OVERKILL
$100 Site Donor 2021
The shifter in the Civic looks hideous!
1st Review: All new 2012 Hyundai Accent. IT'S GOOD
- Thread starter mareakin
- Start date
- Status
no leather seats available, no care
i also think pricing a similar equipped accent higher than fiesta or sonic is a big mistake. especially when the other 2, IMO, are or will be much nicer cars.
i also think pricing a similar equipped accent higher than fiesta or sonic is a big mistake. especially when the other 2, IMO, are or will be much nicer cars.
Originally Posted By: jmsjags
no leather seats available, no care
...
No W204 Mercedes Benz C300s either....well, not unless you want to order it special made from South Africa.
My brother in law informed me that every one of them at two different dealers had MB-Tex. He was actually upset about this.
All I know is that I am going to laugh if I ride in his E-class and it has MB-Tex
no leather seats available, no care
...
No W204 Mercedes Benz C300s either....well, not unless you want to order it special made from South Africa.
My brother in law informed me that every one of them at two different dealers had MB-Tex. He was actually upset about this.
All I know is that I am going to laugh if I ride in his E-class and it has MB-Tex
Patman
Staff member
I wonder what the pricing on the 2012 Kia Rio is going to be like, as it shares the same drivetrain as the 2012 Accent, but it's a much better looking design and it has a few extra features that the Accent doesn't have (like hill assist for manual trans cars, and the engine shuts off at stoplights) It also comes with nicer looking 17" wheels. If I can get a fully loaded Rio for around the same price as the fully loaded Accent, I'm going to Rio!
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
No Korean Cars for me unless its built stateside. We need industry HERE.
And yet earlier this month your very first suggestion in this thread is the Subaru Forester made in Japan? What's the difference? Everyone is entitled to their ideology, but this seems inconsistent.
Obviously I agree with the OP on this one, no so much on the previous Corolla thread starter.
No Korean Cars for me unless its built stateside. We need industry HERE.
And yet earlier this month your very first suggestion in this thread is the Subaru Forester made in Japan? What's the difference? Everyone is entitled to their ideology, but this seems inconsistent.
Obviously I agree with the OP on this one, no so much on the previous Corolla thread starter.
Well I finally drove one...a "loaded" sedan (stickered at $17,350). The car was better than I expected...and very quiet. I was also impressed with the room (especially for the elbows and shoulders...didn't feel small at all). The suspension is a little "busy" on rough pavement...almost as if the suspension travel is limited (like mentioned in a review). Power is decent, trans is very smooth. Handling is OK...stable and predictable but not a go kart by any means. The interior materials (especially the dash and "black accents" in the model I drove) are very nice...as good as anything in its class. Hyundai has a real winner here...Ford (Fiesta), Honda (Fit), Toyota (Yaris) should be VERY VERY concerned. Hyundai is indeed on a roll.
Nice to hear - Accents sure looks like a winner...
in addition to the cars you mentioned, I think the Elantra also should be concerned...
I like the dash of the accent a lot better - and the hatch looks pretty neat.
in addition to the cars you mentioned, I think the Elantra also should be concerned...
I like the dash of the accent a lot better - and the hatch looks pretty neat.
IMO, the Elantra has little to fear from the Accent, different types of vehicles. The Elantra is bigger/heavier and yet gets very similar mpg. And, the Elantra seems to me at least, a tad more sporty, while the Accent, especially the hatch, a bit more utility. I'd compare it to Civic/Fit and Focus/Fiesta.
And then there's the much discussed Bitog concern about possible DI valve deposits with the Accent. That said, I doubt for the average non Bitog buyer that will be a consideration.
I think Hyundai has a winner in both major redesigns with the Elantra and the Accent. I see no reason, especially with gas prices, why they both can't flourish.
And then there's the much discussed Bitog concern about possible DI valve deposits with the Accent. That said, I doubt for the average non Bitog buyer that will be a consideration.
I think Hyundai has a winner in both major redesigns with the Elantra and the Accent. I see no reason, especially with gas prices, why they both can't flourish.
If the handling isn't as good as the Fit's, I'll take a Fit. That little car is an absolute riot on a twisty road paddle-shifting the AT in Sport mode to keep the revs high between the turns.
