2008 Silverado...tick with PP5w30?

[HitManX]

I have owned quite a few Generation III GM small blocks over the years. '98, '99, and a pair of '01s. All had hydraulic roller lifter clatter upon start up (sounds like they bleed down once shut off), some piston knock (think quality forged piston expansion), and even two with new vehicle oil consumption... which was disgusting considering one was a convertible Corvette.

Noise is just the nature of the beast with these motors that I can deal with, while oil consumption should not be.

 

[OVERKILL]

They have short pistons with short skirts, that's why the pistons made noise. Had nothing to do with the quality of the forgings. They later put coatings on the skirts to eliminate the problem.

 

[ProStreetCamaro]

I have NEVER heard an LS based engine with lifter tap on start up. My 99 SS camaro does get some piston slap (and no the pistons are not forged). My 99 SS does consume oil. Its not "burning" oil per say but rather the PCV system on some of the LS based engines are a poor design and its pulling the oil through the PCV valve. But its not burning oil due to a mechanical problem. Whats funny about my SS is when I do an oil change the piston slap goes tottaly away for about 500 miles or so and slowly comes back. Comes back faster with some oils. The best I have found so far is AMSOIL Signature Series.

Our new 2007 new body style GMC 2500HD has the 6.0 with 7000 miles on it now and it does not use a drop of oil and the engine is as quiet as a mouse. Man does this truck have some power! The LS engines are by far the best small blocks any company has ever made (the cleveland rocked but dumb ford didnt keep it around for long).

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: ProStreetCamaro
I have NEVER heard an LS based engine with lifter tap on start up. My 99 SS camaro does get some piston slap (and no the pistons are not forged). My 99 SS does consume oil. Its not "burning" oil per say but rather the PCV system on some of the LS based engines are a poor design and its pulling the oil through the PCV valve. But its not burning oil due to a mechanical problem. Whats funny about my SS is when I do an oil change the piston slap goes tottaly away for about 500 miles or so and slowly comes back. Comes back faster with some oils. The best I have found so far is AMSOIL Signature Series.

Our new 2007 new body style GMC 2500HD has the 6.0 with 7000 miles on it now and it does not use a drop of oil and the engine is as quiet as a mouse. Man does this truck have some power! The LS engines are by far the best small blocks any company has ever made (the cleveland rocked but dumb ford didnt keep it around for long).


They are just hypereutectic, right?

 

[zulu]

My 06 5.3 ticks when cold and even has a hint of piston slap. M1/Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 were both the same for me.

Amsoil ASL is in there now, no slap but still ticks for a bit, but not as bad at M1 or Pennzoil Platinum. I'm thinking about trying a thicker oil to see what happens. I'd be curious to see what GC does, or even a 40w.

 

[3Toyotas]

Originally Posted By: ProStreetCamaro
I have NEVER heard an LS based engine with lifter tap on start up. My 99 SS camaro does get some piston slap (and no the pistons are not forged). My 99 SS does consume oil. Its not "burning" oil per say but rather the PCV system on some of the LS based engines are a poor design and its pulling the oil through the PCV valve. But its not burning oil due to a mechanical problem. Whats funny about my SS is when I do an oil change the piston slap goes tottaly away for about 500 miles or so and slowly comes back. Comes back faster with some oils. The best I have found so far is AMSOIL Signature Series.

Our new 2007 new body style GMC 2500HD has the 6.0 with 7000 miles on it now and it does not use a drop of oil and the engine is as quiet as a mouse. Man does this truck have some power! The LS engines are by far the best small blocks any company has ever made (the cleveland rocked but dumb ford didnt keep it around for long).


You running SSO in your 6.0?

I've got ASL and EAO47 in our 2500HD van right now, and will be making the switch to SSO in the spring. Van has 7700 miles on it right now and it is quiet as a mouse as well. And no oil consumption.

I feel the excact opposite you do with the power of the 6.0. Course our van is pretty loaded and we're running 3.73 gears.

 

[ProStreetCamaro]

Originally Posted By: 3Toyotas
Originally Posted By: ProStreetCamaro
I have NEVER heard an LS based engine with lifter tap on start up. My 99 SS camaro does get some piston slap (and no the pistons are not forged). My 99 SS does consume oil. Its not "burning" oil per say but rather the PCV system on some of the LS based engines are a poor design and its pulling the oil through the PCV valve. But its not burning oil due to a mechanical problem. Whats funny about my SS is when I do an oil change the piston slap goes tottaly away for about 500 miles or so and slowly comes back. Comes back faster with some oils. The best I have found so far is AMSOIL Signature Series.

