2019 Lexus RX350 review

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Ws6


Now...please tell us why you feel luxury brands require longitudinal mounting of the engine.


I would like to hear his expert opinion as well. So far he's dancing around it. Perhaps google is not returning anything useful?

No I am not dancing. Reason why I am not going into discussion about this is that I do not want WS6 jumping into it and trying to deal with his ego issues bcs. his neighbor has MB and he does not. Every time subject comes around some SUV he jumps in thinking he needs to justify to himself his purchase. So I mentioned how IMO transverse engine is not compatible with luxury car, there he is jumping about CX-5, Type R Honda Civic etc. and of course, never fails to mention his neighbor and GLC 43 (which is by the way three times of a car than CX-5).
I think he seriously needs to pump more iron.

 

[Ws6]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Ws6


Now...please tell us why you feel luxury brands require longitudinal mounting of the engine.


I would like to hear his expert opinion as well. So far he's dancing around it. Perhaps google is not returning anything useful?

No I am not dancing. Reason why I am not going into discussion about this is that I do not want WS6 jumping into it and trying to deal with his ego issues bcs. his neighbor has MB and he does not. Every time subject comes around some SUV he jumps in thinking he needs to justify to himself his purchase. So I mentioned how IMO transverse engine is not compatible with luxury car, there he is jumping about CX-5, Type R Honda Civic etc. and of course, never fails to mention his neighbor and GLC 43 (which is by the way three times of a car than CX-5).
I think he seriously needs to pump more iron.

Dude...you're attacking something that isn't a weakness for me.

You're also not distracting us from the fact that you are full of hot air on this engine orientation topic.


Eta: ironically, I'm currently lifting, rofl!

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Ws6


Now...please tell us why you feel luxury brands require longitudinal mounting of the engine.


I would like to hear his expert opinion as well. So far he's dancing around it. Perhaps google is not returning anything useful?

No I am not dancing. Reason why I am not going into discussion about this is that I do not want WS6 jumping into it and trying to deal with his ego issues bcs. his neighbor has MB and he does not. Every time subject comes around some SUV he jumps in thinking he needs to justify to himself his purchase. So I mentioned how IMO transverse engine is not compatible with luxury car, there he is jumping about CX-5, Type R Honda Civic etc. and of course, never fails to mention his neighbor and GLC 43 (which is by the way three times of a car than CX-5).
I think he seriously needs to pump more iron.

Dude...you're attacking something that isn't a weakness for me.

You're also not distracting us from the fact that you are full of hot air on this engine orientation topic.


Eta: ironically, I'm currently lifting, rofl!

I am not sure how you call it, weakness or insecurity, but you do remind me of those high school girls from teenage movies.
It would OK if you on my argument about RX350 replied with something around Lexus. But, you immediately drop in CX5, which , a. does not play in the same league, and b. it is not topic of this discussion. One is derivative of Highlander, another of Mazda 5, that is maybe only similarity.

 

[Ws6]

Originally Posted by edyvw

I am not sure how you call it, weakness or insecurity, but you do remind me of those high school girls from teenage movies.
It would OK if you on my argument about RX350 replied with something around Lexus. But, you immediately drop in CX5, which , a. does not play in the same league, and b. it is not topic of this discussion. One is derivative of Highlander, another of Mazda 5, that is maybe only similarity.


You keep barking up a tree with no squirrel in it. Now...support your statements that longitudinal engines are best for/must be used in luxury vehicles. We're all waiting with baited breath to hear it.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by edyvw

I am not sure how you call it, weakness or insecurity, but you do remind me of those high school girls from teenage movies.
It would OK if you on my argument about RX350 replied with something around Lexus. But, you immediately drop in CX5, which , a. does not play in the same league, and b. it is not topic of this discussion. One is derivative of Highlander, another of Mazda 5, that is maybe only similarity.


You keep barking up a tree with no squirrel in it. Now...support your statements that longitudinal engines are best for/must be used in luxury vehicles. We're all waiting with baited breath to hear it.

There is no need, longitudinal engine is in Mercedes and not in Mazda. Enough said. One is luxury vehicle, another is RAV4 class.
Discussions around longitudinal engine are all around this forum, and numerous times advantages of that concept were mentioned. Reason why you are not aware of that is that there was no opportunity to post Youtube video of Mazda CX5, so you just skipped threads.

 

[Ws6]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by edyvw

I am not sure how you call it, weakness or insecurity, but you do remind me of those high school girls from teenage movies.
It would OK if you on my argument about RX350 replied with something around Lexus. But, you immediately drop in CX5, which , a. does not play in the same league, and b. it is not topic of this discussion. One is derivative of Highlander, another of Mazda 5, that is maybe only similarity.


