I searched and didn't run across this. I have been using oversize oil filters on my 99 Corolla and hoped the filter was the same. I see the part number by the book changed. Is the thread or gasket diameter different? If so, what's the biggest canister everybody is using on these motors? Thanks.
2013 Corolla. What's different about oil filter?
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This ^^^^
I don't know anything about it yet. Haven't gone under the car or looked at a factory filter. I hope that's okay before posting?
If yours is the 1.8L version, it takes a cartridge filter. No longer spin on filter.
Seen on YouTube the POS design now used. This makes me mad as [censored] that Toyota went to this non-user friendly design. Are they trying to make oil changes for the DIY types more difficult or is this design better in some way? I guess oversize filtering is out of the question.
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Originally Posted By: Blown347hatch
Seen on YouTube the POS design now used. This makes me mad as [censored] that Toyota went to this non-user friendly design. Are they trying to make oil changes for the DIY types more difficult or is this design better in some way? I guess oversize filtering is out of the question.
What's wrong with a cartridge filter? There are countless vehicles using them with zero problems. In many ways it is a smarter design.
Seen on YouTube the POS design now used. This makes me mad as [censored] that Toyota went to this non-user friendly design. Are they trying to make oil changes for the DIY types more difficult or is this design better in some way? I guess oversize filtering is out of the question.
What's wrong with a cartridge filter? There are countless vehicles using them with zero problems. In many ways it is a smarter design.
We just got a KIA with a cartridge in December. I wasn't a fan of the idea, till I did an OCI. I like it!
Originally Posted By: Blown347hatch
Seen on YouTube the POS design now used. This makes me mad as [censored]
Hey, relax. It's not a big deal at all. You don't have to open filters with hacksaw anymore to see the media. I love that part.
Seen on YouTube the POS design now used. This makes me mad as [censored]
Hey, relax. It's not a big deal at all. You don't have to open filters with hacksaw anymore to see the media. I love that part.
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Originally Posted By: Blown347hatch
Seen on YouTube the POS design now used. This makes me mad as [censored] that Toyota went to this non-user friendly design. Are they trying to make oil changes for the DIY types more difficult or is this design better in some way? I guess oversize filtering is out of the question.
What's wrong with a cartridge filter? There are countless vehicles using them with zero problems. In many ways it is a smarter design.
He is referring to the incredibly unfriendly design that Toyota developed for their newest model vehicles, not the cartridge filters themselves.
The cartridge filter is at the bottom and is hard to get to without making a mess for the average person. Not to mention it needs a special tool to undo the housing.
Originally Posted By: Blown347hatch
Seen on YouTube the POS design now used. This makes me mad as [censored] that Toyota went to this non-user friendly design. Are they trying to make oil changes for the DIY types more difficult or is this design better in some way? I guess oversize filtering is out of the question.
What's wrong with a cartridge filter? There are countless vehicles using them with zero problems. In many ways it is a smarter design.
He is referring to the incredibly unfriendly design that Toyota developed for their newest model vehicles, not the cartridge filters themselves.
The cartridge filter is at the bottom and is hard to get to without making a mess for the average person. Not to mention it needs a special tool to undo the housing.
Cartridge filter at the bottom of the engine behind splash guard is time consuming, difficult and messy to change.
Mercedes has cartridge filter at the top of all their engines, it is very easy to change the filter without a drop of oil anywhere. Mercedes also design their engines to use vacuum pump to siphon the oil through dipstick. The complete oil change is done without getting under the car. No chance to strip the drain plug.
Mercedes has cartridge filter at the top of all their engines, it is very easy to change the filter without a drop of oil anywhere. Mercedes also design their engines to use vacuum pump to siphon the oil through dipstick. The complete oil change is done without getting under the car. No chance to strip the drain plug.
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He is referring to the incredibly unfriendly design that Toyota developed for their newest model vehicles, not the cartridge filters themselves.
The cartridge filter is at the bottom and is hard to get to without making a mess for the average person. Not to mention it needs a special tool to undo the housing. [/quote]
Oh what a feeling...
My GM's both have cartridge filters easily accessible from the top.
He is referring to the incredibly unfriendly design that Toyota developed for their newest model vehicles, not the cartridge filters themselves.
The cartridge filter is at the bottom and is hard to get to without making a mess for the average person. Not to mention it needs a special tool to undo the housing. [/quote]
Oh what a feeling...
My GM's both have cartridge filters easily accessible from the top.
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The 2011 Corolla I changed the oil on was a pain. Had to drive to a Toyota dealer and buy their special removal tool - I had 4 other tools and none of them worked. The cartridge design on top of my son's Ecotec Cavalier engine is a much better design.
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I wish they all had cartridges. Changing the oil in our vehicles is super easy & much cleaner.
I wish they all had cartridges. Changing the oil in our vehicles is super easy & much cleaner.
My first Toyota, a 1967 Corona sedan, used a cartridge filter. Canister had a drain valve and the cartridge came with a copper gasket for the drain as well as one for the cartridge. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
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The 2011 Corolla I changed the oil on was a pain. Had to drive to a Toyota dealer and buy their special removal tool - I had 4 other tools and none of them worked. The cartridge design on top of my son's Ecotec Cavalier engine is a much better design.
There are more options available now... well even by 2011.
I refused to pay Toyota's extortion and bought the Assenmacher Specialty Tools "TOY 640" oil filter wrench from Amazon for twenty bucks. I wonder if they weren't having a little fun when they named that tool "TOY".
