Their statement was an oversimplification, first Daimler Chrysler and now FCA tend to vary in quality from plant to plant and model year to model year and even within trims and sub models (wide body for example). There have been some excellent FCA SRT products and some that suffered from electrical and suspension gremlins. The Crossfire was a superb car, and whoever designed the Prowler should have been taken out behind a barn and shot.
2016 Chrysler 300S v6 1 year review
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Originally Posted by GZRider
You seem to go through a lot of cars, if you have the money to do so and enjoy that process that's certainly your prerogative. If the reason you are going through cars like oil is they are wearing out prematurely due to your lead foot and the vehicles poor design then maybe don't buy another from FCA or a used first year biturbo engine from KIA Hyundai of German inspiration and Korean manufacture with an unknown long term reliability. Especially from a company currently having their engines sometimes catch on fire for no apparent reason.
Part of the car buying frenzy was being young and not knowing what I/we wanted. Now that I'm older, a father of 2, and realize I don't have to drive like the accelerator is an on off switch I've chilled way WAY out while driving... for the most part. The 300 spends 99% of its life under 2500rpm.
The van and 300 are here to stay though. I intend to pass them down to my kids. I got rid of the Kia Forte because I wanted a v8, and in hindsight I was an idiot to do that, would have made a perfect work car. The Caliber was bought for my wife to drive to school in, and then I drove it to and from work after she was finished. But with 2 kids, we didn't fit in the Caliber. But the Durango was the unreliable one, so it went first. I was a bit upside down on it, but not that bad. Broke even on the Kia. Sold the Caliber to my brother in law for what I owed on it. I've learned my lesson!
I plan on having both cars paid off early... I'm officially over car payments. I want a race car to work on with my kids.
You seem to go through a lot of cars, if you have the money to do so and enjoy that process that's certainly your prerogative. If the reason you are going through cars like oil is they are wearing out prematurely due to your lead foot and the vehicles poor design then maybe don't buy another from FCA or a used first year biturbo engine from KIA Hyundai of German inspiration and Korean manufacture with an unknown long term reliability. Especially from a company currently having their engines sometimes catch on fire for no apparent reason.
Part of the car buying frenzy was being young and not knowing what I/we wanted. Now that I'm older, a father of 2, and realize I don't have to drive like the accelerator is an on off switch I've chilled way WAY out while driving... for the most part. The 300 spends 99% of its life under 2500rpm.
The van and 300 are here to stay though. I intend to pass them down to my kids. I got rid of the Kia Forte because I wanted a v8, and in hindsight I was an idiot to do that, would have made a perfect work car. The Caliber was bought for my wife to drive to school in, and then I drove it to and from work after she was finished. But with 2 kids, we didn't fit in the Caliber. But the Durango was the unreliable one, so it went first. I was a bit upside down on it, but not that bad. Broke even on the Kia. Sold the Caliber to my brother in law for what I owed on it. I've learned my lesson!
I plan on having both cars paid off early... I'm officially over car payments. I want a race car to work on with my kids.
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
I have and only will ever have, owned 1 Chrysler product. Basically, they are an MB for poors. You get 90% of the features, and 180% of the headache, at 50% the cost, and 0% of the brand prestige. I got suckered by that formula, and no more. Terrible experiences.
This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this message board. You do realize my SRT stickered for more than most Mercedes vehicles that don't say "AMG" on them, right? And even some that do. I know numerous people worth many millions of dollars that drive FCA products because they choose to. Some of them also own Mercedes, Aston Martin, Lamborghini. Heck, one of them just bought a Koenigsegg and owns 5 Vipers, 5 Corvettes, two AMG coupes and a G-wagon. He also bought a Grand Cherokee Trackhawk last year, before that, he had the sibling to my SRT, same year, bought at the same time.
I've actually cross-shopped Mercedes and BMW, have you?
Your SRT Jeep is about the most expensive vehicle made by said company, slotting just under the TrackHawk. It is analagous to a well optioned entry level BMW or Mercedes midsize in cost, but slots newr the top of their ranges for features, etc. If you wanted a comparable BMW or Benz to your Jeep, itnwould cost near or north of 6 figures. Hence...
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well. My neighbor has a GLC43 AMG and its nice. Similar to my mazda, but louder and less refined, although notably faster.
Long and short of it, I drive 25k mi a year and thats why I went with what I did. Maintenance, reliability, mpg, awd and ground clearance, and still outdoes the Macan, which is good enough.
So basically, the Porsche for poors, rofl!
Originally Posted by Ws6
I have and only will ever have, owned 1 Chrysler product. Basically, they are an MB for poors. You get 90% of the features, and 180% of the headache, at 50% the cost, and 0% of the brand prestige. I got suckered by that formula, and no more. Terrible experiences.
This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this message board. You do realize my SRT stickered for more than most Mercedes vehicles that don't say "AMG" on them, right? And even some that do. I know numerous people worth many millions of dollars that drive FCA products because they choose to. Some of them also own Mercedes, Aston Martin, Lamborghini. Heck, one of them just bought a Koenigsegg and owns 5 Vipers, 5 Corvettes, two AMG coupes and a G-wagon. He also bought a Grand Cherokee Trackhawk last year, before that, he had the sibling to my SRT, same year, bought at the same time.
I've actually cross-shopped Mercedes and BMW, have you?
Your SRT Jeep is about the most expensive vehicle made by said company, slotting just under the TrackHawk. It is analagous to a well optioned entry level BMW or Mercedes midsize in cost, but slots newr the top of their ranges for features, etc. If you wanted a comparable BMW or Benz to your Jeep, itnwould cost near or north of 6 figures. Hence...
