10K on NextGen Conventional in 2005 J30 Accord?

[SwampSurvivor]

So, earlier this year I posted how I went to a Valvoline Instant Oil Change with a friend's accord. I didn't pay, of course, but the car was filled with Nextgen conventional.

At that time, the car had 85000 miles on it. The sticker put on the windshield was for 88000 miles.


The owner of this car does not check oil or transmission fluid ... or anything.

I happened to be looking at the car because it was "driving funny" ... aka really soft front tire.

I checked the oil and it was ... quite black and funny feeling. Looked at the sticker on the window, sure enough, the car has not had an oil change. Mileage on the car is 95000. I confirmed that the car had not had an oil change, and it has not.

My understanding is, that at least 1200 of the miles were pure highway.

Wonder if it has started to sludge yet? I would really like to pull a sample for UOA!

 

[donnyj08]

Its probably not sludging yet, but i bet its starting to varnish a bit. Tell him to change that oil!! that honda is still young!

 

[fdcg27]

A used oil analysis won't tell you much about sludge, but it will tell you a lot about the condition of the oil.
If the oil's been run too long, TBN will be very low, TAN (if you have that measured) will be high (although unless you find a VOA showing TAN you won't know how much it increased) and you may see oxidative thickening.
I personally wouldn't run Nextgen 10K, but it would be interesting to see a used oil analysis.
As a one time event, I doubt that this unintended extended OCI would cause any lasting harm.
A couple of changes at conservative intervals with any oil should clean up anything that needs cleaning.

 

[Azeem]

I'd be more concerned if it was low on oil than 10 k miles on quality conventional like Valvoline.Yes, it's time to change oil.

 

[SatinSilver]

Was the oil level low and has the oil been changed yet? I'd get it changed asap.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Its probably not sludging yet, but i bet its starting to varnish a bit. Tell him to change that oil!! that honda is still young!


This person is not big on maintenance at all. The Honda is young, yes and it's a very nice car. I suspect the car will suffer timing belt failure at some point.

Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Was the oil level low and has the oil been changed yet? I'd get it changed asap.


Not low. Still at the top of the dip stick! The engine appears to burn no oil. Very smooth. Typical Honda engine.

 

[SatinSilver]

Originally Posted By: Miller88
Not low. Still at the top of the dip stick! The engine appears to burn no oil. Very smooth. Typical Honda engine.


That's good. Make sure the #5 cylinder spark plug is torqued properly. There's been more than a few cases of spark plugs shooting out of that cylinder. Here's one case, an 07 but there's been a few 05's as well. I'd probably torque it once a year or so.

http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=125473

Maybe take it to the Honda dealer for the oil change. With a coupon if available. When taking it in, ask if they will check/tighten that plug as a courtesy.

 

[JR]

My brothers. last oil service had 39k on a blend of Pennzoil 5w20, spectro parafin mc 20w50. It has nextgen maxlife 5w20 and ocod has 10+k on this service. he has done oner 100k with less then a hand full of oil services. still smooth and tight. i have formula shell 5w20 and fram ultra for the next service. i should of picked up a stash of national brand menards oil, but i missed. the sale.

ken

p.s. the brothers ride is a 1998 chevy astro awd with vortec4.3. W/210k on the clock. still starts and runs like a new one. very. strong, durable , and forgiving motors.

oil and filters today are worlds better. then their predecessors. of years. ago. Todays engines, lubracants, fuel, and filters are providing more bang for the buck and also last longer.

 

[Flareside302]

We accidentally did this on our 09 Optima we had.. Couldn't afford the money to change the oil at 3, 5, 7, then finally changed at 10k miles.. Came out decent looking.. Obviously that doesn't mean anything..

But never never never will I do that again.. That was just dumb..

Only reason we did it was we were broke and couldn't spend the 25-30 bucks to do it

 

[zerosoma]

Please do a used oil analysis. This is a great time to see how well the NextGen actually holds up to an interval this long. People talk a lot about TBN retention - if the TBN is absolutely destroyed we'll know if the TBN only holds up to 7k or so, so we can figure about how long this oil is good for exactly. I don't think anyone is brave (or dumb) enough to do it on their own automobiles. So take advantage of your friend's lack of maintenance and contribute to the board in a big way!

You can get NAPA kits for around $13. That includes TBN and return shipping.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

I don't live in a place where I can drain it. Is it possible to suck it out of the dipstick tube?

 

[zerosoma]

Originally Posted By: Miller88
I don't live in a place where I can drain it. Is it possible to suck it out of the dipstick tube?


Get one of those cheap suction pumps, pennzoil makes a kit and I think you can find them. At wal mart, it's a little orange cylinder with black top and bottom, orange hoses out both ends. Get a tube from menards or a hardware store that fits into the one in the kit and down the dipstick hole. Drain it into a clean container or the sample bottle.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

I have two of them. Just not sure if there are baffles, etc keeping the tube from getting to the pan

 

[AlienBug]

If there were baffles to block the tune, they would also block the dipstick.