Also, Hyundai engines traditionally don't like to rev to make their power. My old Elantra was very torquey down low, and hated being revved much past 4500 RPM or so. It was both harsh and gutless after that, or the polar opposite of a Honda engine.
Also, Hyundai engines traditionally don't like to rev to make their power. My old Elantra was very torquey down low, and hated being revved much past 4500 RPM or so. It was both harsh and gutless after that, or the polar opposite of a Honda engine.
X2 on the revving of any Hyundai. They get really harsh.
Most Hondas seem to sound very sweet when revved, and they make good power once they are wound up.
But for the average commuter in search of economy it's hard to beat the Hyundai/Kia due to CHEAP pricing!
Most Hondas seem to sound very sweet when revved, and they make good power once they are wound up.
But for the average commuter in search of economy it's hard to beat the Hyundai/Kia due to CHEAP pricing!
Quote:
X2 on the revving of any Hyundai. They get really harsh.
I can tell you my 11 Genesis 3.8L is anything but harsh. Very smooth power delivery and quiet on acceleration.
Also didn't notice the poster above mention "harsh' acceleration. As Accent and the Elantra are new engines, perhaps the power delivery has improved.
Also having test driven several Sonata's including the 2.4L and 2.0T, I found the 2.4L engine to be not as refined and quiet as the Honda's I have driven, 4 cylinder and my V6. The 2.0T is another matter though. I found the engine to be very responsive, smooth, and not harsh in the least. I found 2.0T to compare favorably with Honda's 4 and 6 bangers for refinement. Just my observations.
X2 on the revving of any Hyundai. They get really harsh.
I can tell you my 11 Genesis 3.8L is anything but harsh. Very smooth power delivery and quiet on acceleration.
Also didn't notice the poster above mention "harsh' acceleration. As Accent and the Elantra are new engines, perhaps the power delivery has improved.
Also having test driven several Sonata's including the 2.4L and 2.0T, I found the 2.4L engine to be not as refined and quiet as the Honda's I have driven, 4 cylinder and my V6. The 2.0T is another matter though. I found the engine to be very responsive, smooth, and not harsh in the least. I found 2.0T to compare favorably with Honda's 4 and 6 bangers for refinement. Just my observations.
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Quote:
X2 on the revving of any Hyundai. They get really harsh.
I can tell you my 11 Genesis 3.8L is anything but harsh. Very smooth power delivery and quiet on acceleration.
Also didn't notice the poster above mention "harsh' acceleration. As Accent and the Elantra are new engines, perhaps the power delivery has improved.
Also having test driven several Sonata's including the 2.4L and 2.0T, I found the 2.4L engine to be not as refined and quiet as the Honda's I have driven, 4 cylinder and my V6. The 2.0T is another matter though. I found the engine to be very responsive, smooth, and not harsh in the least. I found 2.0T to compare favorably with Honda's 4 and 6 bangers for refinement. Just my observations.
Yup, the 2.0t certainly has no harsh acceleration. It's very smooth, even with ECO on. With ECO off, sometimes I feel like there's too much power coming out of the engine.
Quote:
X2 on the revving of any Hyundai. They get really harsh.
I can tell you my 11 Genesis 3.8L is anything but harsh. Very smooth power delivery and quiet on acceleration.
Also didn't notice the poster above mention "harsh' acceleration. As Accent and the Elantra are new engines, perhaps the power delivery has improved.
Also having test driven several Sonata's including the 2.4L and 2.0T, I found the 2.4L engine to be not as refined and quiet as the Honda's I have driven, 4 cylinder and my V6. The 2.0T is another matter though. I found the engine to be very responsive, smooth, and not harsh in the least. I found 2.0T to compare favorably with Honda's 4 and 6 bangers for refinement. Just my observations.
Yup, the 2.0t certainly has no harsh acceleration. It's very smooth, even with ECO on. With ECO off, sometimes I feel like there's too much power coming out of the engine.