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well. My neighbor has a GLC43 AMG and its nice. Similar to my mazda, but louder and less refined, although notably faster.
Long and short of it, I drive 25k mi a year and thats why I went with what I did. Maintenance, reliability, mpg, awd and ground clearance, and still outdoes the Macan, which is good enough.
So basically, the Porsche for poors, rofl!
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Originally Posted by Skippy722
I had one guy tell me how awful is Sienna is, but then tell me why I would buy that rattle trap anyway. Our van doesn't rattle at all. And I didn't get suckered into paying the Toyota tax!
I regret not going with VW Atlas (was my first choice for family hauler). I bought this Toyota now, and NEVER again.
I did not go with Atlas as I did not like how that VR6 felt here at high altitude. Went with Sienna as it has more space and engine felt more enthusiastic.
6 months later, I regret that decision like no other vehicle I bought. I told my wife that I am afraid I will do something to the car before I get myself my toy car.
Was thinking about caravan, but AWD is actually nice to have when you ski twice a week.
I had one guy tell me how awful is Sienna is, but then tell me why I would buy that rattle trap anyway. Our van doesn't rattle at all. And I didn't get suckered into paying the Toyota tax!
I regret not going with VW Atlas (was my first choice for family hauler). I bought this Toyota now, and NEVER again.
I did not go with Atlas as I did not like how that VR6 felt here at high altitude. Went with Sienna as it has more space and engine felt more enthusiastic.
6 months later, I regret that decision like no other vehicle I bought. I told my wife that I am afraid I will do something to the car before I get myself my toy car.
Was thinking about caravan, but AWD is actually nice to have when you ski twice a week.
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Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well.
I was checking out Porsche 911, but then Toyota Camry Sport Edition seemed much better.
How one compares longitudinal engine based vehicle, and of all things, a Porsche, with vehicle based on FWD platform and transverse mounted engine?
I just do not get it.
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well.
I was checking out Porsche 911, but then Toyota Camry Sport Edition seemed much better.
How one compares longitudinal engine based vehicle, and of all things, a Porsche, with vehicle based on FWD platform and transverse mounted engine?
I just do not get it.
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Your SRT Jeep is about the most expensive vehicle made by said company, slotting just under the TrackHawk. It is analagous to a well optioned entry level BMW or Mercedes midsize in cost, but slots newr the top of their ranges for features, etc. If you wanted a comparable BMW or Benz to your Jeep, itnwould cost near or north of 6 figures. Hence...
Mine, as purchased, stickered for $90K CDN. Base is $71K. Trackhawks start at $103K. Now, I didn't pay anywhere near sticker for it, but then I wouldn't expect to on a Benz either given my relationship with the dealer.
The comparable (same platform) Mercedes is the GLE, which starts at 64K. To get the 362HP 450 version, you start at $74K. Step it up to an AMG and you are looking at $76.5K base for the GLE43 with the 385HP bi-turbo V6. The GLE63, which is what I was interested in since it made more power (577HP), is what really bumps the price, putting you at $116K, so now we are well into TrackHawk territory, but we aren't looking at 707HP. Performance-wise the AMG GLE63 is slotted right between the SRT Grand Cherokee and the TrackHawk. Cost-wise, it's roughly the same as the TrackHawk.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well. My neighbor has a GLC43 AMG and its nice. Similar to my mazda, but louder and less refined, although notably faster.
Long and short of it, I drive 25k mi a year and thats why I went with what I did. Maintenance, reliability, mpg, awd and ground clearance, and still outdoes the Macan, which is good enough.
So basically, the Porsche for poors, rofl!
I didn't even look at Porsche. We don't have a local dealer and I have zero experience with the brand. The Cayenne is the closest match in their lineup and it appears to start at $75K.
Your SRT Jeep is about the most expensive vehicle made by said company, slotting just under the TrackHawk. It is analagous to a well optioned entry level BMW or Mercedes midsize in cost, but slots newr the top of their ranges for features, etc. If you wanted a comparable BMW or Benz to your Jeep, itnwould cost near or north of 6 figures. Hence...
Mine, as purchased, stickered for $90K CDN. Base is $71K. Trackhawks start at $103K. Now, I didn't pay anywhere near sticker for it, but then I wouldn't expect to on a Benz either given my relationship with the dealer.
The comparable (same platform) Mercedes is the GLE, which starts at 64K. To get the 362HP 450 version, you start at $74K. Step it up to an AMG and you are looking at $76.5K base for the GLE43 with the 385HP bi-turbo V6. The GLE63, which is what I was interested in since it made more power (577HP), is what really bumps the price, putting you at $116K, so now we are well into TrackHawk territory, but we aren't looking at 707HP. Performance-wise the AMG GLE63 is slotted right between the SRT Grand Cherokee and the TrackHawk. Cost-wise, it's roughly the same as the TrackHawk.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well. My neighbor has a GLC43 AMG and its nice. Similar to my mazda, but louder and less refined, although notably faster.
Long and short of it, I drive 25k mi a year and thats why I went with what I did. Maintenance, reliability, mpg, awd and ground clearance, and still outdoes the Macan, which is good enough.
So basically, the Porsche for poors, rofl!
I didn't even look at Porsche. We don't have a local dealer and I have zero experience with the brand. The Cayenne is the closest match in their lineup and it appears to start at $75K.
