I am (still) thinking of buying a new car to replace my 04 Corolla. I was playing with truecar.com last night and I found one of Hyundai dealer near me was offering 2013 Genesis V6 leftover for 26900 (MSRP 35000). How is this car? Please share your experience with me so I can decide.
13 Genesis reliable?
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It's been around for a few years now and they have worked out most of the kinks. The V6 is a very strong motor and the overall package is impressive at that price point, in my opinion. I've had them as rentals and found it to be a pleasant car to drive. There's a new one coming for 2014.5/2015.
The marketing of the car was a bit confusing, as a side-note. It was originally advertised as beating the expensive German cars like the 5-series and Boxster in different areas, but it's far from a luxury vehicle on the inside. Yes, the interior is decent and appropriate for its price point, but it is definitely not a luxury vehicle. I doubt they stole any buyers from BMW, Audi, or Mercedes with those ads.
The marketing of the car was a bit confusing, as a side-note. It was originally advertised as beating the expensive German cars like the 5-series and Boxster in different areas, but it's far from a luxury vehicle on the inside. Yes, the interior is decent and appropriate for its price point, but it is definitely not a luxury vehicle. I doubt they stole any buyers from BMW, Audi, or Mercedes with those ads.
Its a totally different car than the Corolla thats for sure. I think overall you could expect 100,000+ of decent service. Dont think there is anything inherently wrong with them, but I did check out some reviews once and there seems to be an overall lack of quality. Not the same "puttogetherness" as the Corolla. To be honest I would go with a Sonata or Optima before I went with a Genesis.
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Its a totally different car than the Corolla thats for sure. I think overall you could expect 100,000+ of decent service. Dont think there is anything inherently wrong with them, but I did check out some reviews once and there seems to be an overall lack of quality. Not the same "puttogetherness" as the Corolla. To be honest I would go with a Sonata or Optima before I went with a Genesis.
That's not been my experience with the rentals I've had, and rentals will get beat to [censored] by everyone. As I mentioned, the interior quality is not on-par with the luxury brands, but I'm not sure why anyone expects it to be. It's still a Hyundai (an expensive one at that), not a $60,000 Lexus.
If you want a nice interior, buy a luxury car.
No diss on the Corolla, but that car doesn't have half the personality or character of the Genesis. [censored], we even did a few fun powerslides in the rental last time I had one! The V6 is gutsy and it's connected to a great chassis!
Its a totally different car than the Corolla thats for sure. I think overall you could expect 100,000+ of decent service. Dont think there is anything inherently wrong with them, but I did check out some reviews once and there seems to be an overall lack of quality. Not the same "puttogetherness" as the Corolla. To be honest I would go with a Sonata or Optima before I went with a Genesis.
That's not been my experience with the rentals I've had, and rentals will get beat to [censored] by everyone. As I mentioned, the interior quality is not on-par with the luxury brands, but I'm not sure why anyone expects it to be. It's still a Hyundai (an expensive one at that), not a $60,000 Lexus.
If you want a nice interior, buy a luxury car.
No diss on the Corolla, but that car doesn't have half the personality or character of the Genesis. [censored], we even did a few fun powerslides in the rental last time I had one! The V6 is gutsy and it's connected to a great chassis!
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As a Hyundai service professional, I can say that the Genesis has proven very reliable, and has excellent customer satisfaction.
Being a rear wheel drive vehicle, it is not practical in the Northeast during the winter. Studded snow tires are a must.
If you like the luxury of the Genesis, the Azera may be a better choice, being that it is front wheel drive.
But again the Genesis is an amazing car. I love it when I get to drive a Genesis.
Being a rear wheel drive vehicle, it is not practical in the Northeast during the winter. Studded snow tires are a must.
If you like the luxury of the Genesis, the Azera may be a better choice, being that it is front wheel drive.
But again the Genesis is an amazing car. I love it when I get to drive a Genesis.