You keep barking up a tree with no squirrel in it. Now...support your statements that longitudinal engines are best for/must be used in luxury vehicles. We're all waiting with baited breath to hear it.

There is no need, longitudinal engine is in Mercedes and not in Mazda. Enough said. One is luxury vehicle, another is RAV4 class.
Discussions around longitudinal engine are all around this forum, and numerous times advantages of that concept were mentioned. Reason why you are not aware of that is that there was no opportunity to post Youtube video of Mazda CX5, so you just skipped threads.


Okay, so link us to a thread explaining why luxury cars need longitudinal engines. We're all waiting to learn...

 

[nthach]

Originally Posted by Ws6

Okay, so link us to a thread explaining why luxury cars need longitudinal engines. We're all waiting to learn...

Mercedes and BMW are also jumping on the transverse FWD market too. The X1/X2 is more or less a Mini Countryman, the CLA/GLA has a little Nissan in it. Volvo is all transverse and they are a "luxury" brand. An Audi without Quattro is FWD, you can't buy an A5/6/8 without AWD though.

 

[Ws6]

Originally Posted by nthach
Originally Posted by Ws6

Okay, so link us to a thread explaining why luxury cars need longitudinal engines. We're all waiting to learn...

Mercedes and BMW are also jumping on the transverse FWD market too. The X1/X2 is more or less a Mini Countryman, the CLA/GLA has a little Nissan in it. Volvo is all transverse and they are a "luxury" brand. An Audi without Quattro is FWD, you can't buy an A5/6/8 without AWD though.

Yup. Longitudinal=Luxury is a hold-over from the old days where FWD sucked and AWD was super rare/longitudinal, and Longitudinal=RWD=Better. But I'm sure that edyvw will disagree, but not tell us how/why, while forming another insult at the same time.

 

[nthach]

GM really started the FWD luxury movement with the late 1960s and 1970s Olds Toronado which then was used on a Cadillac. GM then switched most of the Cadillac lineup to FWD, Ford followed suit with the Taurus-based Lincoln Continental of the 1990s. I think Cadillac and Lincoln made people believe that FWD isn't "luxurious", Acura wasn't trying too hard to disguise the Integra/Legend/Vigor's FWD roots(and that they were fancy Hondas). And Chrysler pawned off the LeBaron/New Yorker K-Cars...

But people snapped up the Lexus ES300(the ES250 was a flop) and RX300 in droves and Toyota actually sold luxury buyers on FWD somehow.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by nthach
Originally Posted by Ws6

Okay, so link us to a thread explaining why luxury cars need longitudinal engines. We're all waiting to learn...

Mercedes and BMW are also jumping on the transverse FWD market too. The X1/X2 is more or less a Mini Countryman, the CLA/GLA has a little Nissan in it. Volvo is all transverse and they are a "luxury" brand. An Audi without Quattro is FWD, you can't buy an A5/6/8 without AWD though.

BMW and Mercedes are just expanding their portfolio. But as for my taste, BMW with transverse engine is fake BMW.
Audi is different animal and longitudinal engine and FWD are leftovers from NSU. Audi for next generation A4 played with transverse option. They have at disposal probably best modular platform in the world, MQB, but still they dis not want to use it in B9. Next A4 suppose to be on MQB, but Audi could not achieve what they wanted with transverse platform, so they will remain with longitudinal engine.
As for A6/8 I believe they are moving for next generation to RWD platform.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by nthach
GM really started the FWD luxury movement with the late 1960s and 1970s Olds Toronado which then was used on a Cadillac. GM then switched most of the Cadillac lineup to FWD, Ford followed suit with the Taurus-based Lincoln Continental of the 1990s. I think Cadillac and Lincoln made people believe that FWD isn't "luxurious", Acura wasn't trying too hard to disguise the Integra/Legend/Vigor's FWD roots(and that they were fancy Hondas). And Chrysler pawned off the LeBaron/New Yorker K-Cars...

But people snapped up the Lexus ES300(the ES250 was a flop) and RX300 in droves and Toyota actually sold luxury buyers on FWD somehow.

Sure, some people really does not care. But, take into consideration that Toyota in IS, GS and LS has longitudinal platform. There are numerous reasons for that, regardless that typical Lexus customer, whether that is IS,GS or LS does not care about far end of performance. But what Lexus for exxample wants to achieve with IS, competing with BMW, MB, Audi etc. is impossible to achieve with transverse combination. There would be too many compromises when it comes to comfort, noise, handling etc. WS6 is right, you can built Type R, super heavy nose, super fast, or Golf R, etc. But the problem is, than you have to get on the list for kidney donation as yours will not stay in place.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by nthach
Originally Posted by Ws6

Okay, so link us to a thread explaining why luxury cars need longitudinal engines. We're all waiting to learn...

