem. Besides not having any oil pressure, how would you know a filter is not doing it's job?.,,
If the oil pressure clogs it goes into bypass and your oil pressure if still fine.
I change my oil and filter once a year with mobil 1 ep and a pure one filter. Never had any problem. Besides not having any oil pressure, how would you know a filter is not doing it's job?.,,
If the oil pressure clogs it goes into bypass and your oil pressure if still fine.
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Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
I change my oil and filter once a year with mobil 1 ep and a pure one filter. Never had any problem. Besides not having any oil pressure, how would you know a filter is not doing it's job?.,,
If the oil pressure clogs it goes into bypass and your oil pressure if still fine.
You would probably see some decrease in oil pressure at higher engine RPM, depending on if the bypass valve could handle the same flow volume. If the the bypass valve was way under sized, it would choke some oil flow volume, which would show up as less oil pressure down stream of the filter.
This is why people cut open their filters. If a filter is inspected after 10K miles of use, and it looks pretty clean and not much debris build-up, then you know your engine is not producing much contamination and can feel comfortable about the filter and OCI you're using.
Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
I change my oil and filter once a year with mobil 1 ep and a pure one filter. Never had any problem. Besides not having any oil pressure, how would you know a filter is not doing it's job?.,,
If the oil pressure clogs it goes into bypass and your oil pressure if still fine.
You would probably see some decrease in oil pressure at higher engine RPM, depending on if the bypass valve could handle the same flow volume. If the the bypass valve was way under sized, it would choke some oil flow volume, which would show up as less oil pressure down stream of the filter.
This is why people cut open their filters. If a filter is inspected after 10K miles of use, and it looks pretty clean and not much debris build-up, then you know your engine is not producing much contamination and can feel comfortable about the filter and OCI you're using.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
"Purolator PureONE oil filters should be replaced every 3,000 miles or 3 months depending on the driving conditions - or unless otherwise specified by the vehicle's manufacturer."
+1 I've emailed and called the new "Purolator Response Office" regarding this specific issue. I also threw in the question, 'will using the P1 or Classic oil filter as vehicle manufacturer recommended maintain the warranty'? The CSR said YES, but still he recommended changing the filter changing every 3-4K miles. Say What?
I like Purolator oil filters but think the folks they have manning the PRO are doing a disservice by not following and repeating the website's recommendation "or unless otherwise specified by the vehicle manufacturer". In other words whatever the OEM filter will do, the P1/Classic can also easily and safely do.
So use the P1/Classic with confidence as vehicle recommended, and ignore the folks answering the phones and emails at the Response Office.
"Purolator PureONE oil filters should be replaced every 3,000 miles or 3 months depending on the driving conditions - or unless otherwise specified by the vehicle's manufacturer."
+1 I've emailed and called the new "Purolator Response Office" regarding this specific issue. I also threw in the question, 'will using the P1 or Classic oil filter as vehicle manufacturer recommended maintain the warranty'? The CSR said YES, but still he recommended changing the filter changing every 3-4K miles. Say What?
I like Purolator oil filters but think the folks they have manning the PRO are doing a disservice by not following and repeating the website's recommendation "or unless otherwise specified by the vehicle manufacturer". In other words whatever the OEM filter will do, the P1/Classic can also easily and safely do.
So use the P1/Classic with confidence as vehicle recommended, and ignore the folks answering the phones and emails at the Response Office.
I'm surprised by the comments here. I was thinking a PureONE could do 1 year easy ...
do you believe them if thats true Dont use their filters....any filter is good for 5000 miles minimum
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I'm surprised by the comments here. I was thinking a PureONE could do 1 year easy ...
It can. My Vette says to change oil and filter once a year or when the OLM says 0% ... whichever comes first. Well, Purolator says that their filters can meet the vehicle maker's schedule. The 3 month, 3000 miles is an "Uber CYA Statement" to be used when there isn't another schedule to go by from the vehicle maker.
I'm surprised by the comments here. I was thinking a PureONE could do 1 year easy ...
It can. My Vette says to change oil and filter once a year or when the OLM says 0% ... whichever comes first. Well, Purolator says that their filters can meet the vehicle maker's schedule. The 3 month, 3000 miles is an "Uber CYA Statement" to be used when there isn't another schedule to go by from the vehicle maker.
Well, I have a P1 that's just over a year old and it's headed towards at least a 2 year OCI. I guess I'm doomed.
Uber CYA... yeah I'd say so. That recommendation could be interpreted either as totally ridiculous or maybe they know something about P1s that we don't and we should quit using them.
Uber CYA... yeah I'd say so. That recommendation could be interpreted either as totally ridiculous or maybe they know something about P1s that we don't and we should quit using them.
I have every intention of continuing to use the P1 'as vehicle manufacturer recommended', just as the OR statement on the website, says in black and white.
I've already used P1's to the 1year Honda max twice, ~7k each time. The dissected PL14610's looked great, and I continue to use with confidence.
Again, it's unfortunate and a disservice the PRO rep(s) is/are choosing to ignore the 'complete' website statement in favor of the 3k/3m CYA half statement.
Also, the PRO rep also told me on the phone that ALL filters should changed at the same 3k/3m interval, and that it was only that synthetic oil that was allowing for slightly longer oci's. That's when I knew he was not authoritative and seemingly just trying to sell more filters. I then emailed a Purolator engineer directly, but received no response.
Fwiw, as a mini experiment, I'm currently running a Puro made Bosch D+ and intend to run it two OCI's as Honda recommended in a 3.0L Accord. I do so with confidence.
I've already used P1's to the 1year Honda max twice, ~7k each time. The dissected PL14610's looked great, and I continue to use with confidence.
Again, it's unfortunate and a disservice the PRO rep(s) is/are choosing to ignore the 'complete' website statement in favor of the 3k/3m CYA half statement.
Also, the PRO rep also told me on the phone that ALL filters should changed at the same 3k/3m interval, and that it was only that synthetic oil that was allowing for slightly longer oci's. That's when I knew he was not authoritative and seemingly just trying to sell more filters. I then emailed a Purolator engineer directly, but received no response.
Fwiw, as a mini experiment, I'm currently running a Puro made Bosch D+ and intend to run it two OCI's as Honda recommended in a 3.0L Accord. I do so with confidence.
It's that type of phone drivel that can turn me off to a company real fast. Wake Purolator, I'm sure others might be feeling the same way too. JMO
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Fwiw, as a mini experiment, I'm currently running a Puro made Bosch D+ and intend to run it two OCI's as Honda recommended in a 3.0L Accord. I do so with confidence.
Yeah, you should have no problem doing 2 OCIs with the Bosch DP.
Fwiw, as a mini experiment, I'm currently running a Puro made Bosch D+ and intend to run it two OCI's as Honda recommended in a 3.0L Accord. I do so with confidence.
Yeah, you should have no problem doing 2 OCIs with the Bosch DP.
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