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Your SRT Jeep is about the most expensive vehicle made by said company, slotting just under the TrackHawk. It is analagous to a well optioned entry level BMW or Mercedes midsize in cost, but slots newr the top of their ranges for features, etc. If you wanted a comparable BMW or Benz to your Jeep, itnwould cost near or north of 6 figures. Hence...
Mine, as purchased, stickered for $90K CDN. Base is $71K. Trackhawks start at $103K. Now, I didn't pay anywhere near sticker for it, but then I wouldn't expect to on a Benz either given my relationship with the dealer.
The comparable (same platform) Mercedes is the GLE, which starts at 64K. To get the 362HP 450 version, you start at $74K. Step it up to an AMG and you are looking at $76.5K base for the GLE43 with the 385HP bi-turbo V6. The GLE63, which is what I was interested in since it made more power (577HP), is what really bumps the price, putting you at $116K, so now we are well into TrackHawk territory, but we aren't looking at 707HP. Performance-wise the AMG GLE63 is slotted right between the SRT Grand Cherokee and the TrackHawk. Cost-wise, it's roughly the same as the TrackHawk.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well. My neighbor has a GLC43 AMG and its nice. Similar to my mazda, but louder and less refined, although notably faster.
Long and short of it, I drive 25k mi a year and thats why I went with what I did. Maintenance, reliability, mpg, awd and ground clearance, and still outdoes the Macan, which is good enough.
So basically, the Porsche for poors, rofl!
I didn't even look at Porsche. We don't have a local dealer and I have zero experience with the brand. The Cayenne is the closest match in their lineup and it appears to start at $75K.
Id have liked to spend more, but honestly I wonder if I really would be happy spending more. The most ive spent on a car is $74k usd. I didnt get any more pleasure from it than other, much cheaper cars I've owned, ultimately. Kindof that satiety thing...if 2 burgers sre good, 20 must be great! Not so much.
That, and I am 33, only make barely 6 figures, and also am paying for a house and 13 acres on the river and my other hobbies (NFA firearms, BJJ, Crossfit, etc. And that junk adds up). I dont like overtime, either, so...$40k was the limit on this one, and given how I devalue a car via mileage, I doubt I'll spend kuch over 40k even when I pay my estate off. Id rather retire.
....that said, Incoupd have bought a used SRT Jeep, but chose not to, because I do not trust it one bit after a few years and 75k miles, and like I said...I drive. So I chose a less optioned but more expensive "for what I got" vehicle, because of the quality and intangibles I got with it vs horsepower and pano roofs.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Your SRT Jeep is about the most expensive vehicle made by said company, slotting just under the TrackHawk. It is analagous to a well optioned entry level BMW or Mercedes midsize in cost, but slots newr the top of their ranges for features, etc. If you wanted a comparable BMW or Benz to your Jeep, itnwould cost near or north of 6 figures. Hence...
Mine, as purchased, stickered for $90K CDN. Base is $71K. Trackhawks start at $103K. Now, I didn't pay anywhere near sticker for it, but then I wouldn't expect to on a Benz either given my relationship with the dealer.
The comparable (same platform) Mercedes is the GLE, which starts at 64K. To get the 362HP 450 version, you start at $74K. Step it up to an AMG and you are looking at $76.5K base for the GLE43 with the 385HP bi-turbo V6. The GLE63, which is what I was interested in since it made more power (577HP), is what really bumps the price, putting you at $116K, so now we are well into TrackHawk territory, but we aren't looking at 707HP. Performance-wise the AMG GLE63 is slotted right between the SRT Grand Cherokee and the TrackHawk. Cost-wise, it's roughly the same as the TrackHawk.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well. My neighbor has a GLC43 AMG and its nice. Similar to my mazda, but louder and less refined, although notably faster.
Long and short of it, I drive 25k mi a year and thats why I went with what I did. Maintenance, reliability, mpg, awd and ground clearance, and still outdoes the Macan, which is good enough.
So basically, the Porsche for poors, rofl!
I didn't even look at Porsche. We don't have a local dealer and I have zero experience with the brand. The Cayenne is the closest match in their lineup and it appears to start at $75K.
Id have liked to spend more, but honestly I wonder if I really would be happy spending more. The most ive spent on a car is $74k usd. I didnt get any more pleasure from it than other, much cheaper cars I've owned, ultimately. Kindof that satiety thing...if 2 burgers sre good, 20 must be great! Not so much.
That, and I am 33, only make barely 6 figures, and also am paying for a house and 13 acres on the river and my other hobbies (NFA firearms, BJJ, Crossfit, etc. And that junk adds up). I dont like overtime, either, so...$40k was the limit on this one, and given how I devalue a car via mileage, I doubt I'll spend kuch over 40k even when I pay my estate off. Id rather retire.
....that said, Incoupd have bought a used SRT Jeep, but chose not to, because I do not trust it one bit after a few years and 75k miles, and like I said...I drive. So I chose a less optioned but more expensive "for what I got" vehicle, because of the quality and intangibles I got with it vs horsepower and pano roofs.
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Skippy722
I had one guy tell me how awful is Sienna is, but then tell me why I would buy that rattle trap anyway. Our van doesn't rattle at all. And I didn't get suckered into paying the Toyota tax!
I regret not going with VW Atlas (was my first choice for family hauler). I bought this Toyota now, and NEVER again.
I did not go with Atlas as I did not like how that VR6 felt here at high altitude. Went with Sienna as it has more space and engine felt more enthusiastic.
6 months later, I regret that decision like no other vehicle I bought. I told my wife that I am afraid I will do something to the car before I get myself my toy car.
