2005 Ford Specifications

[Motorbike]

It appears that 153H has gone the way to WSS-M2C930-A which seems to be basically the old spec plus GF-4 standards but ..

The WSS-M2C929-A 5w30 spec seems to be an upgraded and tougher spec to meet than just GF-4 and goes beyond just GF-4 . It looks like it meets the tough 930A which is tougher than Honda's but in a higher viscosity .

These oils that meet the 929 spec might be the low cost 30wts to look for if I am not missing something here and thats entirely possible

Might be not all 5w30's will meet this in the near future ?

2004 Spec

2005 spec


EDIT :

That 2005 link was dead , here it is in part .

SAE 5W-20 engine oil with the API Certification Mark displayed continues to be the oil recommended for
most 2005 MY Ford vehicles and some Mazda vehicles. The Ford Engineering Material Specification for
SAE 5W-20 service fill oil is WSS-M2C930-A, which specifies primarily ILSAC GF-4 requirements. In
addition, VG follower pin and ring wear limits and the 30 mg TEOST limit are specified. We continue to
strongly promote the use of SAE 5W-20 for our customers. We also request the continued support of oil
marketers to supply oil for our vehicles that follows the owner guide recommendation.
SAE 5w30 with the API Certification Mark displayed is recommended for 2005 MY 4.0L V6 applications
only. The Ford Engineering Material Specification for SAE 5w30 service fill oils is WSS-M2C929-A,
which specifies ILSAC GF-4 requirements and the additional specifications beyond ILSAC GF-4 that are
the same as SAE 5W-20.

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This is what caught my attention about the possibility that the 5w30 conventionals that specifically meet this spec should be a bit tougher oil and maybe the ones to look for as they arrive and it looks like it might take a syn blend to meet it but not certain .

" The Ford Engineering Material Specification for SAE 5w30 service fill oils is WSS-M2C929-A,
which specifies ILSAC GF-4 requirements and the additional specifications beyond ILSAC GF-4 that are the same as SAE 5W-20."


These might be the new Conoco/Phillips Synthetic Blends that was recently discussed

Here in this thread

[ August 30, 2004, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: Motorbike ]

 

[C4Dave]

The tougher 5w30 spec might be in response to Ford's testing that showed the 4.0 V-6s could not use the 5w20. But the problem is that all the non-synthetic 5w30 oils (including Motorcraft) shear down to a 20 weight, which Ford now knows is too thin for these engines.

 

[427Z06]

quote:

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Originally posted by Motorbike:
SAE 5w30 with the API Certification Mark displayed is recommended for 2005 MY 4.0L V6 applications only.

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Interesting. Even Ford admits that the 5w20s don't work well in some engines.

Although, that's possibly good news about the WSS-M2C929-A SAE speced 5w30, especially if you can find it at Walmart for $1.42/qt!

 

[Motorbike]

quote:

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Originally posted by C4Dave:

But the problem is that all the non-synthetic 5w30 oils (including Motorcraft) shear down to a 20 weight, which Ford now knows is too thin for these engines.

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This Motorcraft only went to 10.04 at 3k . It is the latest GF-3 formula with moly . It specs as WSS-M2C205-A and I see what your saying buy not all the 5w30's go below 9.3 all the time FWIW .

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001818

Lower phos or not I will be happy to see some used oil analysis of these new oils that meet the newest Ford 5w30 spec . It will prove intersting to see how many 5w30's actually make that spec .

427Z06 ,

To the new low cost dino's , if they stay low cost

 

[Motorbike]

The new syn blend Phillips Trop Artic meets the new Ford 5w30 WSS-M2C929-A spec and in this link the new GM 5w-20 spec is listed .


Trop Artic data sheet

 

[tenderloin]

Interesting. Even Ford admits that the 5w20s don't work well in some engines

LOL And I thought it was ALL about CAFE? Hmmmm

 

[Motorbike]

Man I don't know but over my life it seems that if an engine is going to fail , it will do it early .

Fords 3/36 warranty ain't that long . If my Wife wins out and we get the 2005 Mustang GT w/ 4.6 which is a 3500lb porker

I'll run it 1k or so then in goes the light 30wt