19 accord 2.0 turbo burning oil

[Killer223]

Well shucks. Car has right at 30K miles.
Oil was changed 3K ish ago. had valvoline modern engine synthetic 5w30 with a bosch filter. checked today it's almost 1q low.
topped off with same oil. think i might should change it. last oil was rotells gas truck 5w30 and before that supertech 5w30 no burning issues for over 8K miles runs.

no leaks. yes i filled it up correct level.
Car is only drive long road trips. no short trip at all. minimum would be 35 miles. has a catch can installed from mile 5 and never very much in it. table spoon at most.

thoughts? should i change it for finish out the life of this oil being i topped it off?

 

[ecotourist]

should i change it for finish out the life of this oil being i topped it off?

Why not? That may not be the best oil for that engine from the point of view of consumption but I expect it's lubricating it just fine.

I expect that your engine is still under warranty but Honda will (almost certainly) say that using 1 quart in 3000 miles is still acceptable.

Maybe try something like Castrol Syntec European formula 0w30 for your next change. I used that oil that in my BMW. It's a good oil, a "thick" 30 weight.

 

[parshisa]

weird. if anything, I'd expect it "produce" oil and not loose with the engine being DI. taking it in and have them do the consumption test

 

[mattwithcats]

Why are you putting 5w30 in a car that specifies 0W-20?

 

[wpod]

Why are you putting 5w30 in a car that specifies 0W-20?

Because it is better.

 

[Killer223]

Why are you putting 5w30 in a car that specifies 0W-20?

i keep two oils on hand. 5w30 goes in all my gas engines. cars, truck, mower, generator etc, and 15w40 for my diesels. i was so tired of keeping so many different grades of oil on hand. so 5w30 if it's gas, and 15w40 for diesel. i get whatever is on sale.

 

[Killer223]

weird. if anything, I'd expect it "produce" oil and not loose with the engine being DI. taking it in and have them do the consumption test

wish i could force myself to do that. but i know the kids working in the shop at my Honda dealership and i could never trust anyone else to turn a wrench on my car. might be able to convince myself to take it to a different dealership but those are a 2 hr drive away.

 

[Duffyjr]

I wouldn't waste it, just keep topping off but I would certainly try a different oil or go back to what was working.

When I switched my Lucerne to VAS it used a 1/2 qt in 2.400ish miles for two annual changes. Last April I put in VFS HM and so far I see it's used very little, just a tad below the full line, the top hole is still showing oil in it, not even worth topping off.

 

[Oillover]

weird. if anything, I'd expect it "produce" oil and not loose with the engine being DI. taking it in and have them do the consumption test

That's only if it's short tripped and/or not permitted to get to operating temp.
Considering OP is doing mostly highway driving (high RPM's for extended duration) any condensation/fuel in the oil would be burnt off ASAP.

Also, I'd strongly suggest avoiding the Oil Life Monitor recommendations on OCI's. There's been excessive failures of VTC's, timing chain guides and various other components noted in CRV's, third gen FIT's etc. The components are blamed by the dealers, but the parts the dealers are replacing them with are the exact same as what was originally installed at the factory. That only leaves the oil to be blamed.

 

[parshisa]

That's only if it's short tripped and/or not permitted to get to operating temp.
Considering OP is doing mostly highway driving (high RPM's for extended duration) any condensation/fuel in the oil would be burnt off ASAP.

Also, I'd strongly suggest avoiding the Oil Life Monitor recommendations on OCI's. There's been excessive failures of VTC's, timing chain guides and various other components noted in CRV's, third gen FIT's etc. The components are blamed by the dealers, but the parts the dealers are replacing them with are the exact same as what was originally installed at the factory. That only leaves the oil to be blamed.

No true. I do mostly Highway in my 1.5T civic with engine getting to operating temp every single time and still have dilution issues. Very few people have oil loss issues with these stock Honda turbo engines and that’s why I suggested to see the dealer.

 

[Oillover]

No true. I do mostly Highway in my 1.5T civic with engine getting to operating temp every single time and still have dilution issues. Very few people have oil loss issues with these stock Honda turbo engines and that’s why I suggested to see the dealer.

I'm sorry, but are you saying what I posted is "not true"?
If so I was referring to most engines under normal operating conditions.

 

[parshisa]

I'm sorry, but are you saying what I posted is "not true"?
If so I was referring to most engines under normal operating conditions.

yes. those rules for most of the engines under normal conditions doesn't apply to Honda Earth Dream direct injection engines, especially those that are 1.5T.

 

[Killer223]

anyone think i should do a compression test?

 

[skyactiv]

anyone think i should do a compression test?

Do a leak down test instead.

 

[Thermo1223]

Well you are using an improper oil, installed a catch can for whatever reason. You are your own warranty so why would you even attempt to visit the dealer? At this point hope for the best because there is a high probability you caused the issues you have now.

 

[Thermo1223]

Because it is better.

Negative Ghost Rider...

 

[Killer223]

Well you are using an improper oil, installed a catch can for whatever reason. You are your own warranty so why would you even attempt to visit the dealer? At this point hope for the best because there is a high probability you caused the issues you have now.

Whatever, I had several other cars with the same k20 engine with will over 100K and zero issues with 5w30 oil, this one however is having an issue.
No one can post proof that this oil weight damaged the engine. There is no proof 0/20 is any better or worse for lubricating this engine than the 5/30.

You didn't add anything helpful. So whey even post? Just to be a Richard?

 

[b_b]

no one can say whether an oil damaged and engine or not, unless it was some grade way out of normal spec. a modern engine burning oil does not surprise me. they use low tension rings and extremely hard sidewalls. this is all in an effort to get better mpg. just part of it now. the only thing you can do it keep an eye on it and change your oil regularly and often.

 

[Thermo1223]

Whatever, I had several other cars with the same k20 engine with will over 100K and zero issues with 5w30 oil, this one however is having an issue.
No one can post proof that this oil weight damaged the engine. There is no proof 0/20 is any better or worse for lubricating this engine than the 5/30.

You didn't add anything helpful. So whey even post? Just to be a Richard?

By definition a 0w20 is going to use better base stocks and less VI improvers especially considering it is highly likely to be synthetic in form. You are basically throwing whatever oil is around in it considering Supertech was on the menu. While Supertech isn't a horrible oil I wouldn't use it in a DI Turboed anything unless I was desperate or it actually had approval.

The K20 in this is way different the K20 in Accords of the past. There is absolutely proof 0w20 is better for the engine but you don't seem to care so I'll stop there. Like I said once you installed a catch can you were your own warranty.

 

[Thermo1223]

no one can say whether an oil damaged and engine or not, unless it was some grade way out of normal spec. a modern engine burning oil does not surprise me. they use low tension rings and extremely hard sidewalls. this is all in an effort to get better mpg. just part of it now. the only thing you can do it keep an eye on it and change your oil regularly and often.

False, it was out of grade and that is the first thing suspect. Low tension rings and hardened piston skirts are more of an effort for maximum power & efficiency without damaging anything, not just getter MPG.