Was thinking about caravan, but AWD is actually nice to have when you ski twice a week.
I totally understand the AWD bit. If you've ever seen Chicago and the surrounding areas though... it's flatter than some of the lumber at Home Depot
I don't like driving the van... it's top heavy (obviously) and doesn't like to corner, I'm just thankful it's got enough balls to move out of its own way though. For all the reasons I love my 300 though, my wife hates it. She'll drive it if she has too, but in her words "I like looking at the 300, but I like driving the van."
Originally Posted by Skippy722
I had one guy tell me how awful is Sienna is, but then tell me why I would buy that rattle trap anyway. Our van doesn't rattle at all. And I didn't get suckered into paying the Toyota tax!
I regret not going with VW Atlas (was my first choice for family hauler). I bought this Toyota now, and NEVER again.
I did not go with Atlas as I did not like how that VR6 felt here at high altitude. Went with Sienna as it has more space and engine felt more enthusiastic.
6 months later, I regret that decision like no other vehicle I bought. I told my wife that I am afraid I will do something to the car before I get myself my toy car.
Was thinking about caravan, but AWD is actually nice to have when you ski twice a week.
I totally understand the AWD bit. If you've ever seen Chicago and the surrounding areas though... it's flatter than some of the lumber at Home Depot
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Your SRT Jeep is about the most expensive vehicle made by said company, slotting just under the TrackHawk. It is analagous to a well optioned entry level BMW or Mercedes midsize in cost, but slots newr the top of their ranges for features, etc. If you wanted a comparable BMW or Benz to your Jeep, itnwould cost near or north of 6 figures. Hence...
Mine, as purchased, stickered for $90K CDN. Base is $71K. Trackhawks start at $103K. Now, I didn't pay anywhere near sticker for it, but then I wouldn't expect to on a Benz either given my relationship with the dealer.
The comparable (same platform) Mercedes is the GLE, which starts at 64K. To get the 362HP 450 version, you start at $74K. Step it up to an AMG and you are looking at $76.5K base for the GLE43 with the 385HP bi-turbo V6. The GLE63, which is what I was interested in since it made more power (577HP), is what really bumps the price, putting you at $116K, so now we are well into TrackHawk territory, but we aren't looking at 707HP. Performance-wise the AMG GLE63 is slotted right between the SRT Grand Cherokee and the TrackHawk. Cost-wise, it's roughly the same as the TrackHawk.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well. My neighbor has a GLC43 AMG and its nice. Similar to my mazda, but louder and less refined, although notably faster.
Long and short of it, I drive 25k mi a year and thats why I went with what I did. Maintenance, reliability, mpg, awd and ground clearance, and still outdoes the Macan, which is good enough.
So basically, the Porsche for poors, rofl!
I didn't even look at Porsche. We don't have a local dealer and I have zero experience with the brand. The Cayenne is the closest match in their lineup and it appears to start at $75K.
Id have liked to spend more, but honestly I wonder if I really would be happy spending more. The most ive spent on a car is $74k usd. I didnt get any more pleasure from it than other, much cheaper cars I've owned, ultimately. Kindof that satiety thing...if 2 burgers sre good, 20 must be great! Not so much.
That, and I am 33, only make barely 6 figures, and also am paying for a house and 13 acres on the river and my other hobbies (NFA firearms, BJJ, Crossfit, etc. And that junk adds up). I dont like overtime, either, so...$40k was the limit on this one, and given how I devalue a car via mileage, I doubt I'll spend kuch over 40k even when I pay my estate off. Id rather retire.
....that said, Incoupd have bought a used SRT Jeep, but chose not to, because I do not trust it one bit after a few years and 75k miles, and like I said...I drive. So I chose a less optioned but more expensive "for what I got" vehicle, because of the quality and intangibles I got with it vs horsepower and pano roofs.
Sounds like we are in a similar boat, I'm 39, though I wish I had 13 acres! Real estate here has recently exploded and anything close to that locally with a reasonable sized house would be pushing $1 mil. My hobbies are ATV riding and firearms as well. I have some nice guns, and yeah, that's an expensive hobby! I don't do anything like crossfit however.
I can see your reasoning with respect to depreciation.
The Jeep is comically, the most I've ever spent on vehicle. It replaced a Charger SRT8, which replaced a used BMW M5 I had before it. We were trying to get down to two vehicles, because having a third and living in town with limited driveway space was not in any way conducive to that setup. We went through a "cars" period when we had the Expedition, but once it was going to be out of the picture SUV's made more sense given the kids, snow, and trailer towing. So, we had a Durango (with the Pentastar) and the SRT8, which was replaced shortly after with the Jeep. Then we traded the Durango for a truck, because, well, we needed a truck. But the diesel didn't end up being a good fit, so we traded that on the '19, which we are happy with.
My wife loves the pano sunroofs. Personally, I don't care for having that much weight that high up. We'll see how the quality argument distills out. I have running threads on both vehicles and update with mileage-based reviews and issues, if they arise.
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Your SRT Jeep is about the most expensive vehicle made by said company, slotting just under the TrackHawk. It is analagous to a well optioned entry level BMW or Mercedes midsize in cost, but slots newr the top of their ranges for features, etc. If you wanted a comparable BMW or Benz to your Jeep, itnwould cost near or north of 6 figures. Hence...
Mine, as purchased, stickered for $90K CDN. Base is $71K. Trackhawks start at $103K. Now, I didn't pay anywhere near sticker for it, but then I wouldn't expect to on a Benz either given my relationship with the dealer.
