not much, you could scrape a finger nail in the depths of the pleats after stretching out the media and come up with some stuff. looking at the media it had a "dirty" appearance. but not sludge covered.
3 ARX cycles, didn't do much, bummer..
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Sarge you nailed it.
mdocod private e-mail sent to you before i read your post think your questions are fair. Would believe my e-mail would seem sensible and fair to you.
Your screen name cracks me up...I love that movie....
Anyway....you dad gum right! This is exactly why we run 4-5oz's of AutoRX in race engines. Keep the ring packs absolutely clean....no we are not fighting sludge nor trying to shave by our reflection off of our valve train assembly....bottom end lubrication and ring packs...compression makes internal combustion engines happy happy.....I wonder what the two Bob's would say about AutoRX?
My last post on this::
""photos os this engine before and after Auto-Rx show definite improvment."""
LOL
bruce
""photos os this engine before and after Auto-Rx show definite improvment."""
LOL
bruce
We seem to be getting a lot of posts where it appears Auto-RX did not successfully clean an engine. I welcome these posts. I believe in Auto-RX myself but if there is evidence that Auto-RX does not always succeed in cleaning an engine we need to knoe about those examples.
However, people must follow the directions for Auto-RX to work. Synthetic oil should not be used during the so-called rinse cycle. It fact, when I do an Auto-RX cleaning I use conventional motor oil for both the cleaning and rinse cycles. I like to use Valvoline oil for these myself.
Some engines may be so sludged up that Auto-RX (or anything else for that matter) may not be able to remove the sludge.
However, people must follow the directions for Auto-RX to work. Synthetic oil should not be used during the so-called rinse cycle. It fact, when I do an Auto-RX cleaning I use conventional motor oil for both the cleaning and rinse cycles. I like to use Valvoline oil for these myself.
Some engines may be so sludged up that Auto-RX (or anything else for that matter) may not be able to remove the sludge.
i pulled the PCV valve on my civic with 111k miles. she has had 3-4k OCI's with dino or HM oils since about 10k.
MAY run an ARX cycle, but was just wondering, since the PCV was UGLY (aka sludgy), think the rest of the motor is too?
MAY run an ARX cycle, but was just wondering, since the PCV was UGLY (aka sludgy), think the rest of the motor is too?
let me rephrase, "i changed the PCV valve tonight"
I think it should be publicly known, that I received an email from Frank shortly after placing an order for some more ARX. He is doubling my order (paid for 2, he's sending me 4 no extra charge). This should give me more than enough ARX to really give this engine a good cleansing. I'm going to go full out ST 5w30 dino.
Thank you Frank. That's more than fair. I really appreciate it. I'm excited to get some more miles rolling. I hope you don't mind me sharing this with everyone. I think it's important for folks to know that you are a great guy with a great product and great company!
I recently finally got around to fixing the rear diff in my rodeo, so I've been driving it a lot, but once 16mpg gets old again (it will in a hurry, lol) I'll start using the Swift again primarily.
I'm going to manually clean off the valve cover itself, but I think I will leave most of the deposits on the valve train alone. I hate the idea of disturbing it, or dropping a big clump down a drain hole or something. Summer is around the corner, so things should get plenty hot through the next few cycles... I'll keep taking picts, cut open some more filters. Hopefully my next LONG thread will have some good news!.
Thank you Frank. That's more than fair. I really appreciate it. I'm excited to get some more miles rolling. I hope you don't mind me sharing this with everyone. I think it's important for folks to know that you are a great guy with a great product and great company!
I recently finally got around to fixing the rear diff in my rodeo, so I've been driving it a lot, but once 16mpg gets old again (it will in a hurry, lol) I'll start using the Swift again primarily.
I'm going to manually clean off the valve cover itself, but I think I will leave most of the deposits on the valve train alone. I hate the idea of disturbing it, or dropping a big clump down a drain hole or something. Summer is around the corner, so things should get plenty hot through the next few cycles... I'll keep taking picts, cut open some more filters. Hopefully my next LONG thread will have some good news!.
When there are deposits of that magnitude, there is no substitute for cleaning it manually.
Period.
nope, not on the civic yet, just the galant.
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might do an ARX on the civic this summer, only one cycle though.
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might do an ARX on the civic this summer, only one cycle though.
I had a 79 T-Bird with a 302 that looked alot like your engine(Pre-AutoRX)
Ended up cleaning it the old fashioned way..
(Carb cleaner/scraper/screwdriver)
I straightened out a wire coathanger and opened up the oil returns/passages I could.
Changed the oil/PCV, valve cover gaskets and drove it.
Turned out much cleaner after 2 oil changes.
Might have to get out your rags and get the elbow grease going!!!
Bob
Ended up cleaning it the old fashioned way..
(Carb cleaner/scraper/screwdriver)
I straightened out a wire coathanger and opened up the oil returns/passages I could.
