2022 GMC Sierra 1500 info is out

[The Critic]

I thinking about the new 2022 Tundra. While I am not overly fond of the design-I'm confident Toyota can make a turbo motor to go up mountain passes and not over heat. PLUS-I don't want to buy another truck in my lifetime-so I think the Toyota longevity/reliability thing could be a fit. Discounts will not be plentiful even when the market normalizes-so we will see what happens.

Not sure if Toyota's first year models are any better than the competition nowadays. I would expect some issues, probably unpleasant ones.

 

[skrypj]

Sure, upgraders will get a new truck every so often. Many will sell to go HD or into something smaller. Leases will put a lot of these on the secondary market and the new supply will be abundant.

I really want one but i wont go domestic and sticker price unless my life depended on it.

Maybe a 2500 ZR2 will come along eventually. I would want to have the sort of good offroad capability and some solid payload right out of the box. 2200 lb payload, 14k trailer towing, large gas tank and able to go off pavement comfortably and confidently. The fancy shocks and GM IFS on a 2500 could be just right.

Or even make some new in betweener truck. The Sierra 2000. For people who don’t want to max out a half ton and dont want to go quite so heavy. 3/4 ton and up adds so much weight on all brands.

Overlanding and family camping type uses are all the rage now.

GM used to do this. The 1500 HD.

Ford still does it with their heavy duty payload package on the F150. Crew cab, 4x4, XLT HDPP trucks have a legit 2500 lbs of payload, ive seen the door stickers. Back in 2011-2014 model years the HDPP had 7 lug axles even, so it truly was inbetween a 1/2 and 3/4 ton

 

[CKN]

Not sure if Toyota's first year models are any better than the competition nowadays. I would expect some issues, probably unpleasant ones.

Somehow-I'm not worried......

 

[CKN]

GM used to do this. The 1500 HD.

Ford still does it with their heavy duty payload package on the F150. Crew cab, 4x4, XLT HDPP trucks have a legit 2500 lbs of payload, ive seen the door stickers. Back in 2011-2014 model years the HDPP had 7 lug axles even, so it truly was inbetween a 1/2 and 3/4 ton

Yes-Ford is one of the only ones (with the F-150 Max Tow Pkg.) you can safely put more than 5,000 pounds behind and not run in to payload or other concerns. I haven't done any research (since I'm not buying one) of how much I would be comfortable towing with it. But it's not going to be anywhere near what is stated as maximum-even with the "Max Tow" spec.

 

[dareo]

GM used to do this. The 1500 HD.

Ford still does it with their heavy duty payload package on the F150. Crew cab, 4x4, XLT HDPP trucks have a legit 2500 lbs of payload, ive seen the door stickers. Back in 2011-2014 model years the HDPP had 7 lug axles even, so it truly was inbetween a 1/2 and 3/4 ton

Cool, did not know about that ford package. Too bad its limited to a few lower trims and not on like a Limited or King ranch.

 

[skrypj]

Cool, did not know about that ford package. Too bad its limited to a few lower trims and not on like a Limited or King ranch.

You could get it in a Lariat up until 2019 in the US. I think Canada can still get a Lariat HDPP.

Yes-Ford is one of the only ones (with the F-150 Max Tow Pkg.) you can safely put more than 5,000 pounds behind and not run in to payload or other concerns. I haven't done any research (since I'm not buying one) of how much I would be comfortable towing with it. But it's not going to be anywhere near what is stated as maximum-even with the "Max Tow" spec.

Max-tow is not what it used to be on the F150. It used to add payload capacity by bumping the GVWR, but starting in 2015, all 3.5L trucks came with the same GVWR, max-tow or not. That said, all 2015+ trucks have payload capacities equal to that of the pre-2015 Max-tow trucks so you can basically take any 3.5L F150 and tow the same trailer with it as a max-tow, assuming payload is your limitation.

Sorry for derailing.