Don't jump too quickly. In order for Hyundai and Kia to meet prices points like they do you KNOW they are cutting corners and it is starting to show up as early wear and tear, check out VWVortex.com TCL link here.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5352624-Hyundai-s-quot-cheapness-quot
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5352624-Hyundai-s-quot-cheapness-quot
Patman
Staff member
Originally Posted By: JoeWGauss
Don't jump too quickly. In order for Hyundai and Kia to meet prices points like they do you KNOW they are cutting corners and it is starting to show up as early wear and tear, check out VWVortex.com TCL link here.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5352624-Hyundai-s-quot-cheapness-quot
I didn't see anything in that thread that showed Hyundai cutting corners, just a bunch of guys arguing about cell phones!
Don't jump too quickly. In order for Hyundai and Kia to meet prices points like they do you KNOW they are cutting corners and it is starting to show up as early wear and tear, check out VWVortex.com TCL link here.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5352624-Hyundai-s-quot-cheapness-quot
I didn't see anything in that thread that showed Hyundai cutting corners, just a bunch of guys arguing about cell phones!
Originally Posted By: JoeWGauss
Don't jump too quickly. In order for Hyundai and Kia to meet prices points like they do you KNOW they are cutting corners and it is starting to show up as early wear and tear, check out VWVortex.com TCL link here.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5352624-Hyundai-s-quot-cheapness-quot
It's a VW specific forum - of course they are going to bash other manufacturers. Also, without painting all the Vortex users with the same brush, the level of maturity there can be somewhat...umm...low.
Don't jump too quickly. In order for Hyundai and Kia to meet prices points like they do you KNOW they are cutting corners and it is starting to show up as early wear and tear, check out VWVortex.com TCL link here.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5352624-Hyundai-s-quot-cheapness-quot
It's a VW specific forum - of course they are going to bash other manufacturers. Also, without painting all the Vortex users with the same brush, the level of maturity there can be somewhat...umm...low.
Well that was a complete waste of reading time and hardly the "ultimate determination" of ANYTHING regarding Hyundai reliability or design acumen. Those guys are a bunch of morons.
Originally Posted By: poiuy223
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Quote:
X2 on the revving of any Hyundai. They get really harsh.
I can tell you my 11 Genesis 3.8L is anything but harsh. Very smooth power delivery and quiet on acceleration.
Also didn't notice the poster above mention "harsh' acceleration. As Accent and the Elantra are new engines, perhaps the power delivery has improved.
Also having test driven several Sonata's including the 2.4L and 2.0T, I found the 2.4L engine to be not as refined and quiet as the Honda's I have driven, 4 cylinder and my V6. The 2.0T is another matter though. I found the engine to be very responsive, smooth, and not harsh in the least. I found 2.0T to compare favorably with Honda's 4 and 6 bangers for refinement. Just my observations.
Yup, the 2.0t certainly has no harsh acceleration. It's very smooth, even with ECO on. With ECO off, sometimes I feel like there's too much power coming out of the engine.
This is fine with me, as I respect your opinion.
I am primarily basing mine on the new Santa Fe with a V6. It is VERY smooth and quiet at anything under 3000 rpm, but rev it to the redline and my 6.1 liter v8 is light years quieter and more refined/smooth.
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Quote:
X2 on the revving of any Hyundai. They get really harsh.
I can tell you my 11 Genesis 3.8L is anything but harsh. Very smooth power delivery and quiet on acceleration.
Also didn't notice the poster above mention "harsh' acceleration. As Accent and the Elantra are new engines, perhaps the power delivery has improved.
Also having test driven several Sonata's including the 2.4L and 2.0T, I found the 2.4L engine to be not as refined and quiet as the Honda's I have driven, 4 cylinder and my V6. The 2.0T is another matter though. I found the engine to be very responsive, smooth, and not harsh in the least. I found 2.0T to compare favorably with Honda's 4 and 6 bangers for refinement. Just my observations.
Yup, the 2.0t certainly has no harsh acceleration. It's very smooth, even with ECO on. With ECO off, sometimes I feel like there's too much power coming out of the engine.
This is fine with me, as I respect your opinion.
I am primarily basing mine on the new Santa Fe with a V6. It is VERY smooth and quiet at anything under 3000 rpm, but rev it to the redline and my 6.1 liter v8 is light years quieter and more refined/smooth.
- Status
