17,185 mi Fram Endurance FE7317 cut open
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Filter held up well but looks like your engine is making metal. I’m guessing your long oci has done some damage. I’ve cut many automotive oil filters apart and have never seen that amount of metal in a filter.
The only filter that I’ve seen with visible metal in it was from an airplane. Lycoming ate a cam shaft. That makes metal!!!
The only filter that I’ve seen with visible metal in it was from an airplane. Lycoming ate a cam shaft. That makes metal!!!
The start up rattle the engine has had since brand new has recently gotten worse. I will take front cover off and check chain tensioners and phasers
Well yea, extended oil change intervals will not help it either even if you use HPL.
Has metal crimp , don't think all have it . I believe the FE9688 is one of them with a glued together media
. Prefer metal crimp .
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It's been getting worse for a long time. Not sure I could point a finger at the oci and say that's what did it since it's been rattling since new.
Curious, did you wash that media in a parts washer or with gasoline ... since oil doesn't dry up without "help" ?
looks like it sat in a dehumidifier doesn't it..
Paper towel wick exactly as ZeeOSix posted
That does not look like metal in the pleats, it looks like carbon deposits removed by HPL. We have seen that on some other HPL C&Ps for example Wwilson's.
Where is the metal? I see lots of black pieces of carbon and maybe a bit of metal. It's normal to have some metal in the filter with any engine.
No metal in any filter I’ve ever cut open. 820S cut open this afternoon was clean. If you can see the metal, it’s large and not normal.
Long oci with engine issues is asking for trouble.
Your 4000 kilometer oil filter isn't going to dirty any filter so it makes sense that you can't compare your situation to this situation so I don't know why you would?
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/motorcraft-fl-820s-cut-open.374292/#post-6643358
I've never see any metal in the filters after the engine is well broken in ... ie, after 4-5K miles. If metal shows up after that, there's an issue going on with the engine wear.
So you agree, once the oil has failed, then you get metal. 4000 kms on synthetic oil you will never find metal. The oil is still protecting so there will never be any metal in the filter. 17000 miles on the other hand……
I've never seen a single filter without some metal and I've cut a lot of filters. Try pulling the element out flat on a sunny day and turning your back to the sun. You'll see metal.
Cut the element out of the filter, walk outside on a sunny day, stretch the element out, and turn your back to the sun. I promise you that you will see metal.
There isn't much evidence here that the oil "Failed". Yes, There is carbon debris & I'm sure some metal that tracked with the mileage but this doesn't mean that this 17k run increased metal's on their filter.
I wick the media, then inspect it with a 10X loop under strong light. I never see any metal particles.