The comparable (same platform) Mercedes is the GLE, which starts at 64K. To get the 362HP 450 version, you start at $74K. Step it up to an AMG and you are looking at $76.5K base for the GLE43 with the 385HP bi-turbo V6. The GLE63, which is what I was interested in since it made more power (577HP), is what really bumps the price, putting you at $116K, so now we are well into TrackHawk territory, but we aren't looking at 707HP. Performance-wise the AMG GLE63 is slotted right between the SRT Grand Cherokee and the TrackHawk. Cost-wise, it's roughly the same as the TrackHawk.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I cross shopped BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes, but quite frankly, I chose to go with Mazda instead of a Macan because it was faster, and cheaper, and likley going to be more reliable, althogh that's debatable as the Macan does well. My neighbor has a GLC43 AMG and its nice. Similar to my mazda, but louder and less refined, although notably faster.
Long and short of it, I drive 25k mi a year and thats why I went with what I did. Maintenance, reliability, mpg, awd and ground clearance, and still outdoes the Macan, which is good enough.
So basically, the Porsche for poors, rofl!
I didn't even look at Porsche. We don't have a local dealer and I have zero experience with the brand. The Cayenne is the closest match in their lineup and it appears to start at $75K.
Id have liked to spend more, but honestly I wonder if I really would be happy spending more. The most ive spent on a car is $74k usd. I didnt get any more pleasure from it than other, much cheaper cars I've owned, ultimately. Kindof that satiety thing...if 2 burgers sre good, 20 must be great! Not so much.
That, and I am 33, only make barely 6 figures, and also am paying for a house and 13 acres on the river and my other hobbies (NFA firearms, BJJ, Crossfit, etc. And that junk adds up). I dont like overtime, either, so...$40k was the limit on this one, and given how I devalue a car via mileage, I doubt I'll spend kuch over 40k even when I pay my estate off. Id rather retire.
....that said, Incoupd have bought a used SRT Jeep, but chose not to, because I do not trust it one bit after a few years and 75k miles, and like I said...I drive. So I chose a less optioned but more expensive "for what I got" vehicle, because of the quality and intangibles I got with it vs horsepower and pano roofs.
Sounds like we are in a similar boat, I'm 39, though I wish I had 13 acres! Real estate here has recently exploded and anything close to that locally with a reasonable sized house would be pushing $1 mil. My hobbies are ATV riding and firearms as well. I have some nice guns, and yeah, that's an expensive hobby! I don't do anything like crossfit however.
I can see your reasoning with respect to depreciation.
The Jeep is comically, the most I've ever spent on vehicle. It replaced a Charger SRT8, which replaced a used BMW M5 I had before it. We were trying to get down to two vehicles, because having a third and living in town with limited driveway space was not in any way conducive to that setup. We went through a "cars" period when we had the Expedition, but once it was going to be out of the picture SUV's made more sense given the kids, snow, and trailer towing. So, we had a Durango (with the Pentastar) and the SRT8, which was replaced shortly after with the Jeep. Then we traded the Durango for a truck, because, well, we needed a truck. But the diesel didn't end up being a good fit, so we traded that on the '19, which we are happy with.
My wife loves the pano sunroofs. Personally, I don't care for having that much weight that high up. We'll see how the quality argument distills out. I have running threads on both vehicles and update with mileage-based reviews and issues, if they arise.
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Sounds like we are in a similar boat, I'm 39, though I wish I had 13 acres! Real estate here has recently exploded and anything close to that locally with a reasonable sized house would be pushing $1 mil. My hobbies are ATV riding and firearms as well. I have some nice guns, and yeah, that's an expensive hobby! I don't do anything like crossfit however.
I can see your reasoning with respect to depreciation.
The Jeep is comically, the most I've ever spent on vehicle. It replaced a Charger SRT8, which replaced a used BMW M5 I had before it. We were trying to get down to two vehicles, because having a third and living in town with limited driveway space was not in any way conducive to that setup. We went through a "cars" period when we had the Expedition, but once it was going to be out of the picture SUV's made more sense given the kids, snow, and trailer towing. So, we had a Durango (with the Pentastar) and the SRT8, which was replaced shortly after with the Jeep. Then we traded the Durango for a truck, because, well, we needed a truck. But the diesel didn't end up being a good fit, so we traded that on the '19, which we are happy with.
My wife loves the pano sunroofs. Personally, I don't care for having that much weight that high up. We'll see how the quality argument distills out. I have running threads on both vehicles and update with mileage-based reviews and issues, if they arise.
The SRT actually holds value, but nothing survives past 150k miles with much value intact.
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Sounds like we are in a similar boat, I'm 39, though I wish I had 13 acres! Real estate here has recently exploded and anything close to that locally with a reasonable sized house would be pushing $1 mil. My hobbies are ATV riding and firearms as well. I have some nice guns, and yeah, that's an expensive hobby! I don't do anything like crossfit however.
I can see your reasoning with respect to depreciation.
The Jeep is comically, the most I've ever spent on vehicle. It replaced a Charger SRT8, which replaced a used BMW M5 I had before it. We were trying to get down to two vehicles, because having a third and living in town with limited driveway space was not in any way conducive to that setup. We went through a "cars" period when we had the Expedition, but once it was going to be out of the picture SUV's made more sense given the kids, snow, and trailer towing. So, we had a Durango (with the Pentastar) and the SRT8, which was replaced shortly after with the Jeep. Then we traded the Durango for a truck, because, well, we needed a truck. But the diesel didn't end up being a good fit, so we traded that on the '19, which we are happy with.