Mercedes and BMW are also jumping on the transverse FWD market too. The X1/X2 is more or less a Mini Countryman, the CLA/GLA has a little Nissan in it. Volvo is all transverse and they are a "luxury" brand. An Audi without Quattro is FWD, you can't buy an A5/6/8 without AWD though.

Yup. Longitudinal=Luxury is a hold-over from the old days where FWD sucked and AWD was super rare/longitudinal, and Longitudinal=RWD=Better. But I'm sure that edyvw will disagree, but not tell us how/why, while forming another insult at the same time.

I do not do insults, but when you for every topic you want to participate bring CX5 and your neighbor Mercedes, well, next time bring it in topic about cars like CX5.

 

[Ws6]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by nthach
Originally Posted by Ws6

Okay, so link us to a thread explaining why luxury cars need longitudinal engines. We're all waiting to learn...

Mercedes and BMW are also jumping on the transverse FWD market too. The X1/X2 is more or less a Mini Countryman, the CLA/GLA has a little Nissan in it. Volvo is all transverse and they are a "luxury" brand. An Audi without Quattro is FWD, you can't buy an A5/6/8 without AWD though.

Yup. Longitudinal=Luxury is a hold-over from the old days where FWD sucked and AWD was super rare/longitudinal, and Longitudinal=RWD=Better. But I'm sure that edyvw will disagree, but not tell us how/why, while forming another insult at the same time.

I do not do insults, but when you for every topic you want to participate bring CX5 and your neighbor Mercedes, well, next time bring it in topic about cars like CX5.

The GLC300 is pretty analagous to the CX5. Not as nice inside in some ways, nicer in others. It's a give and get.(they have the same interior features and options, except cx5 offers Apple CarPlay and AA, more or less, but the cx5 is quieter and more solid over pavement irregularities etc. While the MB has a better NAV screen and sound system.) , but handles a touch better. AMG turns up the knob on that, and acceleration, significantly. Really, feature for feature, the GLC only becomes more luxurious once you move toward the $60k range, as compared to the cx5, and no option makes it as quiet or solid as the cx5 interior. My point in bringing this up is that you literally have no idea about how the two compare on paper, or having been in them, and are only brand humping.


That said...

...you still have not explained how longitudinal and transverse engines relate to luxury, except to say that the Goof R and Civic R have harsh rides...well so does the s2000 and 370z...

I am still waiting to hear how luxury cars must have longitudinal engines...

Really, I just think you're a brand worshiper and not really an objective type. You parrot things you read, but havent even sat in the vehicles you're talking about. In past threads, you've even gone so far as to vouch for the mechanical tidbits of a vehicle that changed years ago without you being the wiser. (Like Audi and their fwd biased system that you thought was still mechanical). Why do I bring up the cx5 and GLC? Because I have hands on experience with them. Something your arguments obviously and painfully lack.

Please...do tell us more about longitudinal engines and luxury...

 

[edyvw]

Quote
The GLC300 is pretty analagous to the CX5. Not as nice inside (they have the same interior features and options, except cx5 offers Apple CarPlay and AA, more or less, but the cx5 is quieter and more solid over pavement irregularities etc.) , but handles a touch better. AMG turns up the knob on that, and acceleration, significantly.

That said...

...you still have not explained how longitudinal and transverse engines relate to luxury, except to say that the Goof R and Civic R have harsh rides...well so does the s2000 and 370z...

I am still waiting to hear how luxury cars must have longitudinal engines...

Really, I just think you're a brand worshiper and not really an objective type. You parrot things you read, but havent even sat in the vehicles you're talking about. In past threads, you've even gone so far as to vouch for the mechanical tidbits of a vehicle that changed years ago without you being the wiser. (Like Audi and their fwd biased system that you thought was still mechanical)

Please...do tell us more about longitudinal engines and luxury...

And it took one mention of CX5 for you to give us another run down of episode "Keeping up with Joneses."

 

[Ws6]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Quote
The GLC300 is pretty analagous to the CX5. Not as nice inside (they have the same interior features and options, except cx5 offers Apple CarPlay and AA, more or less, but the cx5 is quieter and more solid over pavement irregularities etc.) , but handles a touch better. AMG turns up the knob on that, and acceleration, significantly.

That said...

