100 year old man outlook on oil.

[MBS500]

Originally Posted By: Dakota1820
And as far as dirty oil goes. I know people do not agree but my opinion is the longer its in the dirtier it gets so I think there is some validity to the dirty oil method.
tell it to diesel guys, their oil tuns black in 10 minutes.

 

[CharBaby]

My dad would be 100 years old this February. I wish I could still have conversations with him. We would talk for hours, mostly about cars and baseball.

 

[Oldasco]

Years ago when I was a high school kid I had an after school job working in a bakery. My boss asked me one day summertime when it was close to 100 degrees if I would go over to his over 90 year old father-in-law's house and mow his lawn. The son-in-law didn't want the old guy cutting the grass because he thought it was too hot out and he might have a stroke or something. When I got to the old guys house, he was under his all jacked up car taking his transmission out to work on it! The guy was getting around pretty good it looked to me. He was drinking a bottle of beer and started to offer me one, but said I was too young and he offered me a soda instead. Age has its privileges.

 

[widman]

I talked with a guy here when I first started selling oils about 16 years ago.

He was happy to see that someone was starting to bring in decent oil, since, in order to keep his 200 small engines from breaking down he changed oil daily in all of them.

 

[jamesonel]

The 100 year old man i spoke of has never spent 1 day in a hospital,never taken a pill and has never smoked or had a drink in his life.He reads the newspaper front to back everyday.He is over 6 ft tall and strong as can be.He has a small machine shop in his basement and helps me fix my fleet when something needs attention.Many moons ago i was a certified auto mechanic and i spent a few years in a machine shop so we get along good.He can tell you what grade a bolt is and its thread count and it,s size and purpose in about 2 seconds.You are right he has told me stories of cars he has had over 100 years,and military stories.This man has never said a bad word about anyone,never been critical of someones work or words spoken.Some of you here can really appreciate a true gentleman when you here of one.Always positive and never negative.And yes ever time i am with him i learn something new.
"The wealth of knowledge is pricless"

 

[demarpaint]

I'd love to chat with him, I bet he'd be extremely interesting to speak with. However I wouldn't want to be in the car with him while he's driving or anywhere near him while he's on the road. Sorry...

 

[Tdbo]

Great story and more power to him.
I'd say when you hit 100, you've earned the right to change your oil whenever you want.

 

[Oldasco]

Elderly drivers in Florida is a big problem. A lot of older folks who shouldn't be driving do.

I had a neighbor who was 90+ and finally gave up driving because of his poor eyesight and all and then let his wife start driving him around everywhere. One day she drove their car through the front of a department store and ended up with the car by the cash registers inside--they got their pictures in the newspaper and all that. No problem for them though, she simply stopped driving and surrendered her license...but, the 90+ year old husband got back in the saddle and started driving for them again!

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Oldasco
Elderly drivers in Florida is a big problem. A lot of older folks who shouldn't be driving do.

I had a neighbor who was 90+ and finally gave up driving because of his poor eyesight and all and then let his wife start driving him around everywhere. One day she drove their car through the front of a department store and ended up with the car by the cash registers inside--they got their pictures in the newspaper and all that. No problem for them though, she simply stopped driving and surrendered her license...but, the 90+ year old husband got back in the saddle and started driving for them again!


It is in NY too. One Saturday morning I was at my paint supplier, and his store is situated in a bad location. An elderly woman, about 90 from the Police report, stopped for a red light, then took off and drove right through the front window of the paint store. In order to accomplish this feat she had to cross 4 lanes of traffic, hop the curb, cross the parking lot, hop another side walk, and bash through the front of the paint store. She was in up to the back doors on a 4 door sedan. She told the Police not to tell her children she was driving. Good thing we saw her coming and got out of the way. What a mess.

 

[jamesonel]

Listen to this my friend only had 1 accident a young girl blew through a stop sign and totaled his car,he got out of the car and said oh well it was a good car,i will just have to get another one no big deal.i think my 100 year old friend gets a little wild sometimes and gets in his car and drops the hammer down about half way,cleans out the pipes you know.Thanks guys.

"Whatever the mind can concieve it can achive"

 

[Oldasco]

We get old guys getting in their cars in Florida all the time and hitting the hammer...the only problem is that they don't know where they're going, and when they finally get there, they forget how to get back to where they started from!