My wife loves the pano sunroofs. Personally, I don't care for having that much weight that high up. We'll see how the quality argument distills out. I have running threads on both vehicles and update with mileage-based reviews and issues, if they arise.
The SRT actually holds value, but nothing survives past 150k miles with much value intact.
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Sounds like a great setup! We have two ranges back at my buddy's place, one is 220 yards, the other 100. He has 88 acres out in the country, land has been in the family forever. I agree, that setup you have will be a great investment going forward.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
Gotcha. I jog with my dog and bike with my kids, that's about the extent of my cardio
Originally Posted by Ws6
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
For sure! I have a Canadian-made Cadex CDX-33 in .338 Lapua, a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308. I rotate (or have) between handloads and box on the former, though I haven't pressed any in the last year. Less rare/special, I have a Derya MK12 topped with an Eotech, the old standby Mossberg 500 a few .22's..etc. I'm a member of our CCFR (Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights) which is somewhat similar to your NRA.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Doesn't surprise me at all. My kids don't like the Jeep, they would MUCH rather be in the truck.
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Sounds like a great setup! We have two ranges back at my buddy's place, one is 220 yards, the other 100. He has 88 acres out in the country, land has been in the family forever. I agree, that setup you have will be a great investment going forward.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
Gotcha. I jog with my dog and bike with my kids, that's about the extent of my cardio
Originally Posted by Ws6
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
For sure! I have a Canadian-made Cadex CDX-33 in .338 Lapua, a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308. I rotate (or have) between handloads and box on the former, though I haven't pressed any in the last year. Less rare/special, I have a Derya MK12 topped with an Eotech, the old standby Mossberg 500 a few .22's..etc. I'm a member of our CCFR (Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights) which is somewhat similar to your NRA.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Doesn't surprise me at all. My kids don't like the Jeep, they would MUCH rather be in the truck.
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Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Skippy722
I had one guy tell me how awful is Sienna is, but then tell me why I would buy that rattle trap anyway. Our van doesn't rattle at all. And I didn't get suckered into paying the Toyota tax!
I regret not going with VW Atlas (was my first choice for family hauler). I bought this Toyota now, and NEVER again.
I did not go with Atlas as I did not like how that VR6 felt here at high altitude. Went with Sienna as it has more space and engine felt more enthusiastic.
6 months later, I regret that decision like no other vehicle I bought. I told my wife that I am afraid I will do something to the car before I get myself my toy car.
Was thinking about caravan, but AWD is actually nice to have when you ski twice a week.
I totally understand the AWD bit. If you've ever seen Chicago and the surrounding areas though... it's flatter than some of the lumber at Home Depot
I don't like driving the van... it's top heavy (obviously) and doesn't like to corner, I'm just thankful it's got enough balls to move out of its own way though. For all the reasons I love my 300 though, my wife hates it. She'll drive it if she has too, but in her words "I like looking at the 300, but I like driving the van."
I spend a lot of time in Chicago on business, plus my wife is from Morton Grove, so I am familiar with that weather there and driving conditions. FWD van with snow tires would do there easily.
What is interesting when I was looking Highlander and then drove Sienna, Sienna felt better in curves. I think 2015 has 25% more sound insulation in the floor than 2011-2014 and it is lower to the ground than Highlander. Realistically, both vehicles are horrid on the road, but between two, actually Sienna felt better in curves (if you can call it that way).
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Skippy722
I had one guy tell me how awful is Sienna is, but then tell me why I would buy that rattle trap anyway. Our van doesn't rattle at all. And I didn't get suckered into paying the Toyota tax!
I regret not going with VW Atlas (was my first choice for family hauler). I bought this Toyota now, and NEVER again.
I did not go with Atlas as I did not like how that VR6 felt here at high altitude. Went with Sienna as it has more space and engine felt more enthusiastic.
6 months later, I regret that decision like no other vehicle I bought. I told my wife that I am afraid I will do something to the car before I get myself my toy car.
Was thinking about caravan, but AWD is actually nice to have when you ski twice a week.
I totally understand the AWD bit. If you've ever seen Chicago and the surrounding areas though... it's flatter than some of the lumber at Home Depot
I spend a lot of time in Chicago on business, plus my wife is from Morton Grove, so I am familiar with that weather there and driving conditions. FWD van with snow tires would do there easily.
What is interesting when I was looking Highlander and then drove Sienna, Sienna felt better in curves. I think 2015 has 25% more sound insulation in the floor than 2011-2014 and it is lower to the ground than Highlander. Realistically, both vehicles are horrid on the road, but between two, actually Sienna felt better in curves (if you can call it that way).
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Sounds like a great setup! We have two ranges back at my buddy's place, one is 220 yards, the other 100. He has 88 acres out in the country, land has been in the family forever. I agree, that setup you have will be a great investment going forward.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
Gotcha. I jog with my dog and bike with my kids, that's about the extent of my cardio
Originally Posted by Ws6
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
For sure! I have a Canadian-made Cadex CDX-33 in .338 Lapua, a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308. I rotate (or have) between handloads and box on the former, though I haven't pressed any in the last year. Less rare/special, I have a Derya MK12 topped with an Eotech, the old standby Mossberg 500 a few .22's..etc. I'm a member of our CCFR (Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights) which is somewhat similar to your NRA.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Doesn't surprise me at all. My kids don't like the Jeep, they would MUCH rather be in the truck.
