Did they make you buy it after vandalizing the Monroney sticker?
2025 Dodge Charger Daytona EV
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That wasn't me! Both the owner and I laughed about how that got butchered, not sure who did it.
This will be a total flop, Rich Rebuilds said it best:
"Dodge not only showed up late to the party, but they were also at the wrong party, they were at a funeral."
It's not a good ev car, it misses the mark with the target customer. If you watch the reviews the Dodge PR people are making excuses for it. It's ugly.
"Dodge not only showed up late to the party, but they were also at the wrong party, they were at a funeral."
It's not a good ev car, it misses the mark with the target customer. If you watch the reviews the Dodge PR people are making excuses for it. It's ugly.
LOL my thoughts exactly. It actually looks nice and they worked that screen nicely into the dash, it doesn't look like a big screen from a cheap laptop. I hope it sells well, but for that kind of wood I don't see them selling too many. I'd rather have it in ICE, and in that price range I'm sure I'm not alone.
It sounds like they jacked this thing up an EV. If they had thrown a Hellcat motor in it then I might find some interest in it even if I still wouldn’t be a buyer.
I agree, I wouldn't be a buyer either. But if they were to twist my arm and I had to pick one the EV version would remain on the lot.
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It may be a total flop, but you clearly aren't the target customer. Lots of people in this thread appear to disagree with your assessment that it's ugly, myself included. I think it has poor practicality and isn't an overly useful "car", being a 2-door with a small trunk yet still being quite large in size, but the gas Challenger had the same issues and sold reasonably well. This does not however, position this car as a competitor to the Model 3, Model S, BMW i4 or other non-SUV/CUV EV offerings.
We'll see whether this works out for them, I have my doubts. I think the target customer, which is the guy/girl who would have bought the gas Challenger, is also one who will be extremely hard to convert to an EV buyer. This seems like a oddly difficult obstacle to present oneself with when trying to wade into a market that's already challenging.
It is also rumored that it will eventually be available with Hurricane 6 and a new V8 that is under development. Also hearing that now that Tim Kiniskis is back, that there will also be a non-hatchback body for the police / highway patrol fleets.Nope, apparently they are going to make it in both 2 and 4 door versions
The Hurricane 6 isn't a rumor. It was announced by Dodge on the release date, but the EV was the first to be released. Now there is a lot rumors about a V8, but none of that has come directly from Dodge.
You're right, I am not the target customer, no one is. Gas challenger customers will not buy it, because they like muscle cars. EV car buyers won't buy it, because as numerous reviews noted, it's not a good ev car, a practical car, a good car period.
I didn't call the car ugly, I called the situation where if you watch the reviews Dodge PR people are making excuses for the car, and rolling their eyes when they talk about an EV muscle car an ugly situation. The looks of the car are good.
I'll leave you some thoughts from another EV reviewer and car guy.
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I'm providing my own review in this thread, I've driven it, as detailed in the OP. Feel free to contrast my impressions with other reviews, or hell, go drive one yourself, see if it makes the bile creep up the back of your throat like you seem to think it will. I liked the BMW i4 M50 considerably more than any of the Tesla offerings, which is contrary to the position of most professional reviewers. Of course my experience here is also with the current highest spec version, which has more power and all the options, but I doubt that would have too much influence on the impressions, based on what I saw in the video.
I've driven, and reviewed for the board, numerous EV's, but I am not an EV guy, as my signature shows. I find my views are often contrary to those of folks that are career EV reviewer people; people who love Tesla's for the most part, which I don't. People that get excited about "vegan leather" and a tablet bolted to the dashboard and aren't bothered by a sea of plastic or a lack of a HUD, turn signals, or data in front of the driver.
Back to the Charger:
No, it's not a practical car. It's huge with relatively low amounts of usable space as I noted in the OP. It is however, a hell of a lot of fun to drive. Will that seduce people that are the traditional Challenger's audience to give it a chance? I think that's unlikely, but that seems to be the bet they are making with it.
I've already indicated who the target customer is. The question is whether those people can be converted to being EV customers, which I think is a foolish gamble and unlikely to be successful, but I welcome being wrong on that. So yes, there IS absolutely a target customer, but this is like Alfa Romeo going after Toyota customers, it's likely to fail.
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If that was going for $40 CAD as speced, I'd consider it for an office car. The looks are nice, not smashing but not ugly either. But I'd have to pry out those speakers with a crowbar first.
It's leaps ahead of the Tesla "golf cart" thing they got going on.
It's leaps ahead of the Tesla "golf cart" thing they got going on.
I think we're saying the same thing. I wish them the best, as I work in the EV space for GM, and use to live in Michigan, so I want the place to flourish. I have Canadian colleagues who built and work at the LGES plant in Windsor that made the battery cells for this. I've owned a Chevy Volt for 7 years, Bolt for 6 months, and driven most every Tesla, and GM EV product. I like evs... I like gas cars.. I like fast cars.
I think it's a foolish gamble as well, by people who don't understand musclar cars or the ev car space. That being said if I had to buy the Charger or any Tesla product, I would buy the charger due to Elon alone.
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I didn't find it drove badly; drove pretty well in fact, based on my gas SRT Charger, which had somewhat similar proportions. I was rolling on the huge tires though (which they weren't). But, it is insanely heavy (though doesn't feel as heavy as it is, which I guess is a plus?), and that's going to impact how it handles, even when fitted with the huge brakes and tires as the one I drove was.
That said, this is NOT my favourite EV, that title still belongs to the BMW i4 M50, but I like it better than the Model 3 in terms of having much lower cabin noise, a more solid feel, proper HUD & display, and much better seats.
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Gotcha, OK. You were throwing me with the "there's no audience" thing. There clearly is, at least a "target" audience, but the audience they've chosen seems incredibly poorly picked, it's like trying to sell "No guns, we need more government!" stickers to NRA members in Texas.
I could see that. Like I've said before, I'd love to drive it. I will the second I get a chance. I would hope that it felt more solid and quieter than the Model 3. It weighs 2,100lbs more.
Someone with a Dragy has already run one. 2 second 60' and low low 4s 0-60.
The new m3 is supposedly super well sorted.
