2020-2022 Explorer Recall - Roll-Away Events Possible
- Thread starter john_pifer
- Start date
Guess I'll add that to the oil change and center touch screen recall already on my wife's car.
Looks to be an under-engineered important component in what can be described as a " dumpster fire" launch of the 2020 Explorer.
Mach E had its fair share of issues, if this trend continues, it doesn't look good for the Lightning.
Mach E had its fair share of issues, if this trend continues, it doesn't look good for the Lightning.
Last edited:
Add that to the recall of about 650,000 newer Ford SUV's and trucks due to the possibility of the windshield wiper arms to fall off or quit working.
https://www.thecarconnection.com/ne...-ford-to-recall-650-000-newer-suvs-and-trucks
Ford stopped using their "Quality Is Job Number One" back in 1998. Apparently they gave up.
https://www.thecarconnection.com/ne...-ford-to-recall-650-000-newer-suvs-and-trucks
Ford stopped using their "Quality Is Job Number One" back in 1998. Apparently they gave up.
Are these all made in that Chicago-area factory where the sunroofs all leaked immediately also?
Cut them a break! They've only been building cars for 118 years or so. They'll get it right eventually! 
Well… at least it’s for an actual problem and not the recall Jeep did because people are incapable of looking in one of 2 places and verifying the vehicle is actually in park, or outright ignoring the dinging noise and the giant bright red warning on the LCD dash when you’d open the door with it not in park.
It's just a bolt.
IMO not a big deal.
IMO not a big deal.
"The joint design is not robust to peak axle input torques and manufacturing variability. The primary contributor is insufficient bearing area for maximum joint loads. This results in bearing area deformation, increasing bending stress on the bolt, which may lead to a fatigue failure," Ford said.
This reads as if it's a little more than just a bolt. The bolt fracturing is the end result of a bigger problem to start with it would seem.
Even if a recall isn't for a major safety issue, like steering wheels coming off or engine fires and is just to replace a $1.00 bolt, recalls cost the manufacturers a lot of money and sour the consumer's confidence let alone PO them due to the inconvenience.
This is money that Ford and others could be putting towards developing their EV's.
This is money that Ford and others could be putting towards developing their EV's.
The entire issue stinks. Had money down on a 2022 until it was put on "hold" because of the recall. Essence of the issue is Ford has two different rear subframes for the Explorer; one with only one rear attachment bolt (into a large cast boss on the cast aluminum differential cover), the other has two rear attachment bolts. There are two large cast threaded bosses on the rear differential cover. The front of the differential is supported by two bolts at its front as well.
Lower HP Explorers, those with the 4 cylinder engines only get the rear subframe with one rear differential attachment bolt. Higher HP Explorers , and police units, are supposed to have the rear subframe designed to use two rear differential attachment bolts.
For some reason, some "person" at Ford decided to use the rear subframe with only one rear differential attachment bolt on all Explorers. Not surprisingly, there have been a number of instances where the single rear differential attachment has sheared on higher HP Explorers, hence the recall.
Now Ford, to address this, is only replacing the rear subframes on the police units. On all the others, they are developing a "retune" or re-flash to do two things: engage the electronic parking brake whenever the vehicle in placed into park, and to "de-tune" the engine somewhat, to reduce the available HP and torque, the details of which are a mystery.
Based on the above, I waved off getting an Explorer.
Lower HP Explorers, those with the 4 cylinder engines only get the rear subframe with one rear differential attachment bolt. Higher HP Explorers , and police units, are supposed to have the rear subframe designed to use two rear differential attachment bolts.
For some reason, some "person" at Ford decided to use the rear subframe with only one rear differential attachment bolt on all Explorers. Not surprisingly, there have been a number of instances where the single rear differential attachment has sheared on higher HP Explorers, hence the recall.
Now Ford, to address this, is only replacing the rear subframes on the police units. On all the others, they are developing a "retune" or re-flash to do two things: engage the electronic parking brake whenever the vehicle in placed into park, and to "de-tune" the engine somewhat, to reduce the available HP and torque, the details of which are a mystery.
Based on the above, I waved off getting an Explorer.
Last edited:
wemay
Site Donor 2023
Recalls happen people. It doesn't mean the end of FORD.
The change to one bolt was done to save the $9.99 per Explorer built, with the one bolt system.
Only the end of Hyundai.........
At least on here......
new fords are all junk. every one of them
OVERKILL
$100 Site Donor 2021
Profound insight.
Similar threads
