2020 Tundra needs new front differential

I have owned many 4WD LT’s over the years - and the only front end failure was a snap in two (in the rough) …
 
This is why I recommend the extended warranty from the manufacturer. While certainly no guarantee they'll approve anything, I do think many are easier to work with if you have all your documentation lined up. This is a hill I'm wiling to die on (the right to change my own fluids and maintain the warranty), but the again, I have a good friend who is an attorney who does Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act cases.

Most of her cases involving automobiles are lemon law/failure to repair in reasonable time and not breach of warranty/warranty denial or improper exclusion cases, although they do happen. She said Stellantis, Ford, GM, Nissan, and Tesla are the worst to deal with Ford pushing the process of litigation longer before settling and Toyota/Lexus, Subaru, Honda/Acura, and Mazda are the easiest to deal with by far. In her opinion, Toyota/Lexus is the best with goodwill repairs, accepting good documentation, and they are less combative overall.
@Sequoiasoon makes mental note to self for future "play nicely with @PWMDMD as you may need his contact at some future point" Hopefully not so just be happy and always play nice and respectfully. ;) :whistle:
 
Most reliable vehicles don't need this level of repair after 5 years. My friend has a 2015 Tundra with 4WD and 120k miles, only issue has been the shifter position sensor or whatever it's called.

On my Ram I don't think I would have purchased a 7 or 8 year warranty but the lifetime warranty that was offered in 2015 era was well worth it even at $2300. Water pump went out about 9 years from new and fuel pump 10 years or so. $100 deductible. Also covered a very expensive power folding heated/auto-dim side mirror.
 
My 2009 and 2024 F150 4x4's utilize vacuum operated locking hubs. And you are correct, when in the 4wd 'auto' mode I believe the vacuum is no longer ported to the hubs and the differential spins.

However, in 2wd mode, the front differential is not spinning. As the hubs are retracted by vacuum and the transfer case is not engaged. So maximum MPG and minimum wear.

Unless conditions warrant it, 2wd mode is likely the best choice. Ford tries to make the truck perform like a AWD vehicle, but the system is at its core, a typical 4x4 setup. Pretty clunky, relatively robust and quite capable.

Yep, I specifically ordered mine with the 'base' 4x4 package. The hubs are unlocked at all times unless I manually select 4wd. No automatic for me.

I do try and actuate the system every so often to keep things moving.

Truth be told, I would rather have a 2wd truck full stop. I have next to no need for 4wd, but you can't get the hybrid without it anymore.
 
I don't think an extended warranty would've paid off on anything in my signature. and I use the off roaders hard. My experience has been that the 50-100k segment has been less work than the 0-50k segment. Even in the 100-120k zone I'm not sure if it would've paid off on anything. Now if there was an extended warranty that did 250k/20 years, I'd be interested!
 
I don't think an extended warranty would've paid off on anything in my signature. and I use the off roaders hard. My experience has been that the 50-100k segment has been less work than the 0-50k segment. Even in the 100-120k zone I'm not sure if it would've paid off on anything. Now if there was an extended warranty that did 250k/20 years, I'd be interested!
Your Wrangler would have qualified for the lifetime MaxCare warranty from Chrysler but it was discontinued shortly after 2018. It would have been around $2800 though.
 
Your Wrangler would have qualified for the lifetime MaxCare warranty from Chrysler but it was discontinued shortly after 2018. It would have been around $2800 though.
Not a bad price. My only concern would've been them wanting to weasel out of anything due to the modifications I've made to it.
 
Not a bad price. My only concern would've been them wanting to weasel out of anything due to the modifications I've made to it.
It definitely keeps from me modifying my truck for anything major. I have a piggy back style programmer on mine that I have to remove every time I take it to the dealer. Also, once the repair costs more than the book value of the vehicle, they will not perform any repairs. They pay you the value and the warranty ends. Replacement of the 8 speed transmission could be $6k to $8k at the dealer, for example.
 
This repair likely could get done by an independent fixing the bearing for $1000. I know someone who did on Tundra. Dealer can approve entire part on Toyota dime so they go that route.

Glad it worked out.
 
Oy vey...

Just got a phone call from the service manager. Everything was done and tech put the wheel on with no lug nuts and then tried to drive it out for the test drive and the wheel came off and there's suspension and bumper damage. I can use any body shop I want, they will replace anything that needs replacing, and he put a Highlander aside for me for a loaner.

If it wasn't warranty work...I wouldn't have brought it to the dealership monkeys...
 
Oy vey...

Just got a phone call from the service manager. Everything was done and tech put the wheel on with no lug nuts and then tried to drive it out for the test drive and the wheel came off and there's suspension and bumper damage. I can use any body shop I want, they will replace anything that needs replacing, and he put a Highlander aside for me for a loaner.

If it wasn't warranty work...I wouldn't have brought it to the dealership monkeys...
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Oy vey...

Just got a phone call from the service manager. Everything was done and tech put the wheel on with no lug nuts and then tried to drive it out for the test drive and the wheel came off and there's suspension and bumper damage. I can use any body shop I want, they will replace anything that needs replacing, and he put a Highlander aside for me for a loaner.

If it wasn't warranty work...I wouldn't have brought it to the dealership monkeys...
oh dang
 
What are reasonable asks or things to look out for here? He said I can use any body shop I want but I don't have a regular body shop. Is there any reason to not use whoever the dealership uses?
 
What are reasonable asks or things to look out for here? He said I can use any body shop I want but I don't have a regular body shop. Is there any reason to not use whoever the dealership uses?
Sorry about your issues. Things happen.

Paging @Owen Lucas

My guess is he will tell you to get an independent appraiser then go from there. I will add you don't want body shops doing mechanical / suspension work - even if they say they can.
 
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