Changed the oil/PCV, valve cover gaskets and drove it.
Turned out much cleaner after 2 oil changes.
Might have to get out your rags and get the elbow grease going!!!
Bob
Please cut open the filters and post pics on these subsequent cycles.
Personally, with that many sludge, as stated before, the engine have a poor design. With that in mind, personally, I think you need more than 3 treatments or do a manual cleaning on the sludge that is visible. Then start 1 or 2 auto-rx cycle to get to the places that was not seen.
It is like this:
If you have cancer, you can do 1 of 2 things or both -- surgery and/or chemotherapy. In most cases, doctors will do both. The results is besides the point. The surgery in this case is manual cleaning of visible sludges and the chemo is auto-rx.
Unfortunately, not everything is designed to clean everything. It can help. IMO, in the 3rd picture, there are some improvement already. You said that subsequent cleaning with MMO, Seafoam, etc. has yielded no results.
What is the mileage and how old is the car when the ARX was started? My deduction is that the car is around 7 years. It is not microwave.
Did you consult with Frank about it? In these type of extreme, you may want to consult with some sort of expert. Consider it like the Oncologist if you have cancer. You know you cannot do a self treatment even if you are an oncologist.
It is like this:
If you have cancer, you can do 1 of 2 things or both -- surgery and/or chemotherapy. In most cases, doctors will do both. The results is besides the point. The surgery in this case is manual cleaning of visible sludges and the chemo is auto-rx.
Unfortunately, not everything is designed to clean everything. It can help. IMO, in the 3rd picture, there are some improvement already. You said that subsequent cleaning with MMO, Seafoam, etc. has yielded no results.
What is the mileage and how old is the car when the ARX was started? My deduction is that the car is around 7 years. It is not microwave.
Did you consult with Frank about it? In these type of extreme, you may want to consult with some sort of expert. Consider it like the Oncologist if you have cancer. You know you cannot do a self treatment even if you are an oncologist.
It is because AutoRX is WAY overrated here - I have tried it in 3 different cars with little to no effect.
I have used 2 Rislone OCI's over the summer on my now Mazda3 and engine performance and milege both increased - this was after a RX treatment.
Overpriced soap if you ask me.
cheers
flame suit on!
I have used 2 Rislone OCI's over the summer on my now Mazda3 and engine performance and milege both increased - this was after a RX treatment.
Overpriced soap if you ask me.
cheers
flame suit on!
Originally Posted By: sprintman
Nowhere does RX say it will clean splash fed areas. Where are people getting this misinformation?
Auto-Rx®acts slowly and safely to dissolve these contaminants while maintaining the host oil chemistry. Auto-Rx® liquefies the sludge, carbon, and other debris in your engine while you drive and prevents clogs in the flow of the oil. Auto-Rx® uses your oil to get into every nook and cranny of your engine. Just pour Auto-Rx® into the crankcase and drive your vehicle as normal! Auto-Rx® works as you drive. See What It Will Do.
I found the above statement on the Arx Site under How It Works, so if auto-rx uses your oil to get into every nook and cranny of your engine then arx should clean splash fed areas like the valvetrain which it did not by looking at the pics in the 1st page of this thread.
The back of the bottle of auto-rx says: Auto-Rx has been independently proven to restore compression, increase usable combustion, reduce bad hydrocarbons, AND DRIVE ALL THIRD PARTY ABRASIVES, DIRT, CARBON and SLUDGE INTO YOUR OIL FILTER.
I take the word ALL to mean that arx will clean up everything.
I obviously have gotten this MISINFORMATION from the arx site and on the back of a bottle of auto-rx.
Nowhere does RX say it will clean splash fed areas. Where are people getting this misinformation?
Auto-Rx®acts slowly and safely to dissolve these contaminants while maintaining the host oil chemistry. Auto-Rx® liquefies the sludge, carbon, and other debris in your engine while you drive and prevents clogs in the flow of the oil. Auto-Rx® uses your oil to get into every nook and cranny of your engine. Just pour Auto-Rx® into the crankcase and drive your vehicle as normal! Auto-Rx® works as you drive. See What It Will Do.
I found the above statement on the Arx Site under How It Works, so if auto-rx uses your oil to get into every nook and cranny of your engine then arx should clean splash fed areas like the valvetrain which it did not by looking at the pics in the 1st page of this thread.
The back of the bottle of auto-rx says: Auto-Rx has been independently proven to restore compression, increase usable combustion, reduce bad hydrocarbons, AND DRIVE ALL THIRD PARTY ABRASIVES, DIRT, CARBON and SLUDGE INTO YOUR OIL FILTER.
I take the word ALL to mean that arx will clean up everything.
I obviously have gotten this MISINFORMATION from the arx site and on the back of a bottle of auto-rx.
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