Our new 2007 new body style GMC 2500HD has the 6.0 with 7000 miles on it now and it does not use a drop of oil and the engine is as quiet as a mouse. Man does this truck have some power! The LS engines are by far the best small blocks any company has ever made (the cleveland rocked but dumb ford didnt keep it around for long).


You running SSO in your 6.0?

I've got ASL and EAO47 in our 2500HD van right now, and will be making the switch to SSO in the spring. Van has 7700 miles on it right now and it is quiet as a mouse as well. And no oil consumption.

I feel the excact opposite you do with the power of the 6.0. Course our van is pretty loaded and we're running 3.73 gears.



Im not running the SSO yet untill I feel it is broken in good. It has 7,100 miles on it right now. Our truck also has 3.73 gears in it. We tow a loaded landscape trailer with it 5 days a week and have towed my car up the mountains to my cousins auto fabrication shop twice. The car trailer weights 2000 and my car 3600 so thats 5500 and it does not even flinch. Dont even know its back there. I got behind a semi going up a steep grade while towing my car to the shop for some fab work (had his flashers on doing about 40 on a really steep grade) and got antsy so I passed him like he was standing still. You are the first person I have ever heard say they werent impressed with the power of the 6.0 engine. Our truck has the 6 speed automatic with towing package. Paid $17900 for it!

 

[ProStreetCamaro]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


They are just hypereutectic, right?



Yup hypers.

 

[ARB1977]

Originally Posted By: Ponch
All, I have used pennzoil platinum 5w30 religiously since the 3,000 mile mark in my 2008 Silverado (Vortec 6000) I have 19,000 miles on her and have never noticed any lifter tick (at startup) until the cold temps recently in michigan. I have usually stuck with shorter OCI's due to break in metals...but my OLM is only showing 38% with 4500 miles on the current batch, and was planning to push it out to the spring. I usually change right before winter, and then right before summer.....but I am starting to wonder if this oil is thickening slightly due to oxidation etc,.. and this is what is causing this tick that I never heard before. Please anyone chime in? Maybe it's still not a bad idea to change right before winter still? Do most UOA"S give the viscosity at cold?

Dont Chevy V8's have a normal tick at startup till the lifters fill with oil? My buddy's Denali does that.

 

[3Toyotas]

Originally Posted By: ProStreetCamaro
Originally Posted By: 3Toyotas

I have NEVER heard an LS based engine with lifter tap on start up. My 99 SS camaro does get some piston slap (and no the pistons are not forged). My 99 SS does consume oil. Its not "burning" oil per say but rather the PCV system on some of the LS based engines are a poor design and its pulling the oil through the PCV valve. But its not burning oil due to a mechanical problem. Whats funny about my SS is when I do an oil change the piston slap goes tottaly away for about 500 miles or so and slowly comes back. Comes back faster with some oils. The best I have found so far is AMSOIL Signature Series.

Our new 2007 new body style GMC 2500HD has the 6.0 with 7000 miles on it now and it does not use a drop of oil and the engine is as quiet as a mouse. Man does this truck have some power! The LS engines are by far the best small blocks any company has ever made (the cleveland rocked but dumb ford didnt keep it around for long).


You running SSO in your 6.0?

I've got ASL and EAO47 in our 2500HD van right now, and will be making the switch to SSO in the spring. Van has 7700 miles on it right now and it is quiet as a mouse as well. And no oil consumption.

I feel the excact opposite you do with the power of the 6.0. Course our van is pretty loaded and we're running 3.73 gears.



Im not running the SSO yet untill I feel it is broken in good. It has 7,100 miles on it right now. Our truck also has 3.73 gears in it. We tow a loaded landscape trailer with it 5 days a week and have towed my car up the mountains to my cousins auto fabrication shop twice. The car trailer weights 2000 and my car 3600 so thats 5500 and it does not even flinch. Dont even know its back there. I got behind a semi going up a steep grade while towing my car to the shop for some fab work (had his flashers on doing about 40 on a really steep grade) and got antsy so I passed him like he was standing still. You are the first person I have ever heard say they werent impressed with the power of the 6.0 engine. Our truck has the 6 speed automatic with towing package. Paid $17900 for it!


The six speed must be the difference then, but then again we don't have the vortex max in the van. They usually throw the older version motors in the van's (leftover's i guess). And it has the old 4 speed which i don't like. The 6-speeds are great for towing.

Put a real 10k+ load behind it and then tell me how you like the power. haha
I went to lake powell last year and pulled our 8k lb fifth wheel and put the 4k lb boat behind that. The tundra did a fine job, and managed 7.5mpg. Now 12k lbs.........that's a load. Overweight? Yes. Underpowered? No.
We also pull our 10k+ 4-horse gooseneck trailer and manage 9mpg.

You did get one heluva deal though at $18k.