Yeah, I wish I had longer than 100m, but my area is rather hilly, and land here was $10K USD/Acre, so I stopped where I did on the acquisitions. I had a .308 once. A SR25 ACC MLOK. I just never really had the need to shoot anything bigger than a deer, and 5.56 handles that fine, so it got sold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtsF1TNKfJU
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Sounds like a great setup! We have two ranges back at my buddy's place, one is 220 yards, the other 100. He has 88 acres out in the country, land has been in the family forever. I agree, that setup you have will be a great investment going forward.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
Gotcha. I jog with my dog and bike with my kids, that's about the extent of my cardio
Originally Posted by Ws6
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
For sure! I have a Canadian-made Cadex CDX-33 in .338 Lapua, a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308. I rotate (or have) between handloads and box on the former, though I haven't pressed any in the last year. Less rare/special, I have a Derya MK12 topped with an Eotech, the old standby Mossberg 500 a few .22's..etc. I'm a member of our CCFR (Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights) which is somewhat similar to your NRA.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Doesn't surprise me at all. My kids don't like the Jeep, they would MUCH rather be in the truck.
Yeah, I wish I had longer than 100m, but my area is rather hilly, and land here was $10K USD/Acre, so I stopped where I did on the acquisitions. I had a .308 once. A SR25 ACC MLOK. I just never really had the need to shoot anything bigger than a deer, and 5.56 handles that fine, so it got sold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtsF1TNKfJU
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Sounds like a great setup! We have two ranges back at my buddy's place, one is 220 yards, the other 100. He has 88 acres out in the country, land has been in the family forever. I agree, that setup you have will be a great investment going forward.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
Gotcha. I jog with my dog and bike with my kids, that's about the extent of my cardio
Originally Posted by Ws6
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
For sure! I have a Canadian-made Cadex CDX-33 in .338 Lapua, a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308. I rotate (or have) between handloads and box on the former, though I haven't pressed any in the last year. Less rare/special, I have a Derya MK12 topped with an Eotech, the old standby Mossberg 500 a few .22's..etc. I'm a member of our CCFR (Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights) which is somewhat similar to your NRA.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Doesn't surprise me at all. My kids don't like the Jeep, they would MUCH rather be in the truck.
Yeah, I wish I had longer than 100m, but my area is rather hilly, and land here was $10K USD/Acre, so I stopped where I did on the acquisitions. I had a .308 once. A SR25 ACC MLOK. I just never really had the need to shoot anything bigger than a deer, and 5.56 handles that fine, so it got sold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtsF1TNKfJU
That is absolutely glorious!
Sounds like you did well on the price too.
Regarding .308, interestingly up here, while you can use .223/5.56 in Ontario, in neighbouring Quebec, the minimum rifle calibre for deer is .243. Moose is a popular one here too, and .308 is able to do both. It's also cheap and plentiful, that's why it ended up being my go to. I had a nice Savage 10PC in .223 for a while, but I shot the .308 so much more that I ended up selling it.
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Sounds like a great setup! We have two ranges back at my buddy's place, one is 220 yards, the other 100. He has 88 acres out in the country, land has been in the family forever. I agree, that setup you have will be a great investment going forward.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
Gotcha. I jog with my dog and bike with my kids, that's about the extent of my cardio
Originally Posted by Ws6
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
For sure! I have a Canadian-made Cadex CDX-33 in .338 Lapua, a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308. I rotate (or have) between handloads and box on the former, though I haven't pressed any in the last year. Less rare/special, I have a Derya MK12 topped with an Eotech, the old standby Mossberg 500 a few .22's..etc. I'm a member of our CCFR (Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights) which is somewhat similar to your NRA.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Doesn't surprise me at all. My kids don't like the Jeep, they would MUCH rather be in the truck.
Yeah, I wish I had longer than 100m, but my area is rather hilly, and land here was $10K USD/Acre, so I stopped where I did on the acquisitions. I had a .308 once. A SR25 ACC MLOK. I just never really had the need to shoot anything bigger than a deer, and 5.56 handles that fine, so it got sold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtsF1TNKfJU
That is absolutely glorious!
Regarding .308, interestingly up here, while you can use .223/5.56 in Ontario, in neighbouring Quebec, the minimum rifle calibre for deer is .243. Moose is a popular one here too, and .308 is able to do both. It's also cheap and plentiful, that's why it ended up being my go to. I had a nice Savage 10PC in .223 for a while, but I shot the .308 so much more that I ended up selling it.
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Sounds like a great setup! We have two ranges back at my buddy's place, one is 220 yards, the other 100. He has 88 acres out in the country, land has been in the family forever. I agree, that setup you have will be a great investment going forward.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
Gotcha. I jog with my dog and bike with my kids, that's about the extent of my cardio
Originally Posted by Ws6
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
For sure! I have a Canadian-made Cadex CDX-33 in .338 Lapua, a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308. I rotate (or have) between handloads and box on the former, though I haven't pressed any in the last year. Less rare/special, I have a Derya MK12 topped with an Eotech, the old standby Mossberg 500 a few .22's..etc. I'm a member of our CCFR (Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights) which is somewhat similar to your NRA.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Doesn't surprise me at all. My kids don't like the Jeep, they would MUCH rather be in the truck.
Yeah, I wish I had longer than 100m, but my area is rather hilly, and land here was $10K USD/Acre, so I stopped where I did on the acquisitions. I had a .308 once. A SR25 ACC MLOK. I just never really had the need to shoot anything bigger than a deer, and 5.56 handles that fine, so it got sold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtsF1TNKfJU
That is absolutely glorious!
