I have em to use on 12 point bolts.
For removing a drain plug ? folks are good and removing contextone of if not the most miserable tools ever invented
IMO 6 point tools are redundant and just take up space.For removing a drain plug ? Generalization does not apply …
IMO 6 point tools are redundant and just take up space.
12 point sockets and wrenches work on 6 and 12 point fasteners.
If a 12 point sockets strips a fastener, either the socket or fastener was junk. I try not to make a habit of working on junk.
Thats what they had a lot of in the warehouseThe first set of tools I bought with my own money was a made-in-USA Stanley socket set, 3/8-drive SAE and Metric.... The SAE sockets were 12-point and the metrics were 6-point. I never did figure out why.
I tried buying about 500 dollars of snap on impact sockets. 1/2 drive.. but when it arrived rusty and looked like the sockets rolled down a mile of concrete I returned the poorly made junk and bought allen impact sockets. Less than half the price and way better machining and in flawless condition.Both 6 and 12 point now have relieved corners so the flats are contacted not the corners. No socket without relieved corners, like the old ones, grabs just the flats. The corner goes first, rounds off, and the rounding just keeps going worse like a ramp. Six point used to be better for that. A 6 point still starts at the corners, the socket isn’t tight on the fastener. All the good companies have drawing of how this works and have made small improvement to contact the flats even more. Flank drive plus and all that.
Picture of that mess, please.I tried buying about 500 dollars of snap on impact sockets. 1/2 drive.. but when it arrived rusty and looked like the sockets rolled down a mile of concrete I returned the poorly made junk and bought allen impact sockets. Less than half the price and way better machining and in flawless condition.
Don’t do suspension work in the rust belt then. 6 point, twelve point, doesn’t matter just get the torch!IMO 6 point tools are redundant and just take up space.
12 point sockets and wrenches work on 6 and 12 point fasteners.
If a 12 point sockets strips a fastener, either the socket or fastener was junk. I try not to make a habit of working on junk.
Yeah - you have touched on plastic deformation of the fasteners which would occur differently because of the contact patch and angles of force applied (6 or 12) - which even differs between a socket -vs- a wrench …No disrespect intended for the actual mechanics who run into rounded bolts and the 6 point does go farther in on the flats than a 12, so has more chance to contact below the rounded part. I haven’t run into rounded bolts for many years. Even the 96 pickup I work on, haven’t found one fastener is rounded yet. Especially drain plugs are victims of pliers etc so even a 12 point flank drive may not get enough flank to contact if it is too chewed up.