 

[coolbird101]

If only this 100 year old gentleman had the wisdom you have, lol . Can you explain how oil gets better with time, this is news to me. So your saying oil with 5,000 miles is in better condition than oil with 1,000 miles on it. Maybe you have misinterpeted a metal rise after an oil change as indicating the old oil was better than the new oil, this conclusion could easily be reached if you dont take wear averages over the life of the oil into consideration. Im not saying 3000 miles is not overkill because in most cases it is, but your painting a pretty broad stroke here. I have been doing extended oci for the last 25 years but im certainly not under the illusion that my oil is getting better with age like some fine wine.
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
Originally Posted By: johnachak
So when does frequent pm stop becoming a waste of resources? At the split second before the engine explodes from too long an oci? Apparently, anytime before that would be wasting resources.


When the manufacturer calls for 7500mi OCI's and you're changing it at 3000, that's wasteful. Since oil could become noticeably "dirty" at even 2000mi, which is where I could see some people would change it based on that assumption that "dark is dirty", is very wasteful. If you're using good oil that is still healthy to 10000 or 12500mi, you're starting to use oil more effectively (the manufacturer has a margin of caution, so with UOA's most people, here at least, know how far they can safely push their oil). Changing it according to the manufacturer is a solid baseline, if you can change it less frequently then that and have an oil that is well within its capability to handle the extended OCI, its being efficient and wise.

But your entire comment is ludicrous and ignorant. Oil gets better, testing shows that, proper preventative maintenance means you can go longer without it. Somehow you've equated my comment on changing your oil at proper intervals being less wasteful then overly frequent or recreational oil changes or feel-good assumptions that "dirty is bad and it always has to look clean to be working", to me somehow saying everyone should absolutely neglect engine maintenance and run nowhere on the side of caution and stress every single OCI to 20000mi or more; I never did, try reading next time.

 

[jamesonel]

Oldasco your right i have seen more old people launch there cars through shop windows than you can shake a stick at.Pharmacy windows,bank windows all kinds of windows.I hear of one somewhere almost every week.Thank you for the replies guys.

"The husaband says to the wife there is no more money in our chequing at the bank,the wife says that,s impossible i still have 3 blank cheques left"

 

[Spector]

All that's missing is a 10 year posting history on BITOG and then we'd HAVE to listen to him.



Ouch!!!

 

[jamesonel]

Demarpaint your story was outragious,i am still laughing.Talk about someone going through a obstical course to get where they are going.This is the stuff that i like,it puts a smile on your face,makes you laugh it,s all good.Laughter is great medicine, it is all postive.Negativity is all bad and creates too much stress.If someone has something negative to say and tries to ruin my day,i would prefer they stay away from me.It,s just verbal diarrhea.Keep the good stuff coming it,s great. Thank you.

 

[RiceCake]

Originally Posted By: coolbird101
If only this 100 year old gentleman had the wisdom you have, lol . Can you explain how oil gets better with time, this is news to me.


You're an [censored]. Oil does get better: technology improves, and has improved dramatically over the last 100 years. I'm not responding to this thread anymore. Seems there's no shortage of people here looking to plug their ears and say the dumbest thing possible so they can start something and look heroic to nobody.

 

[jamesonel]

Ricecake your statment saying that oil has improved dramatically over the last 100 years is true.And it will be better as the years go on i,m sure.When i am writing a post sometimes my thoughts come out different as i am typing,or i put it in the wrong context and it is interpeted diiferently.We are all trying to help each other here.Maybe just a misunderstanding.
"everythings good"

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: jamesonel
Listen to this my friend only had 1 accident a young girl blew through a stop sign and totaled his car,he got out of the car and said oh well it was a good car,i will just have to get another one no big deal.i think my 100 year old friend gets a little wild sometimes and gets in his car and drops the hammer down about half way,cleans out the pipes you know.Thanks guys.

"Whatever the mind can concieve it can achive"


This guy sounds a lot like my old German buddy. Strong as an ox, full of knowledge and sharp as a tack. He still drives and he's a GOOD driver. A lot better than many of the much younger people I know.

 

[coolbird101]

Name calling, thats nice in fact its so nice im guessing your looking at a little vacation from this site, I didnt call you names, sorry you took it as an attack,I was simply challenging you to support your claims, this could even be called a discussion. If I put a post out there that someone questions, I hope they would challenge it, I may learn something. In fact Ive been called out here a couple times and been corrected, didnt hurt my feelings at all. Dont take it personaly if someone doesent agree with you. I am always looking for more info, simply regurgitating the stuff you read on here from the people you perceive as the smartest does not always make it accurate.

"flame suit on"

 

[Quest]

The sheer deterioration as discussion progress on this posting is nothing short of "normal" on BITOG these days: namecalling, mudslinging, etc. People who resort to not listen will never learn/listen, afterall.

Maturity comes at a price and so is behaviour.

Q.