2000 GrandAm 3 K miles Schaeffer's 5W-30

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The final straw-car has been taken in for the infamous intake manifold coolant leak.

2000 GrandAm 3.4
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Miles on Unit: 33358..40,358...43,300,..49,000

Miles on Oil :.7,843...7,000...3,942,...3,500

Oil:SuperSyn10W-30)..Delvac..Sch5W-30.ASch 5W-30

Oil Filter..K&N.....K&N.....K&N...Suptech..ST

Date......10/20/02..5/22/03..12/13/03..04/01/04

Analists Inc.Schaeffer's..Black..Black..Scheffers





Fe.....31...57......27....14....4

Cr.....1....0.......1......1....0

Al.....7....8.......7......4....2

Pb.....9....5.......4......1....1

Cu.....83...61......60.....34...33

Tin....1....--......5......1...---

Titan. 0....--......0......0...---

Nickel 0....--......1......1...---

Mn..................2......1...---

Silver.0....0....--.0......0...---

Moly...98...13......6......59...97

Phos..1104..1380...1032....565...746

Zn....1119..1310...1332....592...840

Mg....251..537....473.......63...23

Ca....3059..2420..2435.....1852...1684

Boron.150...--....30.......5.....--



Potassium. 15...--....22*..14....--

Sodium.....14...--....4....3.....--

Si....51...24........27....16....8

Anti-Fr.--...0.......0.....0...P :eek:

Fuel.....1%...1.3%..1%*...L.T. .5% ..Neg

Flashpoint........375 F*...390F ...--

H2O..........0....0........0.........Neg





Vis..10.2...14.8....79.0 ...60.7...10.3

TBN....6.06...3.65...--....2.3......--

Sulfu...--......6%...--.....--......0

Oxidation.--...--....--.....--......7

Nitration.--...-30%..--.....--......6


Not too bad really but the fact that they found the antifreeze was enough.

Hmmmm columns are screwed up and missing data-whatever
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: The last column though is right milage, etc.

[ October 19, 2004, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: Al ]
 
Al,

This engine is supposedly notorious for bad gaskets, which lead to the antifreeze. My wife's was leaking a-f a few years back, and we had pretty much every gasket replaced. Cost a few hundred dollars, but it's approaching near 100k miles now, and not a single drop of a-f has shown up since. I've also heard that the Dex-Cool may be to blame. All mechanics I've spoken with say not to leave the Dex-Cool in any longer than a year or two, just like other "normal" a-f. If you're getting a-f to show up in the oil, it's probably too late now, and you'll need gaskets and a-f replaced.

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Z-
 
Yea-I'm well aware of the problem. I have had two Corsicas (3.1L) in the past with this this problem. Itys almost a sure thing that the 3.1/3.4 will leak by 50K miles. Its not the DexCool. The Dex was developed to help the problem. Didn't do much though. The engines are a POS.
 
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