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that is a crowded field, i would cross shop the avalon, and an accord v6 as well. they are probably a little more expensive, but if your dropping potentially 27k already, 30k isnt much of a leap.
Yes, shop around for sure.
that is a crowded field, i would cross shop the avalon, and an accord v6 as well. they are probably a little more expensive, but if your dropping potentially 27k already, 30k isnt much of a leap.
Yes, shop around for sure.
The only thing going for it is its RWD.
For $27k I'd buy a used 3 series or CLK and get something the Hyundai always wanted to be.
I think my buddy paid about $28k for his 335I convertible than spent another $1,500 a Dinan to get more power out of it. Seems like a lot of car for the money.
For $27k I'd buy a used 3 series or CLK and get something the Hyundai always wanted to be.
I think my buddy paid about $28k for his 335I convertible than spent another $1,500 a Dinan to get more power out of it. Seems like a lot of car for the money.
I've had a couple as rentals, and they are pretty nice cars. Without doing any research I think $26k is a pretty solid price for what you get - it seems a comparably equipped Sonata would be the same price.
I think it's a lot of car for the money, I'd strongly consider it if I were in the market for a car.
I think it's a lot of car for the money, I'd strongly consider it if I were in the market for a car.
Originally Posted By: 08sienna
I am (still) thinking of buying a new car to replace my 04 Corolla. I was playing with truecar.com last night and I found one of Hyundai dealer near me was offering 2013 Genesis V6 leftover for 26900 (MSRP 35000). How is this car? Please share your experience with me so I can decide.
Are you talking Genesis Sedan, or Genesis Coupe?
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I am (still) thinking of buying a new car to replace my 04 Corolla. I was playing with truecar.com last night and I found one of Hyundai dealer near me was offering 2013 Genesis V6 leftover for 26900 (MSRP 35000). How is this car? Please share your experience with me so I can decide.
Are you talking Genesis Sedan, or Genesis Coupe?
BC.
If it were me I'm not sure I'd buy a used one, but if you're talking a brand new car it's hard to see a downside at that price.
Looks to be reliable:
http://www.carcomplaints.com/Hyundai/Genesis/
Here's a used one with 11k miles for $24,600:
http://www.carmax.com/search?ANa=257&D=90&zip=44039&N=4294963106+4294962387+4294961485&sY=2013-2014&Q=1f7da164-bc96-43e2-a7d8-a27d735460ae&Ep=search:results:results page
They also have a 2012 with 20k miles for $21,600 on the CarMax site.
http://www.carcomplaints.com/Hyundai/Genesis/
Here's a used one with 11k miles for $24,600:
http://www.carmax.com/search?ANa=257&D=90&zip=44039&N=4294963106+4294962387+4294961485&sY=2013-2014&Q=1f7da164-bc96-43e2-a7d8-a27d735460ae&Ep=search:results:results page
They also have a 2012 with 20k miles for $21,600 on the CarMax site.
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It seems like a nice car at a good price. Contrary to what someone else said, I think it's a negative that it's rwd. I wouldn't want that as my only ride in MA. Hopefully you'd have another backup during the winter.
Thank you for all the valuable inputs. This is a new car, I am pretty sure (you can see the offer on truecar.com - use 02062 zip code) and it's a V6 sedan base model. I was doing some more research and I learned about the "steering lock" issue from this forum
http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=12245
http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=12468
and the same problem from a LOT of Korean forums (I am from Korea so I can read them) and I am not sure if this is fixed in 2013 model or not.
Also thank you for heads up about the RWD performance in snowy seasons.
http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=12245
http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=12468
and the same problem from a LOT of Korean forums (I am from Korea so I can read them) and I am not sure if this is fixed in 2013 model or not.
Also thank you for heads up about the RWD performance in snowy seasons.
People are way too quick to dismiss RWD for bad weather.
