Is 10w40 recommended fill for any new cars outside the USA?
10w40 recommendation
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When I lived in Greece a long time ago the shops put 10w-40 in everything. Today, friends that still live there say it's the same except now there is some 5w-40(probably synthetic like zeng pointed out, above) along with the 10w-40.
I don't know of any new cars that have 10W40 as the recommended fill.
However, I do know that many cars in Australia are running on 10W40 Semi-Synthetic right now. Here it's the default bulk fill for many shops and garages, my local one included. They all seem to use a semi-synthetic 10W40 that is both API SN and ACEA A3/B4.
I assume it became so common because it was the one grade that worked for most applications. It was A3/B4 for the Euro cars, it was SN for the Japanese cars, and many local cars spec'd a 15W40 mineral - so it worked for these Holden's and Ford's too.
Met a guy with a 2005 Corolla with the 1ZZ-FE engine, he said the Aust. owners manual spec'd 10W40, and one of our first Castrol Magnatec grades was in 10W40, so it's a common oil around here.
In my personal oil stash, I have 6L of Penrite Vantage, 5L of Valvoline DuraBlend and 5L of Shell Helix HX7 all in 10W40 semi-syn with SN and A3/B4.
They are quite affordable (for Australia), I've picked them up at $20 to $25 for 5L on sale, and most carry a few Euro OEM spec's too, such as the Shell Helix HX7 below
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Specifications: API SN/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; JASO SG+; MB approval 229.3; VW 502 00/505 00; Renault RN0700, RN0710. Meets the requirements of Fiat 955535-G2
However, I do know that many cars in Australia are running on 10W40 Semi-Synthetic right now. Here it's the default bulk fill for many shops and garages, my local one included. They all seem to use a semi-synthetic 10W40 that is both API SN and ACEA A3/B4.
I assume it became so common because it was the one grade that worked for most applications. It was A3/B4 for the Euro cars, it was SN for the Japanese cars, and many local cars spec'd a 15W40 mineral - so it worked for these Holden's and Ford's too.
Met a guy with a 2005 Corolla with the 1ZZ-FE engine, he said the Aust. owners manual spec'd 10W40, and one of our first Castrol Magnatec grades was in 10W40, so it's a common oil around here.
In my personal oil stash, I have 6L of Penrite Vantage, 5L of Valvoline DuraBlend and 5L of Shell Helix HX7 all in 10W40 semi-syn with SN and A3/B4.
They are quite affordable (for Australia), I've picked them up at $20 to $25 for 5L on sale, and most carry a few Euro OEM spec's too, such as the Shell Helix HX7 below
Quote:
Specifications: API SN/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; JASO SG+; MB approval 229.3; VW 502 00/505 00; Renault RN0700, RN0710. Meets the requirements of Fiat 955535-G2
In days of old, we put that [CENSORED!] in EVERYTHING (unless we used 20W50)!
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
In days of old, we put that [CENSORED!] in EVERYTHING (unless we used 20W50)!
^^^ Very true!
In days of old, we put that [CENSORED!] in EVERYTHING (unless we used 20W50)!
^^^ Very true!
All of the local autozones have 20+ quarts for $2/qt!
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It was one of the early multi vis blends as mentioned in this picture:
Originally Posted By: 4WD
It was one of the early multi vis blends as mentioned in this picture:
BUt ... but ...
That water oil 20 grade was introduced in the 2000s as a EPA conspiracy.
It was one of the early multi vis blends as mentioned in this picture:
BUt ... but ...
That water oil 20 grade was introduced in the 2000s as a EPA conspiracy.
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Or the EPA was more stealth in the early 70's
Atleast in Spain 10W-40 is still probably the best selling oil, 99% of those are usually Synthetic blends.
The various mechanics i know use it in anything that is over 20-25 years old.
Most new cars spec 5W-30 or 5W-40 Synthetic oils, only recently have i started to see 0W-20 and 5W-20 on the shelves, and in small numbers.
The various mechanics i know use it in anything that is over 20-25 years old.
Most new cars spec 5W-30 or 5W-40 Synthetic oils, only recently have i started to see 0W-20 and 5W-20 on the shelves, and in small numbers.
In greece most most mechanics use 10w40 oils in many cars and the typical oil change interval is 3-5k miles. In older years the oil most used was 20w50. My father was using 10w40 in our honda jazz but when i started taking care of the car i switched to 5w30 or 5w40 synthetic..but i kept the low oci because the engine wasnt so clean inside. Not burning any oil though
My Mother has a 3 year old Suzuki Jimmny that specifies nearly every viscosity you could possibly think of! I do 6 monhtly oil changes on it, usually opt for a 10w40 throughout the summer and a more expensive synthetic 0w40 throughout the winter.
I buy Chevron Supreme 10w40 semi synthetic in bulk from Coscto as it goes in my Fathers LR Defender 300tdi all year round (although that might change), our lawnmowers and the Jimmny in the summer.
I buy Chevron Supreme 10w40 semi synthetic in bulk from Coscto as it goes in my Fathers LR Defender 300tdi all year round (although that might change), our lawnmowers and the Jimmny in the summer.
Do any of you older members remember 20w20?
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
Atleast in Spain 10W-40 is still probably the best selling oil, 99% of those are usually Synthetic blends.
The various mechanics i know use it in anything that is over 20-25 years old.
Most new cars spec 5W-30 or 5W-40 Synthetic oils, only recently have i started to see 0W-20 and 5W-20 on the shelves, and in small numbers.
also best selling in vehicles used in the Fast and Furious movies
Atleast in Spain 10W-40 is still probably the best selling oil, 99% of those are usually Synthetic blends.
The various mechanics i know use it in anything that is over 20-25 years old.
Most new cars spec 5W-30 or 5W-40 Synthetic oils, only recently have i started to see 0W-20 and 5W-20 on the shelves, and in small numbers.
also best selling in vehicles used in the Fast and Furious movies
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Do any of you older members remember 20w20?
I do, and saw an example on the shelf not terribly long ago. Wakefield Canada obviously made an example until fairly recently. Oddly enough, I never saw it around as a kid, though.
Do any of you older members remember 20w20?
I do, and saw an example on the shelf not terribly long ago. Wakefield Canada obviously made an example until fairly recently. Oddly enough, I never saw it around as a kid, though.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Do any of you older members remember 20w20?
I do, and saw an example on the shelf not terribly long ago. Wakefield Canada obviously made an example until fairly recently. Oddly enough, I never saw it around as a kid, though.
In my Capri's owners manual it has a chart like many old cars where it says from what temperature each viscosity is ok to use and 20W-20 does appear on the chart.
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Do any of you older members remember 20w20?
I do, and saw an example on the shelf not terribly long ago. Wakefield Canada obviously made an example until fairly recently. Oddly enough, I never saw it around as a kid, though.
In my Capri's owners manual it has a chart like many old cars where it says from what temperature each viscosity is ok to use and 20W-20 does appear on the chart.
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