Sounds like you did well on the price too.
Regarding .308, interestingly up here, while you can use .223/5.56 in Ontario, in neighbouring Quebec, the minimum rifle calibre for deer is .243. Moose is a popular one here too, and .308 is able to do both. It's also cheap and plentiful, that's why it ended up being my go to. I had a nice Savage 10PC in .223 for a while, but I shot the .308 so much more that I ended up selling it.
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Yes, I bought land here before it took off. 1600sf newer (2006) 2 story and so forth with my own river and 100m range, etc. I suspect in 20 years it will be a nice investment.
Sounds like a great setup! We have two ranges back at my buddy's place, one is 220 yards, the other 100. He has 88 acres out in the country, land has been in the family forever. I agree, that setup you have will be a great investment going forward.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Crossfit is just a social thing and some fun cardio. I dont believe in pushing Olympic lifts for time. I go at my pace.
Gotcha. I jog with my dog and bike with my kids, that's about the extent of my cardio
Originally Posted by Ws6
I tend to go for semi-exotic ish things. Benelli m4 sbs, Hodge Defense Mod2s, etc. And stuff them with .mil only ammo and the like. Because it's a hobby in itself, collecting unicorns. As a Canadian, some of that is less special to you due to your laws vs ours.
For sure! I have a Canadian-made Cadex CDX-33 in .338 Lapua, a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308. I rotate (or have) between handloads and box on the former, though I haven't pressed any in the last year. Less rare/special, I have a Derya MK12 topped with an Eotech, the old standby Mossberg 500 a few .22's..etc. I'm a member of our CCFR (Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights) which is somewhat similar to your NRA.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Good friend of mine had an S63 AMG with Renntech tune. His kids preferred his 2.0xt forester, 2013, stock. Mindblowing. Sometimes utility and satiety are elusive little creatures.
Doesn't surprise me at all. My kids don't like the Jeep, they would MUCH rather be in the truck.
Yeah, I wish I had longer than 100m, but my area is rather hilly, and land here was $10K USD/Acre, so I stopped where I did on the acquisitions. I had a .308 once. A SR25 ACC MLOK. I just never really had the need to shoot anything bigger than a deer, and 5.56 handles that fine, so it got sold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtsF1TNKfJU
That is absolutely glorious!
Regarding .308, interestingly up here, while you can use .223/5.56 in Ontario, in neighbouring Quebec, the minimum rifle calibre for deer is .243. Moose is a popular one here too, and .308 is able to do both. It's also cheap and plentiful, that's why it ended up being my go to. I had a nice Savage 10PC in .223 for a while, but I shot the .308 so much more that I ended up selling it.
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Ahhh, didn't realize that. It sounded like a good deal. Up here you are looking at roughly 55K an acre at present:
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20534666/single-family-unknown-division-road-douro-dummer
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Ahhh, didn't realize that. It sounded like a good deal. Up here you are looking at roughly 55K an acre at present:
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20534666/single-family-unknown-division-road-douro-dummer
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Ahhh, didn't realize that. It sounded like a good deal. Up here you are looking at roughly 55K an acre at present:
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20534666/single-family-unknown-division-road-douro-dummer
Ouch! Yeah, land here is typically $1-2500/acre. My subdivision and the river make it what it is.
Originally Posted by Ws6
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Ahhh, didn't realize that. It sounded like a good deal. Up here you are looking at roughly 55K an acre at present:
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20534666/single-family-unknown-division-road-douro-dummer
Ouch! Yeah, land here is typically $1-2500/acre. My subdivision and the river make it what it is.
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Ahhh, didn't realize that. It sounded like a good deal. Up here you are looking at roughly 55K an acre at present:
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20534666/single-family-unknown-division-road-douro-dummer
Ouch! Yeah, land here is typically $1-2500/acre. My subdivision and the river make it what it is.
Well, you have a beautiful spread. How close is your nearest neighbour?
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Ahhh, didn't realize that. It sounded like a good deal. Up here you are looking at roughly 55K an acre at present:
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20534666/single-family-unknown-division-road-douro-dummer
Ouch! Yeah, land here is typically $1-2500/acre. My subdivision and the river make it what it is.
Well, you have a beautiful spread. How close is your nearest neighbour?
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Ahhh, didn't realize that. It sounded like a good deal. Up here you are looking at roughly 55K an acre at present:
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20534666/single-family-unknown-division-road-douro-dummer
Ouch! Yeah, land here is typically $1-2500/acre. My subdivision and the river make it what it is.
Well, you have a beautiful spread. How close is your nearest neighbour?
About 400m house to house. Someone bought the 5 acres to my left though and kay build, but they will be 75ft higher and over a really steep hill, so I wont see their house from kine.
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Ws6
Makes sense for moose. For deer, Ive never recovered a 5.56 round, even on oblique spine shots, etc. Of course, this is using quality 5.56 monolithic like barnes, gmx, and bonded ammo.
10k an acre is very high for my area, but its riverfront and I got angood deal on the house, which defrayed a bit of the land cost, imo.
Ahhh, didn't realize that. It sounded like a good deal. Up here you are looking at roughly 55K an acre at present:
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20534666/single-family-unknown-division-road-douro-dummer
Ouch! Yeah, land here is typically $1-2500/acre. My subdivision and the river make it what it is.
Well, you have a beautiful spread. How close is your nearest neighbour?
About 400m house to house. Someone bought the 5 acres to my left though and kay build, but they will be 75ft higher and over a really steep hill, so I wont see their house from kine.
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