The 2011 Corolla I changed the oil on was a pain. Had to drive to a Toyota dealer and buy their special removal tool - I had 4 other tools and none of them worked. The cartridge design on top of my son's Ecotec Cavalier engine is a much better design.
There are more options available now... well even by 2011.
I refused to pay Toyota's extortion and bought the Assenmacher Specialty Tools "TOY 640" oil filter wrench from Amazon for twenty bucks. I wonder if they weren't having a little fun when they named that tool "TOY".
The terrible filter location contributed largely to the decision to ditch my wife's 2010 corolla. It sucked.
As for the tool, 4inch rubber coated channel locks work better than the OEM or matco tool.
Hands like a gorilla work better still.
Squeezed a little too hard one day and cracked the housing...bought another (for 65$) that car was gone within the month.
The 1.8 getsincredible mileage...but the quality of the electronics is lacking. Too many made in China pieces rather than Japan. It would throw random codes daily which would of course disappear soon after.
I hate that Toyota has gone that route. Every manufacturer is using either Chinese, Korean, Mexican, or Indian pieces these days....and I'm not a fan.
If it wasn't made by Klaus, Billy Bob, hirimoto, or Dudley do right, I don't want it.
As for the tool, 4inch rubber coated channel locks work better than the OEM or matco tool.
Hands like a gorilla work better still.
Squeezed a little too hard one day and cracked the housing...bought another (for 65$) that car was gone within the month.
The 1.8 getsincredible mileage...but the quality of the electronics is lacking. Too many made in China pieces rather than Japan. It would throw random codes daily which would of course disappear soon after.
I hate that Toyota has gone that route. Every manufacturer is using either Chinese, Korean, Mexican, or Indian pieces these days....and I'm not a fan.
If it wasn't made by Klaus, Billy Bob, hirimoto, or Dudley do right, I don't want it.
OK... Zero problems here with codes or my electronics. I will admit that 10th gen Corollas are not for everyone.
The Amazon tool mounted on the Bosch 18V 1/2" drive mini impact wrench makes very short work of my filter removal. The Bosch fits between the filter cap and the frame member thingie, it's that small. I am under warranty and have a long commute, I have to change the oil every 7 weeks so I've gotten good at it.
The Amazon tool mounted on the Bosch 18V 1/2" drive mini impact wrench makes very short work of my filter removal. The Bosch fits between the filter cap and the frame member thingie, it's that small. I am under warranty and have a long commute, I have to change the oil every 7 weeks so I've gotten good at it.
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The terrible filter location contributed largely to the decision to ditch my wife's 2010 corolla. It sucked.
As for the tool, 4inch rubber coated channel locks work better than the OEM or matco tool.
Hands like a gorilla work better still.
Squeezed a little too hard one day and cracked the housing...bought another (for 65$) that car was gone within the month.
The 1.8 getsincredible mileage...but the quality of the electronics is lacking. Too many made in China pieces rather than Japan. It would throw random codes daily which would of course disappear soon after.
I hate that Toyota has gone that route. Every manufacturer is using either Chinese, Korean, Mexican, or Indian pieces these days....and I'm not a fan.
If it wasn't made by Klaus, Billy Bob, hirimoto, or Dudley do right, I don't want it.
I'm sorry you had so many electronics problems, mine has been dead-nuts reliable. It happens. Tracking down electronics issues is a specialty that many dealers and mechanics are not good at. Very frustrating, I've been there on a different car.
As to the oil change difficulty, I thought it a bit odd set up, but no complaints- you have to realize I was coming from a 99 Taurus. In 98 you could put your hand on the oil filter while standing in front of the car. In 99 they shortened an A/C line so it ran across the top of the filter and you could barely see it and had to drop it from below. For that reason alone I could have swore off buying Fords forever, but that car gave me many, many more reasons to avoid Ford.
I realize many new cars have the oil filter up top which is fabulous, but I can change my 2010 filter quickly and I don't have to cut the can before leaving the old filter on my oil recovery funnel for a week to drain, I like that.
The terrible filter location contributed largely to the decision to ditch my wife's 2010 corolla. It sucked.
As for the tool, 4inch rubber coated channel locks work better than the OEM or matco tool.
Hands like a gorilla work better still.
Squeezed a little too hard one day and cracked the housing...bought another (for 65$) that car was gone within the month.
The 1.8 getsincredible mileage...but the quality of the electronics is lacking. Too many made in China pieces rather than Japan. It would throw random codes daily which would of course disappear soon after.
I hate that Toyota has gone that route. Every manufacturer is using either Chinese, Korean, Mexican, or Indian pieces these days....and I'm not a fan.
If it wasn't made by Klaus, Billy Bob, hirimoto, or Dudley do right, I don't want it.
I'm sorry you had so many electronics problems, mine has been dead-nuts reliable. It happens. Tracking down electronics issues is a specialty that many dealers and mechanics are not good at. Very frustrating, I've been there on a different car.
As to the oil change difficulty, I thought it a bit odd set up, but no complaints- you have to realize I was coming from a 99 Taurus. In 98 you could put your hand on the oil filter while standing in front of the car. In 99 they shortened an A/C line so it ran across the top of the filter and you could barely see it and had to drop it from below. For that reason alone I could have swore off buying Fords forever, but that car gave me many, many more reasons to avoid Ford.
I realize many new cars have the oil filter up top which is fabulous, but I can change my 2010 filter quickly and I don't have to cut the can before leaving the old filter on my oil recovery funnel for a week to drain, I like that.
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