2011 Ford 5.0 - Oil

[Unleashedbeast]

Originally Posted By: Ben99GT


You realize a stock cam 335 rwhp Mach 1 went 10.9 @ 123 at 3015 lbs, right?


Yep, I believe it, and you already told me why (in bold). I thought we already talked about my friends heavy dieted Z28 =D

That Mach 1 is at Corvette weight, not Mustang weight. What lightening tricks did he use?

 

[ProStreetCamaro]

The 5th gen camaro has already been in the 10's with stock long block and spray and we all know how heavy they are.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/2010-camaro/1283708-bolt-10-ss.html


Not saying the new GT wont be a good competitive car but lets not make it something more than it really.

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: ProStreetCamaro
Not saying the new GT wont be a good competitive car but lets not make it something more than it really.


I don't think anyone is, but it is stronger than bumblebee.

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: Unleashedbeast
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT


You realize a stock cam 335 rwhp Mach 1 went 10.9 @ 123 at 3015 lbs, right?


Yep, I believe it, and you already told me why (in bold). I thought we already talked about my friends heavy dieted Z28 =D


That was without spray, and 10.2 is a ways off from 10.9.

3,800 lb, 414 rwhp - 9.17 lb/hp
3,015 lb, 335 rwhp - 9.00 lb/hp

Now let's do 440 rwhp, as it should do with all the usual power makers, minus cracking a cam cover.

3,800 lb, 440 rwhp - 8.63 lb/hp

Still think this car doesn't have a 10 in it N/A?

Quote:
What lightening tricks did he use?


Your normal stuff, Al ds, Al flywheel, tubular front suspension, coil overs, light weight drag rims, rear seat delete, sway bar delete, bumper supports, no gutted interior though.

 

[Gene K]

The cars have only been out a few weeks. The cars will run low-12's when they get more wheel time, better broken in and "Mineshaft Air".

So far the best Showroom Stock pass was with base 3.31 Gears and 18" All-Season Tires. Mike Bowen of Powerhouse went 12.58 @ 112 mph. (The Camaro SS record stands at 12.63 although some dispute it due to Drop-In K&N and Redline Oil).Density Altitude was around 0 and the car isnt really broken in yet.

 

[Gene K]

Originally Posted By: Unleashedbeast
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Nothing inherently wrong with powdered metal rods, they seem to hold up well. And it's not the piston that is the issue when tuned properly. We'll have to wait and see where Ford spec'd the ring gaps.


The aluminum piston @ 11/1 compression ratio will NOT hold up to a lot of boost. The rod will survive, piston not so well.

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8

Like any high output engine it will be more challenging to mod, but they are already running high tens now.


Not running natural aspiration they won't. The 2011's you hear/read about already running 10 seconds 1/4's are using nitrous, slicks, and other supporting bolt on mods like CAI, computer tuning, longtube headers, underdrive pulleys, etc.

The car will only run ~12.80 stock.


Whipple already has a kit out which is indeed limited to 7.0 psi. of course thats a lot of air at these flow levels. Its rated at 600 bhp.

As stated the 3rd time at the strip Mike Bowen went 12.58 Showroom Stock with base 3.31 Gears and All-Season Tires. 12.4 will happen sooner rather than later. Next winter that will get lowered another 1/10 or 2 in mineshaft Air.

My 2007 went 12.8 @ 107 on stock all-season tires and gears (3.55) with nothing but CAI/Tune (Estimate 330 bhp). I dont think its out of the question to expect a car with 80+ bhp more and 120 lb heavier to run 5/10 quicker.

 

[buster]

How is MC oil holding up in prior Mustangs? (4.6L) They seem to be durable engines. Ford tested the MC oil, so I think it would be ok to use. Any synthetic, or even the upcoming GF-5 version of MC should work well. 8qts is a good move.