...you still have not explained how longitudinal and transverse engines relate to luxury, except to say that the Goof R and Civic R have harsh rides...well so does the s2000 and 370z...

I am still waiting to hear how luxury cars must have longitudinal engines...

Really, I just think you're a brand worshiper and not really an objective type. You parrot things you read, but havent even sat in the vehicles you're talking about. In past threads, you've even gone so far as to vouch for the mechanical tidbits of a vehicle that changed years ago without you being the wiser. (Like Audi and their fwd biased system that you thought was still mechanical)

Please...do tell us more about longitudinal engines and luxury...

And it took one mention of CX5 for you to give us another run down of episode "Keeping up with Joneses."

Not really. I outlined things to underscore the fact that you're a name shopper, not a quality or feature shopper. You are the kind of customer Beats headphones were made for so to speak. You have no way to articulate or quantify your stances without an appeal to image or tradition.


Back on Topic though, I believe the Lexus actually has a 3rd row. In its size category, that makes it nearly competitorless. And yes, it IS a luxury vehicle regardless of your take on it.

 

[Skippy722]

Originally Posted by Ws6
You are the kind of customer Beats headphones were made for so to speak.


I felt that burn.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by edyvw
Quote
The GLC300 is pretty analagous to the CX5. Not as nice inside (they have the same interior features and options, except cx5 offers Apple CarPlay and AA, more or less, but the cx5 is quieter and more solid over pavement irregularities etc.) , but handles a touch better. AMG turns up the knob on that, and acceleration, significantly.

That said...

...you still have not explained how longitudinal and transverse engines relate to luxury, except to say that the Goof R and Civic R have harsh rides...well so does the s2000 and 370z...

I am still waiting to hear how luxury cars must have longitudinal engines...

Really, I just think you're a brand worshiper and not really an objective type. You parrot things you read, but havent even sat in the vehicles you're talking about. In past threads, you've even gone so far as to vouch for the mechanical tidbits of a vehicle that changed years ago without you being the wiser. (Like Audi and their fwd biased system that you thought was still mechanical)

Please...do tell us more about longitudinal engines and luxury...

And it took one mention of CX5 for you to give us another run down of episode "Keeping up with Joneses."

Not really. I outlined things to underscore the fact that you're a name shopper, not a quality or feature shopper. You are the kind of customer Beats headphones were made for so to speak. You have no way to articulate or quantify your stances without an appeal to image or tradition.


Back on Topic though, I believe the Lexus actually has a 3rd row. In its size category, that makes it nearly competitorless. And yes, it IS a luxury vehicle regardless of your take on it.

IDK, only thing here is that CX5 is Beats and MB is Marantz.

 

[Ws6]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by edyvw
Quote
The GLC300 is pretty analagous to the CX5. Not as nice inside (they have the same interior features and options, except cx5 offers Apple CarPlay and AA, more or less, but the cx5 is quieter and more solid over pavement irregularities etc.) , but handles a touch better. AMG turns up the knob on that, and acceleration, significantly.

That said...

...you still have not explained how longitudinal and transverse engines relate to luxury, except to say that the Goof R and Civic R have harsh rides...well so does the s2000 and 370z...

I am still waiting to hear how luxury cars must have longitudinal engines...

Really, I just think you're a brand worshiper and not really an objective type. You parrot things you read, but havent even sat in the vehicles you're talking about. In past threads, you've even gone so far as to vouch for the mechanical tidbits of a vehicle that changed years ago without you being the wiser. (Like Audi and their fwd biased system that you thought was still mechanical)

Please...do tell us more about longitudinal engines and luxury...

And it took one mention of CX5 for you to give us another run down of episode "Keeping up with Joneses."

Not really. I outlined things to underscore the fact that you're a name shopper, not a quality or feature shopper. You are the kind of customer Beats headphones were made for so to speak. You have no way to articulate or quantify your stances without an appeal to image or tradition.


Back on Topic though, I believe the Lexus actually has a 3rd row. In its size category, that makes it nearly competitorless. And yes, it IS a luxury vehicle regardless of your take on it.

IDK, only thing here is that CX5 is Beats and MB is Marantz.

So...about them longitudinal engines...we are STILL waiting...

As to cx5 vs glc300, what possible selling point does the GLC have beyond "I hAvE an Mb!"?

 

[RTexasF]

The RX350 has been rated for 87 octane fuel since 2012.....so much for those recommending premium fuel.

 

[Ws6]

Originally Posted by RTexasF
The RX350 has been rated for 87 octane fuel since 2012.....so much for those recommending premium fuel.

Does it offer more power with 91/93, like GM and Mazda and Subaru?