Guess what, EVERYONE drove RWD for DECADES and did fine. With modern stability/traction control systems, limited slip diffs, EBD, new tire compounds and tread designs, etc, RWD does well in the snow. Just throw some snow tires on a cheap set of wheels for a few months and you'll be golden. It's not the same as 4WD/AWD, but it is not a death-trap. Just drive sensibly. If anything, RWD is easier than FWD in the snow because it is much more predictable and easy to recover from a skid.
My S2000 was a daily driver that survived the Chicago winters just fine, and my M3 eats it up too. Not as good as the two Audis I owned, I'll admit that, but I don't feel uneasy driving them at all.
Guess what, EVERYONE drove RWD for DECADES and did fine. With modern stability/traction control systems, limited slip diffs, EBD, new tire compounds and tread designs, etc, RWD does well in the snow. Just throw some snow tires on a cheap set of wheels for a few months and you'll be golden. It's not the same as 4WD/AWD, but it is not a death-trap. Just drive sensibly. If anything, RWD is easier than FWD in the snow because it is much more predictable and easy to recover from a skid.
My S2000 was a daily driver that survived the Chicago winters just fine, and my M3 eats it up too. Not as good as the two Audis I owned, I'll admit that, but I don't feel uneasy driving them at all.
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People are way too quick to dismiss RWD for bad weather.
Guess what, EVERYONE drove RWD for DECADES and did fine. With modern stability/traction control systems, limited slip diffs, EBD, new tire compounds and tread designs, etc, RWD does well in the snow. Just throw some snow tires on a cheap set of wheels for a few months and you'll be golden. It's not the same as 4WD/AWD, but it is not a death-trap. Just drive sensibly. If anything, RWD is easier than FWD in the snow because it is much more predictable and easy to recover from a skid.
My S2000 was a daily driver that survived the Chicago winters just fine, and my M3 eats it up too. Not as good as the two Audis I owned, I'll admit that, but I don't feel uneasy driving them at all.
I agree with you. My charger is absolutely amazing in snow with proper rubber. The traction control and abs is stellar and I have yet to encounter conditions I wasn't comfortable driving in.
In fact what makes this car awesome in the summer with sticky tires is the same thing that makes it awesome in the winter too.
People are way too quick to dismiss RWD for bad weather.
Guess what, EVERYONE drove RWD for DECADES and did fine. With modern stability/traction control systems, limited slip diffs, EBD, new tire compounds and tread designs, etc, RWD does well in the snow. Just throw some snow tires on a cheap set of wheels for a few months and you'll be golden. It's not the same as 4WD/AWD, but it is not a death-trap. Just drive sensibly. If anything, RWD is easier than FWD in the snow because it is much more predictable and easy to recover from a skid.
My S2000 was a daily driver that survived the Chicago winters just fine, and my M3 eats it up too. Not as good as the two Audis I owned, I'll admit that, but I don't feel uneasy driving them at all.
I agree with you. My charger is absolutely amazing in snow with proper rubber. The traction control and abs is stellar and I have yet to encounter conditions I wasn't comfortable driving in.
In fact what makes this car awesome in the summer with sticky tires is the same thing that makes it awesome in the winter too.
I'll agree with this. I have a few S2000 buddies who drive their cars year-round and are on Blizzaks right now; their low RWD cars get through snow better than AWD X5's with wide all-season tires.
I grew up driving an 81 Pontiac Grand Prix in the snow as a teenager, so a modern car with traction control, abs, stability control, brake force distribution, and today's winter tire options is a breeze in comparison.
My Porsche Boxster had an open differential, but traction control, and was really good in snow, but my Mazda RX-8 with a limited slip differential without traction control was better, in my opinion. What I really want is a Cayman with limited slip, and traction control, because the weight over the drive wheels on a RWD car is so much better than a light rear end RWD car.
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My Porsche Boxster had an open differential, but traction control, and was really good in snow, but my Mazda RX-8 with a limited slip differential without traction control was better, in my opinion. What I really want is a Cayman with limited slip, and traction control, because the weight over the drive wheels on a RWD car is so much better than a light rear end RWD car.
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