25 years old with 50 years experience

[pandus13]

Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
An IT company in Carlsbad, California is looking for someone with 5 years experience with a computer system that as of this month has existed for only 18 months.

There is an IT school is telling students that their 2 year course in C++ will get them a job writing production code for large corporations starting at at least $100 per hour. In reality a just out of school programmer in C++ would never be allowed to even touch production code in any manner and would certainly not draw $100 an hour. There's this process of starting at the bottom and working your way up that exists in the real world that the school forgot to mention.

Half of the stuff my SIL learned on her 2 year Master courses in Computer Science leave me scratching my head "what this got to do with real world.....?"

 

[Mr Nice]

Lots of young adults look at a person 20-30 years older and think they are worth the same salary without the same experience.

Their ego tells them they are 'special' but they are just a bunch of useless pieces of [censored] without that necessary work experience.

I see it all the time in the healthcare industry.

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
An IT company in Carlsbad, California is looking for someone with 5 years experience with a computer system that as of this month has existed for only 18 months.

There is an IT school is telling students that their 2 year course in C++ will get them a job writing production code for large corporations starting at at least $100 per hour. In reality a just out of school programmer in C++ would never be allowed to even touch production code in any manner and would certainly not draw $100 an hour. There's this process of starting at the bottom and working your way up that exists in the real world that the school forgot to mention.


That goes on a lot at my school. After talking to computer science and IT majors, they think they are guaranteed a job since they know x skill and deserve y salary starting out with zero experience. I blame the teachers. They say this to lure them into their programs.

 

[simple_gifts]

Problem with CS is that 90% of IT jobs aren't CS jobs, they are technical support jobs. Schools are oblivious to this. A guy on the radio was frustrated because he said companies don't want CS people, they want people 'who can do stuff'

I do tech support on very high end equipment; the skill it took the mfg to design and implement is phenomenal (places like EMC) but it doesn't take the same skill to use it; it takes a different skill.

 

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: 4wheeldog
It is our "World economy". The employer is simply creating a background to legitimize hiring someone from offshore. You need to be able to show that you could not hire an American, before you can legitimately hire an Indian (Southern continent).


Bingo!

Big time scam!

Globalism ONLY TRULY benefits the rich in the end.

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Cujet,

What is the "newbie starting wage" for an aircraft mechanic ?

Why bother apply for a job that pays less than you are currently making ?




About $25/hr in major cities.

I had no idea what the pay was. The location was ideal.

 

[Benzadmiral]

Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
An IT company in Carlsbad, California is looking for someone with 5 years experience with a computer system that as of this month has existed for only 18 months.

I saw that sort of routine when job hunting in 2001 in Denver, after being laid off for the 4th time in 4 years. That, and all the little Tiffani-Ambers on the front desk who are more concerned with their nails than the qualifications on an applicant's resume. If their ad says you need to know version 5.1, and you have multi-year experience with 5.0, they shrug you off.

 

[IndyIan]

Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
An IT company in Carlsbad, California is looking for someone with 5 years experience with a computer system that as of this month has existed for only 18 months.


I saw that sort of routine when job hunting in 2001 in Denver, after being laid off for the 4th time in 4 years. That, and all the little Tiffani-Ambers on the front desk who are more concerned with their nails than the qualifications on an applicant's resume. If their ad says you need to know version 5.1, and you have multi-year experience with 5.0, they shrug you off.

Eh, unless there's huge differences between versions of a software, there's no harm in saying you can run 5.1 instead of 5.0... Just read the what's new brochure before doing the interview.

 

[L_Sludger]

Yes, I've been railing about this chicken or the egg scenario for a long time. Entry level positions that require experience - how does one get in? Unpaid internships? It makes my eyes bleed.

 

[Benzadmiral]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
An IT company in Carlsbad, California is looking for someone with 5 years experience with a computer system that as of this month has existed for only 18 months.


I saw that sort of routine when job hunting in 2001 in Denver, after being laid off for the 4th time in 4 years. That, and all the little Tiffani-Ambers on the front desk who are more concerned with their nails than the qualifications on an applicant's resume. If their ad says you need to know version 5.1, and you have multi-year experience with 5.0, they shrug you off.

Eh, unless there's huge differences between versions of a software, there's no harm in saying you can run 5.1 instead of 5.0... Just read the what's new brochure before doing the interview.

Oh, sure, I fibbed if I got to an interview . . . but nowadays it's hard to get even that far, because Tiffani-Amber has tossed your resume before anybody with real knowledge even sees it.

 

[pandus13]

also there is Tiffani-Amber Computer Version 2.0 which filters your resume for their keywords.... to make it easier for Tiffani-Amber to watch said nails all day long...

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Yes, I've been railing about this chicken or the egg scenario for a long time. Entry level positions that require experience - how does one get in? Unpaid internships? It makes my eyes bleed.

Have connections and know people who know people. Or be an extremely good looking female.

*And hope a male has something to do with the hiring.

 

[Mr Nice]

Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Yes, I've been railing about this chicken or the egg scenario for a long time. Entry level positions that require experience - how does one get in? Unpaid internships? It makes my eyes bleed.


The company I work for has paid internships for 1 year, but usually by the 6th month they are offered a full-time position with great benefits if they bust their [censored].

Now if they like playing on their cell phone and don't do any work.... they are asked (forced) to leave the internship program. Turn in your ID badge, keys , iPad and get the heck out of here !!!

 

[Mr Nice]

Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Yes, I've been railing about this chicken or the egg scenario for a long time. Entry level positions that require experience - how does one get in? Unpaid internships? It makes my eyes bleed.

Have connections and know people who know people. Or be an extremely good looking female.

*And hope a male has something to do with the hiring.

Yep. I had one boss that all his female employees looked like 'Charlie's Angels'

There was no way to get a job if: Jennifer, Beth, Taylor, Heather, Cary, Tiffani, Amber, Sara,... etc ...etc applied for the position.

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Yep. I had one boss that all his female employees looked like 'Charlie's Angels'

There was no way to get a job if: Jennifer, Beth, Taylor, Heather, Cary, Tiffani, Amber, Sara,... etc ...etc applied for the position.

Glad someone else agrees. I seem to be the only one my age that sees it.

 

[Mr Nice]

One of his female employee looked like Scarlett Johansson but a foot taller.
She was soooooo gorgeous that I couldn't look her in the eyes without blushing like a tomato. LOL.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: used_0il
Job? I'm not looking for a job.

I want a 25 year old girlfriend with 50 years of experience.

Sounds like a plan to me!