2010 Taurus 240k water pump finally failed

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Hmmm, 36 year old cars? That’s 1984. How many miles did you get on them? :oops:
Coincidentally both cars have about 240k on them, but the transmissions are higher mileage because I upgraded to overdrive 4 speeds from slightly newer models that had more miles.
 
I've been driving my 84 Olds for 13 years (since 2007) and my 83 Caprice for over 10 years. They are still reliable daily drivers. You can't do that with a lot of modern cars.

Did you recently change your username? Sounds like someone else on here. If so the mods can merge your old acct with the new one. Click “report” on one of your posts and make the request If so.
 
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Found a 2005 Camry for $2500 as is. She's letting us take it to our mechanic for safety. Looks like it needs 4 tires, but nothing else obvious. Road tested and no clunks, transmission worked like new.

My sister didn't like the "boaty" handling. Maybe new struts will help. Felt fine to me but I'm used to my cars and a heavily loaded 05 Silverado.
 
Given the same condition of the body, I would probably do that trade. Not sure my sister would drive it though.


There aren’t too many around and there is a good reason for that.

Old cars weren’t necessarily better, they were just old. Lots of problems came with them.
 
There aren’t too many around and there is a good reason for that.

Old cars weren’t necessarily better, they were just old. Lots of problems came with them.

That depends on your opinion of better. How many people drive their vehicles until they are no longer fixable? Most people upgrade long before they need to. Around here most cars rust out because of road salt, yet I still see 80s gm cars and trucks on the road every single day. I should have counted the 80s square body trucks today. It was at least 3.

Sounds like you're trying to educate me on old cars, when I've been driving them almost exclusively since I got my license in 1999.

No they aren't perfect and there is always something that needs fixing, but at least they can be fixed. If I spent what the average person does a year on maintenance and repairs I'd have both my cars fixed up pretty good by now, but I've had too many other things to spend my money on.

Feel how you want to about modern cars and how great they are, I understand most people get tired of their vehicles and want an excuse to replace them. I'd rather it be my choice. Having a $2000+ repair bill to replace a water pump is not for me.

My limit is around 2010 give or take, depending on the vehicle. Unfortunately the most reliable cars are also the not boring (Camry and Corollas for example), but that's all my sister needs. She can barely afford to have a car, but needs one.
 

“Sounds like you're trying to educate me on old cars, when I've been driving them almost exclusively since I got my license in 1999.”



Well good golly Miss Molly, I didn’t know you were that old.

I started driving in 1973 with a 1961 that had a three on a tree. Some great memories but I wouldn’t trade my CX5 to go back either.
 
“Sounds like you're trying to educate me on old cars, when I've been driving them almost exclusively since I got my license in 1999.”


Well good golly Miss Molly, I didn’t know you were that old.

I started driving in 1973 with a 1961 that had a three on a tree. Some great memories but I wouldn’t trade my CX5 to go back either.
You skipped the rest of what I said. No I'm not very old (36) but few people are putting as many miles on early 80s cars (one with a 1976 engine), as me, with modern fluids and gasoline. I've put 100k miles on the one car the past 13 years (parked every winter)....not sure what major issues you think I should be having. I've rebuilt a starter in one car, replaced the starter in the other car, intake gaskets on the Oldsmobile only because I upgraded to an aluminum intake manifold which corroded......repaired the aluminum upgraded radiator that also corroded, had to replace some bearings in the rear end. Replaced my ac compressor. That's about it. Maybe these are major issues to you, but in my opinion, not bad for over 10 years of driving 2 30+ year old cars.

I think the latest Mazda's like yours seem pretty good but I'd love to see how much better it is than my old junk in another 30 years.

It looked like the Taurus was going to be great because there was so few issues with them the first several years. Until water pumps start failing and the repair is more than the car is worth. Also found out the check engine light that came on her last drive with it was a variable valve timing code, coinciding with the cold start timing chain rattle, I'd say the chain was wearing quickly from the coolant in the oil. Not worth fixing.
 
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